Topic: BAIKAL - WHAT IS GOING ON? - page 20. (Read 27844 times)

Thanks for all this info guys....I'm trying to find that sweet spot where a gpu is good for eth, xmr, zcash and maybe X11...I'm reading a lot of good things on rx 480's, now I need to decide on MSI red's, sapphire....4b or 8gb....lol....gotta love mining... oh, I should mention electricity is included in my rent, so consumption is not toooo much of a worry...

I concur - 1070's are the sweet spot for power/hash/cost efficiency today; with only one except.   AMD RX470/480 beat the 1070 for ETH/ETC ... 1070's win for pretty much every other GPU algo.

Mining4Bacon

I wouldn't use the 1080's but rather the 1070's... You can pull about 420 S/s per card for zcash and for a 6 card rig you could get the wattage down to about 1000 in total if you configure it properly. ROI on one of these rigs would be 6-8 months dependent upon price but at least you can purchase all of the parts anytime you wish unlike with Baikal right now.

 http://cryptomining-blog.com/8526-mining-performance-of-gtx-1080-ti-with-ccminer-2-0-rc2/

 So 7 of the GTX 1080 ti will pull close to 150 MH/s - but at 1750 watts JUST for the cards, figure close to 2KW for an entire single rig if you can get all 7 running on one rig.

 There's also the issue that the 1080 ti is ONLY available in founders edition (so far), at a significant premium on price, and VERY limited availability - and running the calculation for 7 or these on whattomine at the stated figures in the post show them LOSING MONEY if you have to pay more than 1c/kwh on your electric.


On the other hand, this is actually PROFITABLE up to about 10c/kwh electric - but nowhere near as profitable as mining ETH would be on those cards, much less something they're GOOD at like lyra2r2.

I will share my relatively new experience with Baikal.  I apparently got one of the last Mini's they released... ordered about 3.5 weeks ago and it's been up and running perfectly the past 2.5 weeks.  My ordering experience was very smooth... placed through their website, contacted via e-mail to get exact BTC amount due, paid that day (Monday) and got the Mini that Friday. After I realized how easy these things were to set up and run, I contacted them about 3 days asking to buy 2 more.  Got a response in a day saying that they were now out of Minis but could sell me a Giant for about $2,300.  I couldnt pull the trigger then but now kinda wishing i had cuz if nothing else, probably could have doubled or tripled my money by just selling it.

Anyway, since then, I have sent them about 4 email messages. They replied to the first 2 just saying they were still out stock.  I specifically asked about when they expected a new batch and what the process would be for pre-order/reserving, etc, but never got any reply to these questions.  To me, I totally get that they were caught off guard and simply cannot keep up with demand... i mean really, who could have predicted Dash up almost 10x in the less than 3 months?  But, I do think it's a bit weak that they either 1) don't have a strategy for the next batch's release or 2) have one but just don't want to share it.  I think they could score a lot of points if they just were able to provide SOME information.

Thank you for sharing

Like any good portfolio, you shouldn't have all your eggs in one basket, currently my farm is split as follows:  108Th SHA265, 9.15Gh X11, 36 x 1070GTX's

w/cryptocoin holdings, 35% BTC, 40% ETH, 25% other ALTs

I recommend everyone diversity, this is no different than investing in stocks, precious metals, real estate, etc.  Be smart, diversity and HODL!

Mining4Bacon

when dash eventally dumps bikal will come crying back
to the customers they are spurning now and offer u dusty used
miners for full price lool

always happens , never fails asic miners love to bite the hand that feeds them
ill atick to gpu mining thank you, but ill have my popcord ready

Ya that is ridiculous and if the price of Dash were to decrease then this would be an insane buy. But on the other hand MUE is about twice as profitable with the push they have made recently.

WHOA!  Will be interesting to see what they actually sell for...

$2499 for a mini 150Mh! 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baikal-X11-150M-miner-compatible-with-x13-x14-x15-Quark-Qubit-baikal-miner-/201861773668?hash=item2effe63964:g:xHgAAOSwWxNY0Y9h


Here is another 150Mh on ebay in UK listed for $1800
http://www.ebay.com/itm/232275665826?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Mining4Bacon

To add to that I think that Ethereum and Zcash are your best bets right now for GPU mining. I would used RX 480's for Ethereum and probably GTX 1070's for Zcash mining.

Thank you for sharing!!

since there is no availability for this, it can be good to consider selling them for more than the original price, like 5 btc, i was thinking about this possibility after all they are making nearly 0.03 per day...

Absolutely right...
What would everyone else do?! Of course printing money instead of selling the gear that is left!
(that is the reason why some people are so upset btw.. because THEY aren´t printing right now..)

Would be nice if they would tell us something like "next batch not before X"... but as TracerX said.. they don´t have to.

i think we dream too much, be realistic a product who can generate 30$/days : we can buy it again if dash go down one day.

Hi, the question is if the new batch will be sold one/two pieces for customer or not, if will be satisfied few large customers or many little customers.

W_M

As it is approprate... the small 5 unit oder from piniedea was cancelled on a group buy (hmmmmmm me thinks it interesting all equip goes 'poof')


It is everywhere!

AS to this relates to baikal

Anyway what I think is going on is below.....(KNC took customers money..mined the Neptunes 6 plus month...were sued in Sweden and won the case! as an example)

Lol

This is what Avalon, butterfly labs, KNC miner, Spondolies all did back in the day. Yank a batch and
Mine them....while singing 🎤 "we're in the money". We are so SOTL on X11 miners.

Again if if that is NOT the case...just got on the baikal site....they allow you to order 100 at a pop or moere on the cart page
thus .even if they do come out with some without some kind  of 'que' with folk in line...or just because the baikal group buy
thread gets a heads up for mentioning them before they were 'famous'

I don't really see an angle a person could get these....anywhere but in China ..without some kinda pre-order list or some other angle
they will be gone probably within an hour (assuming anyone knew the hour to order)

ah well....not looking good ...especially if they open the baikal sale page again and whales can play with 100 a pop orders ..bingo / banko

So unless a group buy can be swung...I don't see how the heck we can get any (your our only hope obi wan)

You could build a 5-6 GPU system that would get you 150mh/s mining on the Ethereum network. X11 isn't as efficient on GPU as Digger Hashimoto, you'd be much better off mining ETH and converting through NH an exchange to get your Dash. Keep in mind that system may run ~1200w, a far cry from Baikal's amazing wattage.

Thx for reply...I was just trying to get a rough idea...would I need 10 of the higher end gpu's to achieve 150 mg/h. I know it likely sounds nuts what I'm asking...nevertheless I'm searching and reading as I'm posting this.

I did talk to them tonight and although I wasn't really too satisfied with the answers I got I have a slightly better indication of what is going on now. I believe, based on me pressing him pretty hard, that there will be a new batch that is available for us to purchase. That being said don't quote me on that since he was still rather vague. He said that they literally cannot keep up with the demand for the units due to the explosion of the price of Dash. As far as building a GPU rig and comparing it to the Baikal Mini.... That is like comparing apples to oranges. Different algorithms and currencies hash at drastically different rates and also GPU rigs are far more difficult than the plug and play nature of ASICS.