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That's pretty much what I said, after he releases something substantial and people are clearly using it, I will be glad to add him back as mod. Personally, I don't really care about the price, I just like shitposting Tongue I honestly don't ever really consider myself part of the community, maybe I should just leave boolberry in charge of subreddit. I think maybe I inherited it from clintar a long time ago...maybe.

Yeah, you are all about "shitposting", this is what you do best and it works. CZ is weak for letting such people take community stewardship on Boolberry.
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That's pretty much what I said, after he releases something substantial and people are clearly using it, I will be glad to add him back as mod. Personally, I don't really care about the price, I just like shitposting Tongue I honestly don't ever really consider myself part of the community, maybe I should just leave boolberry in charge of subreddit. I think maybe I inherited it from clintar a long time ago...maybe.

Here are some stats about who posts the most in this thread:
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Total number of posts:                    7329
Total number of unique posters:            740
Number of posts by legendary members:     1398
Number of posts by hero members:          2057
Number of posts by senior members:        1706
Number of posts by full members:           909
Number of posts by member members:         731
Number of posts by junior members:         271
Number of posts by newbie members:         257
Number of posts by brand new members:        0

And the top 25 all time posters:
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Username                       number of posts           user class              
crypto_zoidberg                            582           Hero Member                        
btc-mike                                   186           Hero Member                        
shojayxt                                   171           Legendary                          
windjc                                     155           Legendary                          
jl777                                      154           Hero Member                        
dga                                        148           Sr. Member                        
damashup                                   144           Sr. Member                        
smooth                                     143           Legendary                          
33zer0w0lf                                 131           Full Member                        
sonoIO                                     127           Full Member                        
jwinterm                                   125           Legendary                          
clintar                                    100           Full Member                        
sussex                                      99           Sr. Member                        
otila                                       98           Sr. Member                        
surfer43                                    97           Sr. Member                        
iCEBREAKER                                  95           Legendary                          
jd1959                                      92           Sr. Member                        
boolberry                                   92           Sr. Member                        
hornyPo                                     91           Member                            
tifozi                                      89           Hero Member                        
cubydu                                      85           Sr. Member                        
darlidada                                   84           Hero Member                        
slapper                                     80           Hero Member                        
Anotheranonlol                              76           Hero Member                        
maxcan                                      71           Full Member  

I think you can see why zoidberg and shojayxt came to my mind when thinking of the "community".
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I've invested in around 15 ICOs over the last 3 years. I've made a profit in EVERYONE. The reason - I do my homework.
And I feel like you were heavily involved in supernet, which sorry, but I still think is a scam. But, like you said, you're not involved and you didn't endorse the blockitician.

Thank you for your apology.

Re: scams, I define scam as an premeditated attempt to outright fraud people. Its about intention. If a project gets delayed or changes paths or modifies itself, or even has poor judgement, that doesn't make it a scam.

The word scam is used as a throw away word by anybody on this forum that has a beef with anything else. Id like to see us expand our vocabulary.

Supernet has had some failings no doubt.  But they also could still have successes.  The jury is still out and that team is still working 15 hours a day on their projects.  I am not nor was I ever heavily involved with my time effort or energy in that project.  If I posted about it, it was because I had friends in the community.
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The only thing this thread has done in the past 24hrs is put people off Boolberry, too many ego's...

Can we get back to letting 1block do as he has been doing which is work on a project that was abandoned, if at some point CZ decides to come back and work on the project all well n good.

jwinterm you said "When I think of the "boolberry community", some names that come to mind are zoidberg, shojayxt, clintar, boolberry, and windjc. Zoidberg hasn't been involved for over a year, shojayxt from what i can see hasn't either, clintar is on the boolberry  rune thread and running 1blocks, Boolberry is just back on the scene and has spoken for himself and windjc has just stated he is no longer to be considered part of the community. So i don't understand how you can take such a stance against 1block, maybe you should just give him some time and let him prove himself.

I'm here for the good of the coin and hopefully help build a stronger community around it, all this negativity is just putting people off, just take a look at the market price today, it shows! Do you code maybe you can help? I wish i could as i would certainly give it my time. 

 
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But please don't quote me as "community" and please don't disparage me for no good reason. It only reflects poorly on yourself. I am happy to get to know you better to perhaps correct opinions you have for whatever reasons you have them.


Sorry, I misremembered. I just looked through other thread first few pages and it certainly doesn't seem like you endorsed him. I don't mean to disparage you, just that you seem to get involved in things to turn a profit in BTC or dollar terms, such as this recent quote of yours:
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I've invested in around 15 ICOs over the last 3 years. I've made a profit in EVERYONE. The reason - I do my homework.
And I feel like you were heavily involved in supernet, which sorry, but I still think is a scam. So, I wouldn't necessarily trust your judgment about who should lead a project. But, like you said, you're not involved and you didn't endorse the blockitician.
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Sorry, I said I was not going to interfere, but one more post.

... let it sync with the blockchain, but with simplewallet ...

Finally somebody gives an intelligent response.

I want to create a wallet without having downloaded the blockchain, is it possible? Please don't say yes unless you've done it.

Thanks for at least mentioning the next logical step in my question, downloading the blockchain, instead of giving an empty robot answer like all previous responses.

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My basic comment "nobody discussing..." referred more to something else.

With pesetacoin, for example, there has been a major warning in one browser, and there have been pages and pages spent discussing it.

Why? Because they want the coin to be user friendly. I don't understand, any person should be puzzled, by boolberry's seeming deliberate lack of attention to practical user issues like the security warning, while it caters to speculators.

Is it a currency? Is the purpose to create a currency? Or is the purpose only to attract speculators, and ignore real world issues? There is virtually no interest shown in using bbr as a currency. The entire focus is on speculative or related issues. Pick any coin at random on this website bct. Any coin at random, and you will see some discussion of how to encourage adoption. Bbr almost seems to exist in a cloistered world where the only users anticipated are those that are already here.

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Thanks for finally taking some mental step to consider my question about an offline wallet, running the question in your head to the point of the blockchain download, rather than politely brushing the question off or answering it dishonestly, as others did.

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with previous cn coins i speculated on i did download the blockchain, and that may be why i cannot create an offline wallet. is it necessary to have the blockchain to create an offline wallet with bbr?

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Sourceforge is more than likely throwing a false positive kinda like how AV software can get triggered by mining stuff.

Okay, that's fine. There are a lot of false positives, I get that.

Let me ask you to guess about how many absolute neophytes have been drawn to bbr in the very long time that warning has been up. the answer is close to zero.

Imagine if bitcoin had the warning that bbr has. Pages on reddit would be filled with comments about it, user adoption would drop precipitously. An army of people would be doing things to solve it.

But with bbr it isn't even noticed? wtf

keep posting, your user experiences are valued

you don't need the blockchain to generate an address, you can start simplewallet, create a new wallet file and it will give you both a 24 word mnemonic seed and a wallet file with a password that you set

to do this, on the command line start simplewallet with a new wallet file

simplewallet --generate-new-wallet testwallet

where "testwallet" is the name you choose for your wallet, and also double check that you are running boolberry's simplewallet (if you have other cryptonote coins installed already)

after you set your password and save your mnemonic phrase, type address within simplewallet to see your new valid address.
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One good thing has come out of this already, CZ has woken up from 2 years of hibernation  Smiley

Yes! I think all of us are happy when CZ returns. Despite the objections to his long absence and 1% dev tax (I still prefer a donation model and think switching to one could both raise confidence in BBR and actually lead to an increase development funding assuming CZ becomes active again) I think everyone here highly respects his development skills. We all hope his contributions will continue.

I appreciate that not everyone has the same vision for Boolberry and disagreements will happen.

Lets try to focus on productive tasks as best we can. Here are a few ideas:

Boolberry is on topic on Monero Stack Exchange. Lets ask more great questions and raise awareness about the unique BBR features:
https://twitter.com/BBRcurrency/status/788959838625669120
http://monero.stackexchange.com/search?q=boolberry

Is it time to renew the tail emission debate?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/should-boolberry-implement-a-tail-emission-1333906
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One good thing has come out of this already, CZ has woken up from 2 years of hibernation  Smiley
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Sorry, I said I was not going to interfere, but one more post.

... let it sync with the blockchain, but with simplewallet ...

Finally somebody gives an intelligent response.

I want to create a wallet without having downloaded the blockchain, is it possible? Please don't say yes unless you've done it.

Thanks for at least mentioning the next logical step in my question, downloading the blockchain, instead of giving an empty robot answer like all previous responses.

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My basic comment "nobody discussing..." referred more to something else.

With pesetacoin, for example, there has been a major warning in one browser, and there have been pages and pages spent discussing it.

Why? Because they want the coin to be user friendly. I don't understand, any person should be puzzled, by boolberry's seeming deliberate lack of attention to practical user issues like the security warning, while it caters to speculators.

Is it a currency? Is the purpose to create a currency? Or is the purpose only to attract speculators, and ignore real world issues? There is virtually no interest shown in using bbr as a currency. The entire focus is on speculative or related issues. Pick any coin at random on this website bct. Any coin at random, and you will see some discussion of how to encourage adoption. Bbr almost seems to exist in a cloistered world where the only users anticipated are those that are already here.

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Thanks for finally taking some mental step to consider my question about an offline wallet, running the question in your head to the point of the blockchain download, rather than politely brushing the question off or answering it dishonestly, as others did.

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with previous cn coins i speculated on i did download the blockchain, and that may be why i cannot create an offline wallet. is it necessary to have the blockchain to create an offline wallet with bbr?

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Sourceforge is more than likely throwing a false positive kinda like how AV software can get triggered by mining stuff.

Okay, that's fine. There are a lot of false positives, I get that.

Let me ask you to guess about how many absolute neophytes have been drawn to bbr in the very long time that warning has been up. the answer is close to zero.

Imagine if bitcoin had the warning that bbr has. Pages on reddit would be filled with comments about it, user adoption would drop precipitously. An army of people would be doing things to solve it.

But with bbr it isn't even noticed? wtf
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Here is my experience.

I go to the page you link and see

This file may contain malware and the automatic download has been disabled.

Are you really sure you want to download potential malware? Here's the direct link.


I'm not really sure I want to download potential malware, since I don't get that warning with any other coin, but okay, I download it.

Then I put it on a computer and it gives a "connecting" symbol endlessly, presumably refusing to do anything unless I let it connect to a network, unlike any other coin. Not good.

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I'm sure you must know that people create offline wallets with cryptocurrencies? i can do that with any currency, but not boolberry? Why?
Sourceforge is more than likely throwing a false positive kinda like how AV software can get triggered by mining stuff.
legendary
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OK, maybe I misused the white paper term in place of roadmap or whatever you want to call it. That's what I suggested in the reddit thread, re: consensus. Let me know when more that 50% of the clients on the network and 50% of blocks generated are coming from your version, and I'll gladly give you full control of subreddit again. You're free to post in the meantime, just not sticky your roadmap and change the links in the sidebar.

Thanks, well I'd like to collaborate and I'm not trying to fork the network so users can run any client they want. It is just you and boolberry moderating the subreddit (there isn't much activity there regardless, even over the past few months). I think the community would like a steward of that subreddit that is committed to this project


And I think your commitment to this project is in serious doubt. When I think of the "boolberry community", some names that come to mind are zoidberg, shojayxt, clintar, boolberry, and windjc. You seem to have done a pretty good job of alienating zoidberg, shojayxt, and boolberry, I'm not sure about clintar's feelings, and I don't have have a favorable impression of windjc, so his endorsement of you is actually a negative in my mind.

Like I said, you're free to post in the subreddit and increase activity there, or start your own subreddit, or petition the admins to have me removed as mod, but at this point you've delivered nothing except a meme paper and antagonized the most prominent contributors to the project (zoidberg has done nearly all/all the coding and shojayxt is the only person I'm aware that has ever produced a boolberry-only service), so I think it's only right to remove you as mod from /r/boolberry. PM me when something changes if you're interested in being mod again.

Can we be clear, please, open and transparent?

I have publicly said that I own BBR. I bought it years ago. At the time I loved the concept of the project. I was asked by CZ to help with rebranding because someone recommended me to him because of my experience in that area.  I like CZ. But I found him impossible to work with. Everything I proposed publicly in the rebrand attempt came straight from CZ, because working with CZ, in my experience means you have to A) agree with him or B) leave. So I tried to compromise and I tried to help carry out his vision. In retrospect I should have left as soon as I realized that I couldn't bring anything of value in that kind of work relationship.

Because CZ has been so absent that in two years he cant spend 30 seconds to make an edit, I am still listed as Marketing Coordinator on this OP. And so people still think I am an active member here. I haven't been for a long time, because there is nothing I can add and I am happily working on much larger projects now. I am very happy.

You have some issue with me. You have made no effort to speak to me directly. You have never made an effort to get to know me.

Yet you say I "endorsed" the new dev team? Please don't lie about me. I never did anything of the sort. Yes, I am an optimistic person by nature. I am not prone to paranoia or conspiracy. And if someone asked my help I will lend it if I can. I do believe in the power of competition, so I welcome that in general and I welcome that for BBR.

But please don't quote me as "community" and please don't disparage me for no good reason. It only reflects poorly on yourself. I am happy to get to know you better to perhaps correct opinions you have for whatever reasons you have them.

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I'm sure you must know that people create offline wallets with cryptocurrencies? i can do that with any currency, but not boolberry? Why?

no-ice-please, I am familiar with your comments from the huntercoin thread, and I appreciate your user/non-crypto person perspective on things. If you want to create a cold wallet, just generate an address with simplewallet, and then send there; you don't need to sync or anything.

I'm not going to push and push.

1) Download the wallet from the link.

2) Put it on a usb.

3) Then put it on an offline computer.

Opening the main program it says "connecting" forever. Clicking on simplewallet in the program file, it does not generate an address. Back when Qcn was on bittrex or polo I created wallets with simpleminer, but with boolberry it does not work. Long ago when aeon was cheap I created wallets with it. I have tried many times. Boolberry is the only coin, out of many, that I have never been able to create an offline wallet with. I've tried on several computers, several downloads, etc.

I'll drop it but I am baffled that there is no mention in  the thread of this issue, nor of the "Are you really sure you want to download potential malware?" issue.

I have some boolberry and hope the price goes up but I won't interfere anymore.



What OS? Nobody is talking about it because nobody is experiencing that problem and talking about it

If the GUI isn't working for you, you can use boolberry from the command line just like other cryptonote clients. You launch boold, let it sync with the blockchain, but with simplewallet you need to also designate a new wallet file with the --generate-new-wallet command

maybe thats the answer you were looking for
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I'm sure you must know that people create offline wallets with cryptocurrencies? i can do that with any currency, but not boolberry? Why?

no-ice-please, I am familiar with your comments from the huntercoin thread, and I appreciate your user/non-crypto person perspective on things. If you want to create a cold wallet, just generate an address with simplewallet, and then send there; you don't need to sync or anything.

I'm not going to push and push.

1) Download the wallet from the link.

2) Put it on a usb.

3) Then put it on an offline computer.

Opening the main program it says "connecting" forever. Clicking on simplewallet in the program file, it does not generate an address. Back when Qcn was on bittrex or polo I created wallets with simpleminer, but with boolberry it does not work. Long ago when aeon was cheap I created wallets with it. I have tried many times. Boolberry is the only coin, out of many, that I have never been able to create an offline wallet with. I've tried on several computers, several downloads, etc.

I'll drop it but I am baffled that there is no mention in  the thread of this issue, nor of the "Are you really sure you want to download potential malware?" issue.

I have some boolberry and hope the price goes up but I won't interfere anymore.

legendary
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I'm sure you must know that people create offline wallets with cryptocurrencies? i can do that with any currency, but not boolberry? Why?

no-ice-please, I am familiar with your comments from the huntercoin thread, and I appreciate your user/non-crypto person perspective on things. If you want to create a cold wallet, just generate an address with simplewallet, and then send there; you don't need to sync or anything.
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Here is my experience.

I go to the page you link and see

This file may contain malware and the automatic download has been disabled.

Are you really sure you want to download potential malware? Here's the direct link.


I'm not really sure I want to download potential malware, since I don't get that warning with any other coin, but okay, I download it.

Then I put it on a computer and it gives a "connecting" symbol endlessly, presumably refusing to do anything unless I let it connect to a network, unlike any other coin. Not good.

add
I'm sure you must know that people create offline wallets with cryptocurrencies? i can do that with any currency, but not boolberry? Why?
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OK, maybe I misused the white paper term in place of roadmap or whatever you want to call it. That's what I suggested in the reddit thread, re: consensus. Let me know when more that 50% of the clients on the network and 50% of blocks generated are coming from your version, and I'll gladly give you full control of subreddit again. You're free to post in the meantime, just not sticky your roadmap and change the links in the sidebar.

Thanks, well I'd like to collaborate and I'm not trying to fork the network so users can run any client they want. It is just you and boolberry moderating the subreddit (there isn't much activity there regardless, even over the past few months). I think the community would like a steward of that subreddit that is committed to this project


1blockologist,

Stop, man. Just... stop. These endless veiled power plays make it obvious that you don't have BBRs long-term interest at stake. Everybody smells it. We're not idiots. All you're doing is making yourself look bad. Maybe you're still holding a ton of BBR and you need the "vision" to stay alive. Maybe there's some other valid rationale. I don't know.

In fact, I don't know you at all, as a real person, so what I say next is going to be a generalization only based on how you've communicated online: your words have started to sound kind of sad. Like "I wonder how much this guy hates himself" kind of sad. Man, life is bigger than this! You're obviously a very talented guy. It takes a lot of creativity and grit and courage to come as far as you did. But the music has stopped.

You kind of sound like someone who lost their center. Maybe you need to go get in touch with yourself, starting with a good nights sleep. And afterward, perhaps a humble bowl of peyote and a solo trek in the Nevada desert. Whatever you need to get back what you used to have, and now struggle to feel. I took a month to hike some monastic trails in Montserrat one time. That did the trick for me.

Whatever the case is, I hope you find it, and rediscover that thing you're looking for. I wish future work for you that both makes you feel alive and earns people's applause.

Best
Eric
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I'm on drugs, what's your excuse?
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Welll said enuf of the BOOLshit.
You should join the slack...

I don't know anything about tech and have no interest in the mechanics, but how can there be so many hours put into slack when a wallet, a basic wallet that even the worst coins has, is not simply downloadable without warnings, and if you download it you cannot even create a wallet unless you have a degree in figuring out confusing wallets? 

Have you used

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/boolberry/files/bbr-win-x64-v0.3.0.41%28abcdeab%29.zip/download

 it worked for me no problems

Cheers Jon  Wink
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I'm on drugs, what's your excuse?
I was legitimately interested in this currency because it is one of the few CryptoNote based ones still in development. Then I read more about "1Blockologist" and I was turned off again. He seems like a scam artist, lots of big talk and little actual hard code to show for it. Easy commits mean nothing.

CryptoZoidberg, looking forward to you coming back!


Lol "scam artist", good characteristic for many adventurous people attracted by easy money in cryptocurrency.

Easy money in cryptocurrency would be taking 1% of a coin while away working on another project would it not?

If it's not broken it doesn't need fixing ....I've had zero problems with wallet or mining. The thing everyone seems to miss is that when CZ releases something it works. I have tested a version of his new project and it

looks great GUI wallet and all. I'm convinced that when he returns and brings new features that are in development it will blow people away. I have no problems with his 1%, he is working on new features. He does not

hype it up, just quietly gets on with his work. On the other hand all I see with 1blockologist is hype......if he thinks this is so broken he should go and code his own coin. No one paid huge amounts of BTC for some

dodgy ICO here it has been mined from day 1, many people in crypto have a very short attention span, unfortunately many of them seem to have the loudest voices

Cheers Jon  Wink
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Welll said enuf of the BOOLshit.
You should join the slack...

I don't know anything about tech and have no interest in the mechanics, but how can there be so many hours put into slack when a wallet, a basic wallet that even the worst coins has, is not simply downloadable without warnings, and if you download it you cannot even create a wallet unless you have a degree in figuring out confusing wallets? 
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