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Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 244. (Read 1210779 times)

legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1100
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
windjc james77 and all the rest of the snake oil team had a lot of it. they were never in it for the bbr, they were in it for the btcs. thats how it was for them and they left because zoidberg refused to let them exploit bbr for this purpose.

these guys only pretended to bring value to bbr.  in reality they've hurt it. pure snake oil merchants. seo & marketing stupid ideas such as supernet. find me someone respectable that has shown interest in supernet. from the start CZ said he didnt understand it. it has 0 value. do you really think bbr can bring anonymity to another coin? supernet just agregates certain coins into a fund. you can do the same yourself without having to pay taxes to james.

Don't spread FUD  Roll Eyes (/sarcasm)

Sounds like that's exactly what transpired. CZ really needs to get us out of the dark here. That non-annoucement did nothing for me (us?). I doubt they are looking to give any bonus points for integrity to CZ.



First, I think CZ should hire Tifozi to do the announcements in english for him. It would be a lot easier for everyone to understand what's happening if it was an english speaker that explained it Tongue

I nominate James (James Bond).
hero member
Activity: 723
Merit: 503
windjc james77 and all the rest of the snake oil team had a lot of it. they were never in it for the bbr, they were in it for the btcs. thats how it was for them and they left because zoidberg refused to let them exploit bbr for this purpose.

these guys only pretended to bring value to bbr.  in reality they've hurt it. pure snake oil merchants. seo & marketing stupid ideas such as supernet. find me someone respectable that has shown interest in supernet. from the start CZ said he didnt understand it. it has 0 value. do you really think bbr can bring anonymity to another coin? supernet just agregates certain coins into a fund. you can do the same yourself without having to pay taxes to james.

Don't spread FUD  Roll Eyes (/sarcasm)

Sounds like that's exactly what transpired. CZ really needs to get us out of the dark here. That non-annoucement did nothing for me (us?). I doubt they are looking to give any bonus points for integrity to CZ.



First, I think CZ should hire Tifozi to do the announcements in english for him. It would be a lot easier for everyone to understand what's happening if it was an english speaker that explained it Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1100
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
windjc james77 and all the rest of the snake oil team had a lot of it. they were never in it for the bbr, they were in it for the btcs. thats how it was for them and they left because zoidberg refused to let them exploit bbr for this purpose.

these guys only pretended to bring value to bbr.  in reality they've hurt it. pure snake oil merchants. seo & marketing stupid ideas such as supernet. find me someone respectable that has shown interest in supernet. from the start CZ said he didnt understand it. it has 0 value. do you really think bbr can bring anonymity to another coin? supernet just agregates certain coins into a fund. you can do the same yourself without having to pay taxes to james.

Don't spread FUD  Roll Eyes (/sarcasm)

Sounds like that's exactly what transpired. CZ really needs to get us out of the dark here. That non-annoucement did nothing for me (us?). I doubt they are looking to give any bonus points for integrity to CZ.

hero member
Activity: 723
Merit: 503
Why this dump? What happened  Huh

Looks like another round of rage dumping following "the announcement" which was reneging the plans originally planned for the announcement  Roll Eyes My guess is that CZ backed out of the whole SuperNET idea? which is what the entire CN community wanted (XMR etc).

So we have people with a lot of money who wanted BBR to do things certain way (XMR wanted it to just go away/die and not side with the whole James saga, SuperNET guys wanted it to be Super Duper etc etc) and CZ said no to everyone.

And we have people with little or no money come out of nowhere when a proposition to change brands was suggested, shouted on top of their lungs, never did anything to support the coin or market through the forums etc are left behind and quite possibly going to remain hidden in caves going forward.

Checkmate.  

this is pure speculation ! I don't see any reasons why CZ would do such a thing so please stop spreading FUD.



Speculation != FUDs  Roll Eyes

How about CZ and rest in the know get us out of the speculation ? Who really had that many coins ? If it is not flexing muscles then what is ?

windjc james77 and all the rest of the snake oil team had a lot of it. they were never in it for the bbr, they were in it for the btcs. thats how it was for them and they left because zoidberg refused to let them exploit bbr for this purpose.

these guys only pretended to bring value to bbr.  in reality they've hurt it. pure snake oil merchants. seo & marketing stupid ideas such as supernet. find me someone respectable that has shown interest in supernet. from the start CZ said he didnt understand it. it has 0 value. do you really think bbr can bring anonymity to another coin? supernet just agregates certain coins into a fund. you can do the same yourself without having to pay a % in taxes to james. this whole thing is just a massive pump and dump group where james is the only insider.
member
Activity: 117
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lots of negativity in here. everyone would like a bit more transparency in what's happening behind the scenes but really nothing is different than before the non-announcement.

no need to say 'good riddance' to anyone, since we don't know who is still working with zoidberg at this point. why burn bridges? the news i've seen has made me glad to see our dev has standards (but we knew that already)  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Bitmark Developer
BTW, has anyone ever seen jl777 and windjc in the same room, at the same time?

Yes.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1100
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Why this dump? What happened  Huh

Looks like another round of rage dumping following "the announcement" which was reneging the plans originally planned for the announcement  Roll Eyes My guess is that CZ backed out of the whole SuperNET idea? which is what the entire CN community wanted (XMR etc).

So we have people with a lot of money who wanted BBR to do things certain way (XMR wanted it to just go away/die and not side with the whole James saga, SuperNET guys wanted it to be Super Duper etc etc) and CZ said no to everyone.

And we have people with little or no money come out of nowhere when a proposition to change brands was suggested, shouted on top of their lungs, never did anything to support the coin or market through the forums etc are left behind and quite possibly going to remain hidden in caves going forward.

Checkmate.  

this is pure speculation ! I don't see any reasons why CZ would do such a thing so please stop spreading FUD.



Speculation != FUDs  Roll Eyes

How about CZ and rest in the know get us out of the speculation ? Who really had that many coins ? If it is not flexing muscles then what is ?
sr. member
Activity: 313
Merit: 250
Why this dump? What happened  Huh

Looks like another round of rage dumping following "the announcement" which was reneging the plans originally planned for the announcement  Roll Eyes My guess is that CZ backed out of the whole SuperNET idea? which is what the entire CN community wanted (XMR etc).

So we have people with a lot of money who wanted BBR to do things certain way (XMR wanted it to just go away/die and not side with the whole James saga, SuperNET guys wanted it to be Super Duper etc etc) and CZ said no to everyone.

And we have people with little or no money come out of nowhere when a proposition to change brands was suggested, shouted on top of their lungs, never did anything to support the coin or market through the forums etc are left behind and quite possibly going to remain hidden in caves going forward.

Checkmate.  

this is pure speculation ! I don't see any reasons why CZ would do such a thing so please stop spreading FUD.

legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
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legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1100
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Why this dump? What happened  Huh

Looks like another round of rage dumping following "the announcement" which was reneging the plans originally planned for the announcement  Roll Eyes My guess is that CZ backed out of the whole SuperNET idea? which is what the entire CN community wanted (XMR etc).

So we have people with a lot of money who wanted BBR to do things certain way (XMR wanted it to just go away/die and not side with the whole James saga, SuperNET guys wanted it to be Super Duper etc etc) and CZ said no to everyone.

And we have people with little or no money come out of nowhere when a proposition to change brands was suggested, shouted on top of their lungs, never did anything to support the coin or market through the forums etc are left behind and quite possibly going to remain hidden in caves going forward.

Checkmate.  
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
Why this dump? What happened  Huh
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
If you think for one minute you aren't in for gain as well, your full of it. Of course I was in it for gain, I was in it for the long term, but every attempt to better this coin has been ignored. I haven't seen on suggestion that moves this coin forward. So what's the fucking plan? How are you going to get people to invest, if everybody that comes into with an idea is rejected. I don't see any forward movement, just a bunch of people bitching about keeping the status quo. Oh, don't change the name, oh don't do this, keep it the same blah blah. If you keep it the same it stagnates and dies.

But what gives myself the ability to hold, in the face of impending doom over and over again, is that I've not overextended myself for short term gains or daytrading, or even long-term gains. The personal restraint to not place oneself in a situation where one feels the need to ever declare, publicly, the selling of a currency was a talent I built over the course of a long time. Trust me, I've done the same as you are now - public displays of anti-affection and what not - I've always regretted it before I learned. I really just don't have the motivation to go to poloniex and rage, fear or panic sell 'muh stash' because the investment ranges from whatever that loaf of bread costs.

It's worked out really well. Sometimes, for the investment of literally a couple dollars worth of power bills, I walk away with >10 BTC. It feels great, but the trick is to never stop asking yourself 'if this was useful today, what amount would I feel comfortable, value-wise, using it for?'. Sometimes, that's $1.00, sometimes that's $60. Yes, loaves of bread really can be that expensive. Also, sometimes I get hungry more than one day in a row. Additionally, these are far from sane investment vehicles. I recommend you spend time figuring that out. Talk to the developers, learn how to compile from source, learn to use ubuntu, change some lines in source code - that's where the gain is here. I'm sorry if you don't agree with that, but it's what brought me back from raging and mindlessly chucking peanuts at these decent folk. Take it as it goes, because there's no plan. It's a crap shoot, and I can sure spare a meal or two.

Imagine where you'd be if you bought a loaf of bread worth of bitcoin 4-5 years ago?


What you say, has a lot going for it, and you not wrong. All these coins are crap shoots, and you never know, but I've decided to put my loaf of bread somewhere else for now.  I wish you the best of luck I really do. I just felt there was a lot resistance to change with this community. When ever something was suggested there never was a counter suggestion. Just leave it how it is. I never heard things such as we really should get a decent web dev, to do something about the web site. Even that much would have kept me going, but I haven't seen anything at all. Nothing, nada. I really love this coin, and admire CZ, he is a extremely talented Dev, that probably needs to work on his business sense. Anyway I wish the best for this coin and community, but I can't just sit by and watch every attempt to improve this coin be shot down without an alternative being suggested. I really was shocked at the out cry regarding the name. I have no problem with the name but you'd have thought the world was coming to an end if the name was changed. Doesn't seem very rational to me. I would have personally liked to have had several rounds of voting, where more names were suggested and it was whittled down to just a few for the final vote. There really wasn't much choice, and I'm not surprised Boolberry won.

Anyway I don't believe in name calling, so I wish you all the best going forward. I just going somewhere else that I believe holds more promise.
hero member
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Don't want to interract discussion, but, if someone was care what was happened couple of hours ago with transactions:




it was Clintar and me makeing some stress test with transaction pools + solving some mining pools's wallet problem.


Zoidberg

full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
CZ, could you give us a statement what exactly happened? Is windjc still involved with the marketing?

windjc is disagree with my descision. He has his own reasonable arguments that i respect.
Due to this issues he steped back from marketing now, anyway i'm thankful for his help.


Zoidberg



Zoidberg.  I've become interested in cryptonote.  Prior to now I've mostly been in XMR with a hedge in BBR (my hedge just got cheaper Wink)

I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against.  I applaud you.  If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may Smiley  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy.  I hope we can figure out the funding.

I just want to say. I really wish you the best and I mean it. I am prepared to be shown I'm wrong about my decision, but I've decided to move on to greener pastures. There are a whole group of coins that have been audited and certified by third parties that hold a lot of promise. I talked with windjc and told him about it, he said he was looking into. I guess that never came to pass. You might look into that would offer a lot more legitimacy to the coin.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
If you think for one minute you aren't in for gain as well, your full of it. Of course I was in it for gain, I was in it for the long term, but every attempt to better this coin has been ignored. I haven't seen on suggestion that moves this coin forward. So what's the fucking plan? How are you going to get people to invest, if everybody that comes into with an idea is rejected. I don't see any forward movement, just a bunch of people bitching about keeping the status quo. Oh, don't change the name, oh don't do this, keep it the same blah blah. If you keep it the same it stagnates and dies.

But what gives myself the ability to hold, in the face of impending doom over and over again, is that I've not overextended myself for short term gains or daytrading, or even long-term gains. The personal restraint to not place oneself in a situation where one feels the need to ever declare, publicly, the selling of a currency was a talent I built over the course of a long time. Trust me, I've done the same as you are now - public displays of anti-affection and what not - I've always regretted it before I learned. I really just don't have the motivation to go to poloniex and rage, fear or panic sell 'muh stash' because the investment ranges from whatever that loaf of bread costs.

It's worked out really well. Sometimes, for the investment of literally a couple dollars worth of power bills, I walk away with >10 BTC. It feels great, but the trick is to never stop asking yourself 'if this was useful today, what amount would I feel comfortable, value-wise, using it for?'. Sometimes, that's $1.00, sometimes that's $60. Yes, loaves of bread really can be that expensive. Also, sometimes I get hungry more than one day in a row. Additionally, these are far from sane investment vehicles. I recommend you spend time figuring that out. Talk to the developers, learn how to compile from source, learn to use ubuntu, change some lines in source code - that's where the gain is here. I'm sorry if you don't agree with that, but it's what brought me back from raging and mindlessly chucking peanuts at these decent folk. Take it as it goes, because there's no plan. It's a crap shoot, and I can sure spare a meal or two.

Imagine where you'd be if you bought a loaf of bread worth of bitcoin 4-5 years ago?
legendary
Activity: 1256
Merit: 1009
CZ, could you give us a statement what exactly happened? Is windjc still involved with the marketing?

windjc is disagree with my descision. He has his own reasonable arguments that i respect.
Due to this issues he steped back from marketing now, anyway i'm thankful for his help.


Zoidberg



Zoidberg.  I've become interested in cryptonote.  Prior to now I've mostly been in XMR with a hedge in BBR (my hedge just got cheaper Wink)

I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against.  I applaud you.  If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may Smiley  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy.  I hope we can figure out the funding.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001
So jon is going down in history as the person who did more in one day to BBR than BCX ever did to XMR?
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Whats the point of having a currency that has no worth?

Consider that the tough decision made by the fella you were supposed to have faith in, Dr. Zoidberg, asked himself that very same question. His answer was likely not to sell his BBR's, as he would likely think that the decision he made will cement and fortify the long-term 'worth' of his currency. By dumping now, you're making the very transparent statement that windbag and his group of totally-unknown-to-you pumpers would have had a much more long-term impact on the value of the currency than the developer himself. I think that's a strange statement to make, because it was Dr. Z who made this currency what it is and it will be Dr. Z who will continue to make it into what it will be.

If you disagree with that notion, then I have to draw the only conclusion that you were only in this for immediate short term gain. As that has placed you into a position where you are now selling it for less than you would have a few days ago, please make sure you let go of every last drop and enjoy your departure. I hope you reconsider, but the gravity of such a decision that was just made is something that has personally inspired me to go to the market and grab a loaf of bread's worth of this currency Smiley

If you think for one minute you aren't in for gain as well, your full of it. Of course I was in it for gain, I was in it for the long term, but every attempt to better this coin has been ignored. I haven't seen one suggestion that moves this coin forward. So what's the fucking plan? How are you going to get people to invest, if everybody that comes up with an idea is rejected. I don't see any forward movement, just a bunch of people bitching about keeping the status quo. Oh, don't change the name, oh don't do this, keep it the same blah blah. If you keep it the same it stagnates and dies.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
right now is where a big decision for the coin had to be made, and ivory tower faction won out, and the realists of the coin left. I have to come around in a year when this coin is dead and remind you how you screwed up.

Why does the big decision have to be made RIGHT NOW if it will take a year for the coin to die even with the wrong choice?

Isn't an artificial deadline a technique indicative of a hard sell?

Thanks for the cheep berries, I bought a bushel!

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