Bankera/Spectrocoin paid shills bumping the thread 24/7 Creating a fake buzz !!! - page 4.

JohnnyBTC197

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So the user nutildah believes that showing pictures of people in jail is a productive way of warning people of scams.
To me it looks like spreading FUD in a rude and probably illegal way. The official chat is not censored and plenty of criticism from the community can be found there. That is okay because the project has its flaws (like every other project) but it is definitely no scam as was proven many time in the Bankera thread. Although mosprognoz was posting such pictures not only once. So why should we all come here now? Because we are tired of all the refuted FUD against the project which we believe and invested in.

mosprognoz

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huup

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Quote from: nutildah on August 11, 2019, 05:31:44 AM

Seems like all they've done is smear mosprognoz.

nutildah

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Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 05:21:16 AM

All of those community members can be seen active and posting for years in the official chat (Chat.bankera.com).

Completely irrelevant.

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 05:21:16 AM

BTCtalk was never the main communication chanel for the community (I now see why...).

Right, this isn't your website, so you can't censor anything negative about your project here.

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 05:21:16 AM

Some users started delivering facts in here and many of the community joined them.

Seems like all they've done is smear mosprognoz.

Quote from: JohnnyBTC197 on August 11, 2019, 05:21:16 AM

Why should they start now with it and not months ago? Can you deliver some/any reasoning?

Sure, you know the answer already, but its because mosprognoz poked Bankera with this comment:

Quote from: mosprognoz on August 04, 2019, 10:47:18 PM

Quote from: Milky86 on August 04, 2019, 12:48:32 PM

Quote from: leoprince on August 04, 2019, 12:11:12 PM

SCAM. These people have to go to jail

When you say slowly do you mean in a couple of years or 5-10 years?

No dude, 1 year will be enough. Very soon we will see Mr. ~~Karalevičius~~ Scamralevičius and co behind bars.

Check this post to know more about bankera scammers. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52076211

Or maybe it was his next comment, or maybe both:

Quote from: mosprognoz on August 05, 2019, 04:31:00 AM

Quote from: john_jones on August 05, 2019, 03:55:44 AM

They already have Spectrocoin, Bankera Exchange, and Bankera loans.

All of them are SCAMS !!!! Nobody is using spectrocoin any more because of ridiculous fees and crappy service. There are hundreds of other much more better similar services. Bankera exchange is just a useless website which is showing around $45 trading volume daily.... Nobody is using their shitty loans because there are illegal.Also there are already many companies that are offering legitimate and much more cheaper crypto loans. All this shit was made just to convince investors that bankera is doing something . In the fact they did absolutely nothing, but stealing the astronomical amount of money collected during their ICO. OK let me guess.. How much does it cost to launch a crypto exchange? Not more than 20 BTC for sure. How much does it cost to launch an online crypto lending platform? Not more that 10 BTC for sure. Now lets calculate....

ICO collected funds = 120 000 000 USD

Spent amount for Exchange and Loan service = NOT MORE THAT 30 BTC = 300 000 USD !!!

Stolen amount = 119 700 000

Over a dozen accounts woke up the next day to all begin a coordinated attack on him. You have very little knowledge of how the trust system actually works, because if you did, you wouldn't have bothered all leaving negative trust for him and positive trust for yourselves, because its meaningless to default users. Same thing for your flags. However, my trust for you isn't meaningless, and neither is my flag support.

huup

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: mosprognoz on August 10, 2019, 10:50:36 PM

Quote from: JimmySlander on August 10, 2019, 03:12:08 PM

And if we decided to come back after a long time of inactivity that is not breaking an rule neither we have to live all day here as he does.

Yes sure, 8 or 9 profiles suddenly woke up to defend the project. Some of them after an year of inactivity, some of them after half an year of inactivity and some of them after 5 years of inactivity. And all of them suddenly decided to change emails and passwords. And all of them started posting on the same day and continued 24/7 ... Great bankera community...

Mate we have something to lose at Bankera (OUR INVESTMENT). If we saw you have good proof that they are scam, we would have sold our tokens and supported your claims. However, we had proof (verifiable online) that they are not a scam. Let's talk in a calm way, okay? We do not need any reason to come here and support the project. We have one and only one good reason, most of us have been involved in it since late 2017 (since the pre-ICO) and we are not scammed so we just came to stop the FUD that isn't based on actual proofs. There is nothing that can stop us because our hard earned money is invested in the project! We are not spreading fake claims. All of our claims are linked to proofs online about Bankera. We came here to argue in goodwill against the scam accusations and that's what we have done.
You may actually have called actual scams and that's good work! But as far as we have actual proofs and documents proving the company is registered in EEA countries and holds licenses, we cannot let those scam accusations be spread without proof. If you had proof, we would not be able to argue at all. It is our money again! You for sure know how big of factor that is, don't you? The same as we want our investment to pay off (which it is paying off each week getting a revenue just for holding BNK), the same as we would GLADLY run away if it is a scam.

Second that!
He is scamming us out of our money with his constant slandering and that needs to stop!

huup

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Quote from: nutildah on August 11, 2019, 05:17:46 AM

What a pretty little merit network:

EUH YEAH!
nothing to hide here. Off course we are giving merrit to each other. Just like you guys are doing, LOL

And off course that's what you have found. Becuase that's how you guys work. No wonder that's the first thing you started looking for. But we are catching up and learning to play the same game.

But how about getting the playing field on the same level?
We all know how the founders are and the companies. Let's us know who Mosprognoz is?

JohnnyBTC197

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All of those community members can be seen active and posting for years
in the official chat (Chat.bankera.com). BTCtalk was never the main communication chanel
for the community (I now see why...). Therefore many accounts were not used for quite some time.
Some users started delivering facts in here and many of the community joined them. Why should someone buy
accounts that have only jr. member or lower rank or not even that (you probably buy only high rank profiles, aren’t you? Lips sealed

) That makes no sense. Why should they start now with it and not months ago? Can you deliver some/any reasoning?

nutildah

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What a pretty little merit network:

huup

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Quote from: mosprognoz on August 11, 2019, 05:03:19 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

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Who is Mosprognos?

You are here for the truth , right?
So let's get the truth out! who is Mosprognoz?

mosprognoz

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Quote from: ?? on ??

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Dude, nobody cares about your bullshit here. Look at your profile. All of you have almost same profiles. Woke up, with changed emails and passwords. That is the clear sign that account was hacked or bought. I am tired of you dude. Bye and take care.

huup

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Quote from: nutildah on August 11, 2019, 03:23:33 AM

All I can see here is mosprognoz is great at sussing out scam projects or at least projects with scammy features. By creating such a stir here all you are doing is assuring that many more critical eyes will be taking a look at Bankera shortly. You better hope all your shit is in order over there because you just woke up the beast.

Well Let's face it. Untill today there wasn't one single piece off evidence presented. becides hundreds of inults scam accusations NOTHING was found.

What we can see on the other hand. Is that our dear mister Mosprognoz is hiding behind an alter ego. Why doesn't he tell who he is? If he is only helping us all there wouldn't be a problem to know who he really is right?
Let's get the playing field on that same level that YOU GUYS want.
Who is the mysterious Mosprognoz? We all know whi Bankera is and their founders.

JimmySlander

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Quote from: nutildah on August 11, 2019, 04:15:11 AM

Apparently there have been unresolved scam accusations against Bankera dating back to February 2017. Just a reminder for everybody on why Bankera is a scam:

Their token has done nothing but plummet in value since December. You'd have to be a madman to get involved with this project now.

Glad to see we are no more Bankera paid shillers but that he problem for you is an invented scam accusation (By your multiaccount group), so just to remind the readers, if a company is a scam what do you think that would happen if this same company faced the Central Lithuanian Bank (LCB) in a court? Please take into account that Lithuania is an European country and for it, the LCB is supervised by the European Central Bank, so what do you think that a "supposed scam company mounted by two very known scammer who stolen 200 BTC from users" will face in a gouvernment court against the LCB ?

Well nothing, not even a suspecious acam activity as it is a regulated company and works with AML, this is the information, the reality, the real world, not some...forum member active 24/7/365 to try to get money from fudding:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52110407

Quote from: Scroogge on August 09, 2019, 08:44:32 AM

Not to forget that we have real Information here also:

Regarding all the story related to UAB Pervesk, Spectrocoin, Lithuanian Bank and FNTT, long story short:

1) Lithuanian Bank has checked UAB Pervesk (partnership with Bankera, belongs to the same owners, has an Electronic Mony license in Lithuania with a right to operate in all European Union Member States), FNTT (lit. - Finansinių Nusikaltimų Tyrimo Tarnyba - special Lithuanian criminal investigation body for the investigation of the financial crimes and all related) also participated in this audit.

use google translate (Verslo Žinios in Lithuania is the same as Financial Times for the rest of the world - the most credible resource):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2018/09/21/mokejimu-istaigai-ir-jos-vadovui--12-mln-eur-baudu

2) all the story is about KYC regulations - Know Your Client it is connected to AML (Anti Money Laundering), policies the Finantial institutions (UAB Pervesk in this case) has to implement to prevent crimes, basically to collect a relevant data from your Clients related to the source of the money. This audit had nothing to do with a scam or something like that!!!!!

3) One more time - the story with fines and FNTT is only related to KYC procedures!! Only!!!

4) Vilnius regional administrative court has lifted All the fines from UAB Pervesk and it`s CEO!!

read an 12-06-2019 article about that in Verslo Žinios (google translate will help):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2019/06/12/teismas-panaikino-baudas-bankeros-ikurejui-ir-susijusiai-imonei

and our Lithuanian second biggest news website 15min:
https://www.15min.lt/verslas/naujiena/bendroves/teismas-panaikino-pervesk-ir-jos-vadovui-skirtas-baudas-663-1158840

5) AND FINALLY - LITHUANIAN CENTRAL BANK HAS ANNOUNCED ITSELF THAT on 25-01-2019 IT HAS LIFTED ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND UAB PERVESK HAS NO MORE KYC ISSUES!!!!
READ OFFICIAL LITHUANIAN BANK`S STATEMENT ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!

https://www.lb.lt/lt/naujienos/lietuvos-banko-valdybos-nutarimai-140

Second section of the announcement, google translate will help to translate from Lithuanian.

Believe only official-governmental resources!!!! not some BS some haters are spreading here!!!

Enjoy your day!

nutildah

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Apparently there have been unresolved scam accusations against Bankera dating back to February 2017. Just a reminder for everybody on why Bankera is a scam:

Quote from: Alert guy on August 27, 2017, 04:45:43 AM

How they Bankera is a Scam:
Bankera is Founded by the two scam artist Vytautas Karalevičius & Mantas Mockevičius who has proved to scam many members with 150 BTC+

Bankera Scam ANN thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbankera-building-the-bank-for-the-blockchain-era-2091093
Bankera ICo introducer Scammer's Profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bankera-1101537
Scam Website: www.bankera.com

Note: I made a string operation and asked them for money to keep things quite and to see if they really aware of it and yes they were , after hooking on some result they banned me on slack.

Unresolve Scam allegation against Spectrocoin:

1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-scam-spectrocoincom-stay-away-from-spectrocoin-shady-company-1515839
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/spectrocoincom-imitated-a-transfer-of-64-btc-then-removed-24-btc-more-1586595
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-by-spectrocoin-of-100-btc-1669877

Some details about the Scammers:

Vytautas Karalevičius:

Mantas Mockevičius

He is the Main Culprit behind the scams, i am currently accumulating major Info against him, and i have do contacted the previous victim of spectrocoin to take legal action against : Mantas Mockevičius

The bitcointalk profile of te CEO is already red and needs more red feedbacks: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vytautask-317543

More Information about these two scammers coming soon, A class action will be taken soon.

Stay Tuned.

I would like to see how community responds to it.

Their token has done nothing but plummet in value since December. You'd have to be a madman to get involved with this project now.

pliuhkam

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syndicate strikes back

JimmySlander

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Hi everybody, just while you read consider and who it might concern this Legendary account (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nutildah-317618) has been offered for sale since 2016 for 0.3BTC you can check here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/not-for-sale-decided-to-keep-it-a-long-time-ago-you-fucks-1622642

And we already said, we all are real distinct and unique Bankera Community investors, you can all find us at Chat.Bankera.com and see we have been posting almost with the same nickname since the beggining of ICO, We have nothing to hide, no other aim than to expose scammer and pure fudder who uses his permament presence in here to bash Bankera and ask for money

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Quote from: huup on August 10, 2019, 03:24:16 PM

All I can see here is mosprognoz is great at sussing out scam projects or at least projects with scammy features. By creating such a stir here all you are doing is assuring that many more critical eyes will be taking a look at Bankera shortly. You better hope all your shit is in order over there because you just woke up the beast.

JohnnyBTC197

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You can check the official Bankera community Chat (Chat.bankera.com) where you can see
the „paid shills“ posting continously for years under the same nicknames as here. A member suggested
there that we should come here to deliver facts and do something against the unjustified accusations.
So some members came here. Why don’t you focus on the facts we delivered?

mosprognoz

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Quote from: JimmySlander on August 10, 2019, 03:12:08 PM

And if we decided to come back after a long time of inactivity that is not breaking an rule neither we have to live all day here as he does.

Yes sure, 8 or 9 profiles suddenly woke up to defend the project. Some of them after an year of inactivity, some of them after half an year of inactivity and some of them after 5 years of inactivity. And all of them suddenly decided to change emails and passwords. And all of them started posting on the same day and continued 24/7 ... Great bankera community...

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Quote from: huup on August 10, 2019, 03:24:16 PM

mosprognoz his scam accusations to make money from projects

here is what another project wrote:

Scammer. Multi Account: kruglikov, mosprognoz, atenolol, gorbal. Wanted to create a scam coin, when we rejected, they sent bad feed back. here is what he/she wanted: You gonna do the fork and we will split the premine 10% 50/50. It is a wonderful possibility to make couple of million dollars in 1 week. I want to do something similar to litecoin cash, where the dudes dumped premine for 5 dollars within the first 3 days and milked 3 000 000 dollars out of that. That might look as a scam but WHO CARES. If you are interested open the telegram account and lets start making EASY MONEY.

these are the projects mosprognoz is trying to harm with his partners in crime:

Payeercoin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52108283

Deeponion
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51958593

bleuhill mining (watch how conviently use Nutildah is also active there! does anyone else see a patern?)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51958707

Humanityone.io
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51252141

minexpay.com / Minexcoin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50876390

Yobit
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50681950

coudbet
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49822964

Yanubuks
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49816655

Regalcoin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39373462

worldcore
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39204775

Simplex
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37116748

firelotto
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32444599

Robert Matuk
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32327917

lendconnect
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31328241

Monetha
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30645158

BEAT
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29996372

Phoneum
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28691167

ETHconnect
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28428273

AETERNITY
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21688109

etc etc etc

Their method is always the same. they ask for money from the project or some other shady thing like the fork and if a project refuses the scam accusations start.

I attacked all that projects mentioned above.... All of them are well known scams. Regalcoin - Ponzi Ethconnect - The clone of bitconnect. Yobit - Scam exchange Lendconnect - Ponzi scam Humanityone - plagiarized whitepaper Deeponion - Biggest airdrop scam Robert Matuk - Stolen identity Yanubuks - Fake team Payeercoin - Plagiarism & Fake Team Blue Hill Mining - Plagiarized Whitepaper MinexPay - Fake crypto debit cards e.t.c e.t.c. ........ Just follow the links

mosprognoz

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Now that scammers are trying to convince people that profiles of mosprognoz, blurryeyed and nutildah are operated by same person....

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