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Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 356. (Read 1210783 times)

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At the risk of adding facts:
I think open source is a fact. It's just that I like to highlight different facts Smiley

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- Nvidia supports OpenCL as well as cuda.  The Boolberry miner runs on both AMD and nvidia cards -- which is pretty awesome, all things considered.
 - With the Maxwell architecture (750ti), Nvidia changed the architectural issues that were causing most mining algorithms to be slow (slow shift/rotate instructions).
 - The 750ti is the most energy-efficient GPU mining platform out there.  Period.  But it has a huge drawback of density, and it's not the best choice in hashes-per-second per dollar.
Good points, this is partly why I started with a rather historical note on this debate, I don't know current hardware that well.

In fact, one of my other interests with GPUs is the search for Mersenne primes, and I know Nvidia shines in that application. It's just that I'd never buy computer hardware for a single purpose, especially given the open source stance...

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None of that addresses the philosophical points.  But it's worth throwing into the cost equation.  It depends a lot on your electricity costs and whether you want to use risers, how much balance you want between CPU and GPU, etc.

I went for a funky design centered entirely around mining BBR and XMR -- 750tis and i7-4790 CPUs.  The rigs were painfully expensive, but it was a nice choice when I made it that's paid off well.  The same choice might be a very bad idea today now that the profitability of both BBR and XMR is much lower than it was a month or two ago.  But power is expensive, and the ccminer crew generally does a nice job of providing toys to use on them.
..but if you can afford it, good or you Smiley

BTW, my next major hardware purchase will likely be a Kaveri APU -- I basically need a new CPU/motherboard, but I'm also intrigued by the shared L3 cache between CPU and GPU. It should be great for GPU applications that need a large, fast cache...
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The coin just went up by 22.6% on BITTREX... Quite impressive how fast this happened. Wouldn't this be a goot time to buy to catch the next uptrend early?
lets go to buy somethings. Smiley
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The coin just went up by 22.6% on BITTREX... Quite impressive how fast this happened. Wouldn't this be a goot time to buy to catch the next uptrend early?
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http://fuk.io - check it out!
Kinda weird.

I have finally got all 3 of my cards up and running (280X, 270X and 270) for the last 2 and a half days but haven't found a block. Before I was only running the 280X and was finding a block a day. My speed before with the 280x was about 910,000 now it is 2,096,277.

cant fidn block either. there must be GPU miner with stratum already
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Kinda weird.

I have finally got all 3 of my cards up and running (280X, 270X and 270) for the last 2 and a half days but haven't found a block. Before I was only running the 280X and was finding a block a day. My speed before with the 280x was about 910,000 now it is 2,096,277.
dga
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I don't think there is a minimum, you can mine with pretty much anything, just depends on how much hash you want to have.
My HD 5870 is getting around 550 khash/s. I've been trying to sell at least one of these oldies, but they're still great with certain algos.

As for the AMD/Nvidia question, the following will probably sound like a flamebait or fanboy speak, but that is not my intention.

When opensource GPU miners for Bitcoin first came out in the autumn of 2010, AMD was the obvious choice due to their better integer performance. Some of the current reputation probably stems from this, even though both GPU makers have changed a lot since then.

It is also worth noting that AMD is focused on OpenCL, instead of designing and promoting a proprietary language. Nvidia has CUDA meaning they usually give their best performance using that language, although they also support OpenCL.

The third, possibly irrelevant point is that AMD supports open source driver development, by releasing hardware specs for developers of Linux, Xorg and the like. This is not immediately important, because at the moment you need the closed-source drivers to get the best OpenCL performance. However, some people care about these things a lot. Chances are that after 5-10 years the opensource driver is the only way to use a GPU you buy today -- it's happened before.

This also ties in with the fact how AMD prefers an open standard language rather than a proprietary one. So if you think long term and care about open source / open standards, the choice is obvious.

(As for the fanboy section, AMD is the little guy that could. They developed the 64-bit extensions to x86, for example. This is somewhat relevant to a potential rant concerning 32-bit releases, but not now Wink)

At the risk of adding facts:

- Nvidia supports OpenCL as well as cuda.  The Boolberry miner runs on both AMD and nvidia cards -- which is pretty awesome, all things considered.
 - With the Maxwell architecture (750ti), Nvidia changed the architectural issues that were causing most mining algorithms to be slow (slow shift/rotate instructions).
 - The 750ti is the most energy-efficient GPU mining platform out there.  Period.  But it has a huge drawback of density, and it's not the best choice in hashes-per-second per dollar.

None of that addresses the philosophical points.  But it's worth throwing into the cost equation.  It depends a lot on your electricity costs and whether you want to use risers, how much balance you want between CPU and GPU, etc.

I went for a funky design centered entirely around mining BBR and XMR -- 750tis and i7-4790 CPUs.  The rigs were painfully expensive, but it was a nice choice when I made it that's paid off well.  The same choice might be a very bad idea today now that the profitability of both BBR and XMR is much lower than it was a month or two ago.  But power is expensive, and the ccminer crew generally does a nice job of providing toys to use on them.
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Please tell me how often i will found block if my speed ~18mhash
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I don't think there is a minimum, you can mine with pretty much anything, just depends on how much hash you want to have.
My HD 5870 is getting around 550 khash/s. I've been trying to sell at least one of these oldies, but they're still great with certain algos.

As for the AMD/Nvidia question, the following will probably sound like a flamebait or fanboy speak, but that is not my intention.

When opensource GPU miners for Bitcoin first came out in the autumn of 2010, AMD was the obvious choice due to their better integer performance. Some of the current reputation probably stems from this, even though both GPU makers have changed a lot since then.

It is also worth noting that AMD is focused on OpenCL, instead of designing and promoting a proprietary language. Nvidia has CUDA meaning they usually give their best performance using that language, although they also support OpenCL.

The third, possibly irrelevant point is that AMD supports open source driver development, by releasing hardware specs for developers of Linux, Xorg and the like. This is not immediately important, because at the moment you need the closed-source drivers to get the best OpenCL performance. However, some people care about these things a lot. Chances are that after 5-10 years the opensource driver is the only way to use a GPU you buy today -- it's happened before.

This also ties in with the fact how AMD prefers an open standard language rather than a proprietary one. So if you think long term and care about open source / open standards, the choice is obvious.

(As for the fanboy section, AMD is the little guy that could. They developed the 64-bit extensions to x86, for example. This is somewhat relevant to a potential rant concerning 32-bit releases, but not now Wink)
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Hi people.

What kind of specifications for a computer to mine boolberry?

I am going to buy a computer for mining, but I want it to be able to mine out of the box with no delays.

Just get mining and now, kind of thing, without hassles.

I know that to mine boolberry, I need to have a 64 bit, so I reason I will look for a computer with 64 bit.



64 bit
AMD ATI graphics (but which ones will work to mine boolberry)

Should I also buy a gpu to mine with? if so, which ones?

Thank you in advance



I  suggest AsRock ProBtc or Biostar HB61 mobo.
Celeron processor.
Gold certified psu.
For boolberry ati may be good solution. You may get some amazing deals buying second hand gpu. But for any  other algorithm like jackpotcoin Nvidia 750ti rocks. So from risk management point of view you are better of with 750ti. Plus you need cheaper psu with it.
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Why AMD? The miner works with Nvidia, too.

My current computer has nvidia, but it was useless for
mining bitcoins and scrypt coins, so I reasoned that its
likely useless for mining x11 coins as well or other coins.
I did try mining last year with the nvidia but that failed as the nvidia i have is not
up to the level requireed for opencl or cuda or something like that.

I am not going to bother with nvidia.




Boolberry GPU mining is no different than other GPU mineable coins. There is tons and tons of information in the altcoin mining sub-forum.

First you need to decide whether this is dedicated mining machine or not. This dictates your mobo/cpu options.





I must be new at mining. I dont know what 'dedicated mining machine' is.
but you say I need to decide this.
and mobo/cpu huh what?




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Thank you for your replies, but neither of you answered my question, and I am still
at the same point where I was:


so far, i need

64 bit
AMD ATI graphics


And I wanted to know the minimum level of the AMD graphics to mine
boolberry, but perhaps also to mine x11 coins as well...
So, maybe you know what the minimum requirements are for amd graphics to mine
boolberry?




Just a thought, but it might help if boolberry had written info about the minimum computer requirements to mine boolberry coins. (apart from mentioning the gpu crap to keep it simpler)


*

You need to ask your questions in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0
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It was only the wind.
Earlier I tested my OpenCL mod on my 860M, now I tried on my 750Ti. 58% increase, it looks like. (nsfw as usual)

Here's the stock miner: https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/bbr750Tistock.png
And here's my edits: https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/bbr750Tiwolf.png
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I don't think there is a minimum, you can mine with pretty much anything, just depends on how much hash you want to have.
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Hi people.

What kind of specifications for a computer to mine boolberry?

I am going to buy a computer for mining, but I want it to be able to mine out of the box with no delays.

Just get mining and now, kind of thing, without hassles.

I know that to mine boolberry, I need to have a 64 bit, so I reason I will look for a computer with 64 bit.

64 bit
AMD ATI graphics (but which ones will work to mine boolberry)

Should I also buy a gpu to mine with? if so, which ones?

Thank you in advance

Boolberry GPU mining is no different than other GPU mineable coins. There is tons and tons of information in the altcoin mining sub-forum.

First you need to decide whether this is dedicated mining machine or not. This dictates your mobo/cpu options.
dga
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Having set up solo mining, I have a question about making an alias. While I can issue the make_alias command, do I need to give it every time when restarting the daemon? Is it saved automatically, or is there a way to save it?

You need to issue it after every restart, AFAIK.

I think we need an RPC method to tell the daemon to start working on an alias so that it can be configured without having a terminal attached.
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Having set up solo mining, I have a question about making an alias. While I can issue the make_alias command, do I need to give it every time when restarting the daemon? Is it saved automatically, or is there a way to save it?
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Dear crypto_zoidberg wish to expand some of your team, like the BC team now has 60 people, so the team can go on a balanced development, carry out their duties, we will always support you in silence. Thank you Smiley
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CPU pools appear to be taking way to long to get BBR. We need a GPU pool to stop all the heavy hitting GPU solo miners. This coin will stall till this happens imo.
...
any ideas how stratum gpu development is going on?

no idea unless we have something posted in order to know.
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Ignore 32-bit users. They are poor.
what a terribly stupid thing to say  Angry

thats the hard true about this world, most people dont say it but its everywhere... about bbr not being 32-bit compatible, cryptonotecoins require x64 architecture, things evolve.

Actually in ccminer/nvminer land we are doing CryptoNight in 32-bit releases.

Carlo
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CPU pools appear to be taking way to long to get BBR. We need a GPU pool to stop all the heavy hitting GPU solo miners. This coin will stall till this happens imo.
...
any ideas how stratum gpu development is going on?
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I would like to share some thoughts on promotion of BBR, but before that i'll try to give motivation for them.
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Some suggest MNCs are the devil, but when you have people in different countries working toward common goals, those nations have good reasons not to fight.  So maybe you don't care, but maybe you live in a country that might be in a war but isn't because of this sort of trade.  Wars suck, less of these, please.  This fact is the reason for one of those other weird alt coins, created by that little dev team, the ECB (The EURO).

"If goods don't cross borders, armies will" - Frederic Bastiat (probably)
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I must admit that i do not know what is MNC, but i will try to give an interpretation of few other things mentioned, and suggest to read the whole original post offc. I like to think in terms of entropy as it gives a sense of time, at least the age of a system.

I'll assume here that any system tends to produce entropy as slow as possible (statistically).

That should hold also for any one of us. Indeed, everyone tends to a sort of harmony with its surroundings (local), some more successfully than others. This local harmony doesn't means that for a larger system (global, e.g. some region of space, or the whole World we live in) entropy production is slowest offc Smiley but in an ideal state larger scales should be optimally organized by the state, with further optimal organization between the states to the World level.

What happens in war is that entropy is produced very fast in every sense  - and in that sense huge amount of time and resources is wasted, e.g. to produce war machine in the first place, resources which could be used constructively otherwise. And this is not something that majority wants - e.g. as a consequence of the assumption.

Ppl just wish to live their lives decently, and with Internet can have consensus on a new scales with unprecedented dynamics. For that to mean that wars are becoming less probable, as average Joe will better understand its neighborhood, i think that with each day language barrier is becoming smaller obstacle compared to the terminology unification problem.

Thus, and to cut long story short, for presentation of BBR i would suggest two types of terminology, dependent on who is audience is offc: technical one (unlinkability etc.) and wider public one (privacy etc.). For wider public terminology i'm pretty sure that UN Declaration of Human Rights is the best document in existence that can be consulted, not just because it is already translated to almost all languages - which would make localizations of promotion materials straight forward process.

EDIT1: Winston Churchill described one of the places at which probably always entropy was(is) produced in higher rate per capita than its surroundings that "produces more history than they can consume”. EDIT2: and not completely off-topic, in those places significant amount of entropy production is in a high rate of knowledge getting lost, which allows history to repeat itself in smaller time intervals. Indication of the socio-state is the amount of collective amnesia. And amnesia is a consequence of the assumption, as ppl will live their lives if they cannot live them decently for some reason, producing entropy at higher rates. It kinda that high entropy production perpetuate itself, it has to take god enough impulse from outside (e.g. quantum leap from historical channels of “communication”) to have a chance to correct itself (to find out that it lives in a bigger system which gives a new sense of the neighborhood and allows the assumption to kicks with an attempt of reorganization)
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