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Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 396. (Read 1210783 times)

legendary
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Submitted to CMC. Took 5 minutes.
Expect listing within 2-4 days if there are no issues.
member
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I think it is perfectly acceptable to fork coin. If christian wNts to maintain current fork then good for him. The coin remains an experiment. If you believe in the developer than you will follow the developer.

I believe in the developer. My GPUs will follow the developer. There you have it.


And the experiment would continue. No malice directed at christian. I just argue for continued experimentation. The intent was never to have gpu mining perhapse an impossible goal but worthy of effort. And I am sure the challange will be welcomed by christian and profitable and a lot of learning will be achieved advancing cryptocurrency forward

I would advise against experimentation in the 2nd best established Cryptonote currency. Experiments in newcomers are always highly interesting. Examples for noteworthy experiments are: Auroracoin, Jackpotcoin, Talkcoin...

This is not out of jealousy or another emotion but your input in this regard should be taken with a grain of salt.
However the dev since inception said he would fork if necessary. The majority are at a disadvantage here and I think that is not in the spirit of the coin.

legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1023

It's highly likely Mintpal will list BBR within the week or so.
They are going to want to get a second note coin up on their exchange.

BBR should be able to breathe a little more being on 3 major exchanges.

Mintpal is irrelevant.   BBR doesn't need Mintpal.  It needs better pools and miners so that the network is more decentralized.  Forget about mintpal.  Monero just got listed on Mintpal and it tanked.  Mintpal is over rated.  I don't understand what the fascination with mintpal is.  

Let's start by getting on coinmarketcap.com


I can get the coin on coinmarketcap.com this week. Anyone could have. You can.
I'll go submit it right now.

Crypto is full of people that say "we should" this and "we should that".

Will be submitted within 10 minutes. Then will be about 2-4 days before listing.


sr. member
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just waiting for someone to make a miner that supports stratum, something like lucasjones's cpuminer-multi or wolf's cpuminer-multi.  the pools would take off if there was something other than simpleminer to work with.
We not just waitng guys.
Yesterday i started a work on it.
I reviewed a code of cpuminermulti and node-cryptonote-pool/node-boolberry pool by lucasjones, we need to make little changes in json parametrs names (make it more like classic stratum), and put addendum into another parameter, to not make cpuminer broken.
In cpuminer we need to implement reading of this extra parameters with addendums and merging it into global scratchpad, also wee  need to add info to getjob request, the same as simpleminer do.
Since cpuminer is writen in plain c, it will be not fast, i say it will be much slower for me to implement this features than i could implement it in C++.

It's obvious that i have also A LOT OF WORK on main project(most important is to create binaries for mac, linux, review last commits of other *notes, add some features to GUI), so i wrote to Zone117x to asked if lucasjones are able to do this work with cpuminer/pool, if he does i'll offer maximum prize that i have for this work. If not, i'll do it by myself.

Zoidberg

Zoidberg, Thanks for your hard work.
Although you are a very good and efficient developer,
I think you must find a team to work with you, not do all the things yourself
hero member
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just waiting for someone to make a miner that supports stratum, something like lucasjones's cpuminer-multi or wolf's cpuminer-multi.  the pools would take off if there was something other than simpleminer to work with.
We not just waitng guys.
Yesterday i started a work on it.
I reviewed a code of cpuminermulti and node-cryptonote-pool/node-boolberry pool by lucasjones, we need to make little changes in json parametrs names (make it more like classic stratum), and put addendum into another parameter, to not make cpuminer broken.
In cpuminer we need to implement reading of this extra parameters with addendums and merging it into global scratchpad, also wee  need to add info to getjob request, the same as simpleminer do.
Since cpuminer is writen in plain c, it will be not fast, i say it will be much slower for me to implement this features than i could implement it in C++.

It's obvious that i have also A LOT OF WORK on main project(most important is to create binaries for mac, linux, review last commits of other *notes, add some features to GUI), so i wrote to Zone117x to asked if lucasjones are able to do this work with cpuminer/pool, if he does i'll offer maximum prize that i have for this work. If not, i'll do it by myself.

Zoidberg
hero member
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Guys,best pool I found on OP has only 30 MH/s,and this pool founds only 1 block in 6-10 hours...Devs are using  closed pool for this coin and they have another(not announced miner)Please do not be fools.Try to think critically.

David already said most of the words, i'll only add my 5 cents.

It is well known that is not possible to prove that something doesn't exist, so i can't prove that i don't have private pool or GPU miner for myself.
But, i can help you(and everyone) in your investigation, if you really interested.
Here we have graphs, that is showing some usable info about the project state.
http://boolberry.com/state.html
Among other parameters, there are incoming_conections_count graph, where could bee seen (implicitly) dynamyc of new hosts connecting to network. Another parameter that could give some information is white_peerlist_size/grey_peerlist_size, watching this you can also figure out about how much machines connected or diconnected from network.
Everyone can setup the same graphs on his own server since i've shared munin plugins in project repo (/utils).

And finally, few pictures. This is boolberry network about two weeks ago:



This is boolberry now:



At first scan i saw more than 3000 hosts, but while i was writing this post some hundreds disconnected, as an example of how you could see such connections/disconnections on graphs:



To understang right this connections graphs you should realize that connections are spread along the whole network, and each single server connections info is only indirect indicator of real online hosts amount.

Why so few pools?
If you read our project info, you may know that we have new PoW hash approach(scratchpad that should be transfered to miners), and that's why pools for bbr not trivial and not widespread yet. Current pools for BBR is running by enthusiasts who involved into developing and improving this technology. That's why there are so much solominers, it simply more stable at this moment, and still profitable as i know.

And of course, nobody is hiding the fact of GPU, i explained this issue to community and expalained risks and my vision of how to solve this problem, we working on it.
Let me know if you need some more information.

Zoidberg
full member
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*almost* started to get excited about this coin, until I did a quick Google search and remembered this is the one that Christian @ ccminer is "closed source" GPU mining. He claims to be making 12 BTC per day, and understandably will not open his mining source to anyone.

*** citation needed.

I never stated BTCs per day and the BBR exchange rate then isn't the BBR rate now. And the difficulty now is 3-4 times higher as it was then.


This has already been debated.  

Anyone that wants to mine with the GPUminer needs to donate to the Stratum Pool bounty.  When that's completed cbuchner1 has stated that he'll open source the miner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/completebbr-boolberry-stratum-miner-657484





there is already a stratum pool up and running.. http://bbr.extremepool.org supports stratum, there just isn't a stratum miner!

So we're just waiting for a cpuminer update for cbuchner1 to dump his GPU code in?  That's my understanding.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Found the link
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/completebbr-boolberry-stratum-miner-657484.msg7476159#msg7476159

That's what I am going off of.

just waiting for someone to make a miner that supports stratum, something like lucasjones's cpuminer-multi or wolf's cpuminer-multi.  the pools would take off if there was something other than simpleminer to work with.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250

It's highly likely Mintpal will list BBR within the week or so.
They are going to want to get a second note coin up on their exchange.

BBR should be able to breathe a little more being on 3 major exchanges.

Mintpal is irrelevant.   BBR doesn't need Mintpal.  It needs better pools and miners so that the network is more decentralized.  Forget about mintpal.  Monero just got listed on Mintpal and it tanked.  Mintpal is over rated.  I don't understand what the fascination with mintpal is.  

Let's start by getting on coinmarketcap.com
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
*almost* started to get excited about this coin, until I did a quick Google search and remembered this is the one that Christian @ ccminer is "closed source" GPU mining. He claims to be making 12 BTC per day, and understandably will not open his mining source to anyone.

*** citation needed.

I never stated BTCs per day and the BBR exchange rate then isn't the BBR rate now. And the difficulty now is 3-4 times higher as it was then.


This has already been debated.  

Anyone that wants to mine with the GPUminer needs to donate to the Stratum Pool bounty.  When that's completed cbuchner1 has stated that he'll open source the miner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/completebbr-boolberry-stratum-miner-657484





there is already a stratum pool up and running.. http://bbr.extremepool.org supports stratum, there just isn't a stratum miner!

So we're just waiting for a cpuminer update for cbuchner1 to dump his GPU code in?  That's my understanding.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Found the link
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/completebbr-boolberry-stratum-miner-657484.msg7476159#msg7476159

That's what I am going off of.
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
i tried compiling this last night on 12.04 precise, but i'm having troubles. Later this evening i will post the error information. I hope someone can help me because i like cpu only coins and my interest is genuine, no attempt at fud. FWIW, i tried to compile aeon as well and it wouldn't compile either.

apt-get install libboost1.55-all-dev
apt-get install gcc-4.8
apt-get install cmake

then try again


i installed boost 1.55, then listed the packages of the boost lib folder to make sure all of them were installed. when i try to get gcc and g++ 4.8 it says no package by regex. i ran it with sudo make -j 16 and it gets to compiling a c extension for miniupnc, says some giberish about an unrecognized command line option and exits and it also shows that -WmaybeUnused is an unregcognized flag. if i am understanding this correctly it means that i don't have gcc installed fully, though explain shows i have 4.8 installed. any ideas?

Did you:

apt-get install build-essential

?

hmm, i may not have. its a fairly new install so it only has boost 1.48 and the basic deps. i'll fire it up later and give it a try. thanks

tried but didn't solve the issue
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001

It's highly likely Mintpal will list BBR within the week or so.
They are going to want to get a second note coin up on their exchange.

BBR should be able to breathe a little more being on 3 major exchanges.

Mintpal is irrelevant.   BBR doesn't need Mintpal.  It needs better pools and miners so that the network is more decentralized.  Forget about mintpal.  Monero just got listed on Mintpal and it tanked.  Mintpal is over rated.  I don't understand what the fascination with mintpal is.  
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
*almost* started to get excited about this coin, until I did a quick Google search and remembered this is the one that Christian @ ccminer is "closed source" GPU mining. He claims to be making 12 BTC per day, and understandably will not open his mining source to anyone.

*** citation needed.

I never stated BTCs per day and the BBR exchange rate then isn't the BBR rate now. And the difficulty now is 3-4 times higher as it was then.


This has already been debated. 

Anyone that wants to mine with the GPUminer needs to donate to the Stratum Pool bounty.  When that's completed cbuchner1 has stated that he'll open source the miner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/completebbr-boolberry-stratum-miner-657484





there is already a stratum pool up and running.. http://bbr.extremepool.org supports stratum, there just isn't a stratum miner!
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
*almost* started to get excited about this coin, until I did a quick Google search and remembered this is the one that Christian @ ccminer is "closed source" GPU mining. He claims to be making 12 BTC per day, and understandably will not open his mining source to anyone.

*** citation needed.

I never stated BTCs per day and the BBR exchange rate then isn't the BBR rate now. And the difficulty now is 3-4 times higher as it was then.


This has already been debated. 

Anyone that wants to mine with the GPUminer needs to donate to the Stratum Pool bounty.  When that's completed cbuchner1 has stated that he'll open source the miner.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/completebbr-boolberry-stratum-miner-657484



hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 502
I think it is perfectly acceptable to fork coin. If christian wNts to maintain current fork then good for him. The coin remains an experiment. If you believe in the developer than you will follow the developer.

I believe in the developer. My GPUs will follow the developer. There you have it.


And the experiment would continue. No malice directed at christian. I just argue for continued experimentation. The intent was never to have gpu mining perhapse an impossible goal but worthy of effort. And I am sure the challange will be welcomed by christian and profitable and a lot of learning will be achieved advancing cryptocurrency forward

I would advise against experimentation in the 2nd best established Cryptonote currency. Experiments in newcomers are always highly interesting. Examples for noteworthy experiments are: Auroracoin, Jackpotcoin, Talkcoin...
member
Activity: 196
Merit: 10
I think it is perfectly acceptable to fork coin. If christian wNts to maintain current fork then good for him. The coin remains an experiment. If you believe in the developer than you will follow the developer.

I believe in the developer. My GPUs will follow the developer. There you have it.


And the experiment would continue. No malice directed at christian. I just argue for continued experimentation. The intent was never to have gpu mining perhapse an impossible goal but worthy of effort. And I am sure the challange will be welcomed by christian and profitable and a lot of learning will be achieved advancing cryptocurrency forward
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
i tried compiling this last night on 12.04 precise, but i'm having troubles. Later this evening i will post the error information. I hope someone can help me because i like cpu only coins and my interest is genuine, no attempt at fud. FWIW, i tried to compile aeon as well and it wouldn't compile either.

apt-get install libboost1.55-all-dev
apt-get install gcc-4.8
apt-get install cmake

then try again


i installed boost 1.55, then listed the packages of the boost lib folder to make sure all of them were installed. when i try to get gcc and g++ 4.8 it says no package by regex. i ran it with sudo make -j 16 and it gets to compiling a c extension for miniupnc, says some giberish about an unrecognized command line option and exits and it also shows that -WmaybeUnused is an unregcognized flag. if i am understanding this correctly it means that i don't have gcc installed fully, though explain shows i have 4.8 installed. any ideas?

Did you:

apt-get install build-essential

?

hmm, i may not have. its a fairly new install so it only has boost 1.48 and the basic deps. i'll fire it up later and give it a try. thanks
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1023

It's highly likely Mintpal will list BBR within the week or so.
They are going to want to get a second note coin up on their exchange.

BBR should be able to breathe a little more being on 3 major exchanges.
dga
hero member
Activity: 737
Merit: 511
i tried compiling this last night on 12.04 precise, but i'm having troubles. Later this evening i will post the error information. I hope someone can help me because i like cpu only coins and my interest is genuine, no attempt at fud. FWIW, i tried to compile aeon as well and it wouldn't compile either.

apt-get install libboost1.55-all-dev
apt-get install gcc-4.8
apt-get install cmake

then try again


i installed boost 1.55, then listed the packages of the boost lib folder to make sure all of them were installed. when i try to get gcc and g++ 4.8 it says no package by regex. i ran it with sudo make -j 16 and it gets to compiling a c extension for miniupnc, says some giberish about an unrecognized command line option and exits and it also shows that -WmaybeUnused is an unregcognized flag. if i am understanding this correctly it means that i don't have gcc installed fully, though explain shows i have 4.8 installed. any ideas?

Did you:

apt-get install build-essential

?
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
i tried compiling this last night on 12.04 precise, but i'm having troubles. Later this evening i will post the error information. I hope someone can help me because i like cpu only coins and my interest is genuine, no attempt at fud. FWIW, i tried to compile aeon as well and it wouldn't compile either.

apt-get install libboost1.55-all-dev
apt-get install gcc-4.8
apt-get install cmake

then try again


i installed boost 1.55, then listed the packages of the boost lib folder to make sure all of them were installed. when i try to get gcc and g++ 4.8 it says no package by regex. i ran it with sudo make -j 16 and it gets to compiling a c extension for miniupnc, says some giberish about an unrecognized command line option and exits and it also shows that -WmaybeUnused is an unregcognized flag. if i am understanding this correctly it means that i don't have gcc installed fully, though explain shows i have 4.8 installed. any ideas?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 502
I think it is perfectly acceptable to fork coin. If christian wNts to maintain current fork then good for him. The coin remains an experiment. If you believe in the developer than you will follow the developer.

I believe in the developer. My GPUs will follow the developer. There you have it.
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