Topic: BC.GAME SCAM on SPORTS BETTING $1,456.74 + Irresponsible Gambling control - page 4. (Read 1685 times)

My bad explaining myself in english sorry, I intended to say that If I had self excluded I would lose +-$500 that is the amount I already received (and as told I'm still pending over $200 in bonus from now). I'm still waiting for weekly and monthly bonus (in 14 days) it isn't stated in the site how it works, and it would be my 1st month to receive.


Since beginning, I was considering leaving the platform, but I didnt leave due to the bonus as I told. If I close my account permanently I had lose the bonus.


The best scenario would be blocking me from depositing or playing anymore in their site. That way I could at least receive the calendar bonus. I contacted their support to limit my bets or deposits and they told what you saw... there aren't any kind of limits they can apply...

Once again, you are ignoring the fact if I request my account to be permanently closed I lose the bonus.
Also, those self-exclusions do nothing as you can apply for your account be reopened. The only way for now is losing the bonus but having the account closed.

there are none

They could offer more ways to do it. Rollbit for example pays the calendar bonus after 30 days of self-exclusion.

Thanks once again

Umm... to be fair, you kinda did, you're saying if you close your account permanently, you'll lose +- $500 in weekly and monthly bonus, quoted as below. Unless you try to convey a different message?


While regarding this part of the post,


First of all, let's get one thing clear: you find it difficult to limit yourself, and you're really concerned that you'll lose your weekly gambling bonus [the technicalities and details involved in it, I'll leave that to AHOYBRAUSE], and it didn't occur to you that you need to exclude yourself? You're still trying to limit your time gambling instead of completely leaving the platform?

The lower part of the page you quoted their statement above actually describe the situation very well, which I think you conveniently left out because it didn't fit your narrative,



Now, I am not sure about time, deposit, and other limitation, and I've been trying to find more about that since I read your post, but they surely set one way of limitation that you can utilize: a duration of self-exclusion. The fact that you didn't know about it heavily implies that you have never visited their self-exclusion page.

Dude I didnt mention this: "have another 500$ coming your way"
I told in total I would lose $500. It is not $500 from now<  it is $500 from day 0.

are you a spy? how do you know all my conversation with them on chat or emails?

Have a good night <3 kisses GL with your MSc in BC casino. Buy some milk with the signature payment <3

just a bump on this to the others:



It is part of their terms and conditions, and they don't comply with it. Also what about their support answers to help this case?

LOL you are so funny.
The whole time it was about the technical issues and now that you see you don't get anything you try the mental problem route, that is hilarious.

And the picture you just sent me, let me break it down for you.

The 287$ VIP bonus is the combined level up plus recent weekly/monthly/recharge bonus that you got IN THE PAST.
The 209$ total general bonus is the redeemed rakeback deposit bonus where you get 5$ every 2500$ wagered + maybe telegram bonus and others.

Might be that it's the other way around with the names, but doesn't change anything.

So how do you think you have another 500$ coming your way?? I know it's useless to argue with you since you don't even understand what these bonus amounts are. You got them paid over time, a little here a little there for every level up ( since you are level 30 you got these 30 times) or every time you clicked on redeem bonus from the deposit bonus . So how will you continue getting these little bonus amounts without generating new wager??? 

That's why I said liar because you claimed you have 500$ coming, you have NOTHING but the 150$ weekly (if you even have 10k wager) and a micro monthly coming. Maybe some small recharge.  Nothing else is guaranteed. NOTHING.


By the way, THIS account you are using now has never stated anything on February 18th, haha.
Your other account mentioned that and ONLY in connection with rollbit.

Scrolling through your history I just saw you tried the same exact sob story with cloudbet last summer, same story, different casino.
You know you have this problem, still open new accounts and when you lose you try to blackmail them to get your money back. Won't work this time.

Not get some help, you seriously need it!!! Good night.

Answering similary to you:
I don't care about what you think, and I do not have any obligation to show anything to you. I received 499.12 since 17th February in bonus, appart of the $1000 in bonus.
Meaning if I had closed my account in 18th february as I stated my condition, I wouldn't get that amount.

If if if if if if if...Why keep talking about a solved issue?

Rollbit repaired their mistake and refunded the total deposited in case you didn't notice. Get a life, if you can't help anyone just stay in your corner you don't know what you are talking about.

You got 499.12 for what exactly? Not for weekly bonus, that's impossible.
You have 70k wager life time! 70k is nothing.
I have 250k life time and I never got a bonus you are dreaming off, not even my first week where I wagered 200k. That's 3x your life time wager on the site.

Everything you got in bonus money (not monthly or weekly) was clearing the rake back BCD money from the deposit bonus + level ups. These are paid instantly and ONLY get paid if you continue to wager. They are not paid for past wager.

Weekly sports bonus is a maximum of 150$, that is the MAX amount, you can see that for yourself.
I calculated it all down for you, these are facts.
Your all time wager is a fact, 150$ max weekly is a fact, 0.30$ for 1000$ wager for monthly is a fact.

I don't care about what they offer to addicts, I care about this case and how you are trying to twist thinks to blackmail them. Anyway, I said what I wanted to say. You lost your money fair and square because you took risky parley bets that didn't pay. U can't blame someone for your own decision of choosing the wrong teams to bet on.
They paid you back 1000$ already, even though you also lost that bet fair and square when you made the decision to bet on the side. Sure the odds change was shitty but if it accepted the 2.1 or whatever it was your bet would have lost as well.
Now you lost that money and try to get more from them, that is ridiculous.


PS: Funny how you now suddenly talk about your "health condition". That didn't work for rollbit and it won't work here. Exclude yourself and get help. That's all there is to say.

1000$ was the first claim - then I updated this claim with the disappeared bet of $807 then I updated it to the specific claimed amount of  $1,456.74 that is the total betted during the period that they had issues in their sportsbook that affected my bets.

Lying where? what about the monthly rewards? funny


so good on mathematics and you forgot the past week in your equation?
I already got 499.12, I don't know the specific number to earn within some weeks, but it will be clearly over $500.
Can you now comment the rest of the points? Do you find their offer fair to addicteds?

This is the first casino I ever seen that cannot limit the deposits or bets.

Being $5 or $500 or $5000000000000 it is not good to lose it all if you have an health condition. Why do they state they can limit deposits if they can't in fact??

First of all, how has the name of this "accusation" changed 3 times in the last 24 hours from $807.59 to $1,456.74 and now back down to 1000$??? hahaha

Weekly bonus for the casino was paid today, for sports is in some hours. I just caught you lying again.

I do the math for you.
So checking your sports IDs brought me to your account.
This account has wagered 70k and is VIP level 30. Since VIP level 30 requires 129000 XP I assume almost all your bets are coming from sports betting since it pays 2x XP. So far so good.

So, the maximum sports betting bonus per week is a lump sum of 150$ if you wagered 10k plus. Looking at your sports betting history you yourself provided I assume 10k is possible so 150$ is coming your way tomorrow.

About the monthly, that's a different story. It only pays 0.3$ (for gold VIP) for 1000$ wager, there is no lump sum. So if you would have wagered ALL your 70000$ this month (which can be possible, but only maybe) your wager would pay you a whopping 21$ monthly bonus. That's all you get.

Thats 150$ weekly sports bonus and 21$ monthly bonus. Now whats left is the recharge. But even if you wagered ALL your 70k this week the recharge would be around 7-8$ daily claim, but ONLY if all your 70k wager are from this week, which I highly doubt.

So how do you get to outstanding 500$ ??

Please elaborate.

I tried to limit my deposits and my stakes many times in case you don't know, but BC simply can't limit an account. If I request my account to be permanently closed I'll lose +- $500 in bonus (weekly and monthly bonus) considering my waggered amounts. So considering that, I'm not interested in closing my account.
Perhaps if they had closed my account in that day I wouldn't find such bugs in their system.


You are right, I was confusing to other casino, I tried to find it here but I couldn't. I apologize for that - it is my mistake.

What is your understanding for this ( bc.game/help/responsible-gambling ):

What BC.GAME Has In Place To Help Our Players
To assist players in keeping within their limits, we always suggest that gamblers who enter throughout site always check for the following guidelines and tools on the casinos' site:

• Game Session Timers
• Deposit Limits to can be set at the beginning of play.
• Set limits and provide tools to prevent underage gambling

I'm stating in the chat with their operators that I'm gambling addicted since February 18th yes... The only option is to close permanently my account... doing that I'll lose all the calendar bonus - which is inconvenient.

Look at this recommendations:
https://imgur.com/a/2sbv92D

Take a rest and deposit again is their solution to someone that wants to limit his deposits and is addicted


To make clear: they don't offer any session timer; any deposit limit; any stake limit; any loss limit; any limit at all.

If I may jump in, yes, you get it correctly. The odds changed from 1.5 to 2.15 and it shouldn't affect OP's situation as his bet is a losing bet. However, he argued that he'll probably have a change of mind and took a different decision due to the odd change. Thus he insist it should be voided.

I assume BC choose to be the bigger man and out of a good gesture, they granted that request and voided the bet, thus OP got his balance back. Of which... he immediately use them to place another bet, which become the root of this recent issue.

It is worth to mention [in case you missed this piece of relevant information] that OP is a gambling addict, he raised an accusation against other casino [using his bitcointalk alt-account, which unearthed by AHOYBRAUSE], demanding a refund because he was self-excluded in one of his account but was able to made bets with his other account. He did not mention that he has two accounts on that casino during the self-exclusion request, arguing that they should have known because he made correspondence with... two of the casino's representative, through both of the email addresses, simultaneously. That case settled in his favor, and few days later he had this case with BC.

I asked BC's representative to put him in exclusion during his initial case, but that piece of information seemingly missed by their representative. I am currently in touch with a staff of BC, I am trying to get him placed in exclusion. Not because I have issue with OP [I see him much like other cases I attended] but simply and honestly because OP clearly need external help for his condition.

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OP, ghostingura2, I am still waiting for that quote of their rules that said bets made from a cancelled winning shall be voided as well.

This is the silliest excuse I seen and this is more a perfect example of that you should not play with money you cant afford to lose.

Adult life is not for everyone. 

Thanks for sharing my thoughts. All I'm requesting is to void the bets on that period. The won bets and the lost bets. Their support can't say anything about the missing bets until they reappear some hours later it seems.

What is going on? If there is something wrong with the platform and the sportsbook, why don't they disable sports betting during the working period? They should keep it under maintenance when they work on fixing bugs/glitches. Surely players get affected and they get scared when they see that their bet has disappeared. BC game has been actively solving all the issues in the past couple of weeks and they were recovering their lost reputation. If something like that continues to happen, this will ruin their reputation again. I suggest BC game to come up with a fix and make sure that such a thing does not happen again and again.

One more ghost bet that misses completely the bet history. This time I remembered to record a gif:

https://s9.gifyu.com/images/SFDGN.gif

Yes, I tried in other devices and other browser aswell: https://i.imgur.com/2EC7BvX.jpeg


This behaviour on active players like me is a big killer because I need to manager all the running up bets, and all the balances pending etc. It obviously affects all the bets placed between the disappearence of the bet and the reappearance of it...


Their answer: https://i.imgur.com/rml6YmX.png ...

All I request is to have the bets placed during that period voided.

Yeah I can see where I was wrong but the end result stills is in OPs favour, isn't it?
If the conclusion is the bet has been lost then no matter what the odd become the OP was not supposed to receive anything for the lost bet but he received the stake that he wagered. Or I got this wrong too?

Hmm... this is interesting. For the sake of my future reference, can you quote me the rule from their site that specify this? That any other bets that's made with a fund from a cancelled winning bet shall be cancelled as well?

Nothing needs to get voided here.
There are 2 bets he made .
Bet A, which won, but this bet disappeared for a while and was paid late, 3 hours late.

In the meantime he made a different bet on a different game/parley, that was bet B.
Since this bet wasn't going in the right direction he wanted to use the funds of bet A to counter bet bet B. That money wasn't yet in his account though.

Obviously if he wasn't broke he could just use funds from the wallet or deposit and do the counter bet. But looking at his betting history he blew all his funds real quick.  
So he is complaining that he wasn't paid "in time" to use this money for a different bet.

I don't see any reason for bc to make any refunds or voids. You can't calculate with money that you didn't receive yet.
That doesn't work in real life and certainly won't work in this case.

Sure, void that bet. Then accordingly to the rules, all the other bets placed with those winnings would be cancelled aswell.

No, I am saying it will be a sure-bet, namely whatever the outcome of the game is, you'll get something. Compensating your total lost, at the very least, suppose your bet on the losing team is higher than on the winning team. Your case become more... serious because you seemingly placed a counter-bet when you know your first bet will be a losing one. Unless I am wrong?


So, #...9437? Given it is the only bet that has issue and got affected. There are no problem with other betting tickets. You sure about this? I am sure BC is more than happy to arrange it that's what you wish, but I don't think you'll be happy once it's voided.

You already got 1000$ refunded and now you are back for more??
Seriously, you already blamed rollbit for not banning you because of your addiction and now you are coming up with a new story? Do yourself and us a favour and self exclude from bc as well. This is just a waste of time for everybody involved, especially bs support and holydarkness.

Their grading of bets is in their hand, not in yours. When it takes 3 hours it takes 3 hours.
If you wanted to counter bet make a deposit and do so. Complaining that you lost money because they "didn't pay you on time" is crazy.
You seriously blame them for your own wrong decision, betting on the wrong team, that's hilarious!

Well, at least you lost the 1000$ back they refunded you, karma is a b.