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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 11, 2024, 02:16:57 PM

Quote from: rachael9385 on July 09, 2024, 05:10:51 AM

You are correct, one thing I learnt from this quotes is that most people don't think about the risks in the decisions that that take before going ahead to do them. However it's bad because when one can't think about his or her decisions properly before doing them it affects in future because there might be things that needed time to think about. Although people with ADHD disorder are few and the worst part of it all is that one can not tell that so so person or gamble have such mental illness because some of them inherits it from their parents.

If a person is not ignorant about their health issues they will easily identify if they have ADHD disorder or not. Normally every disorder or disease has symptoms, so when a person is having some unusual system, they should visit the doctor who can help analyze what the symptoms is all about.
Some people don't like giving proper attention to their health issues until it has become or when it's becoming worse.

As stated by Aristotle, "character trait is stemmed by repeatedly doing some particular thing". Annoying as it may seem to know, be a victim, or to encounter a person who is careless with people's money, it's all their fault, but in some cases it's not. Addressing ADHD as a major cause to this, sidelines the elementary factors that pushes a person to choose this act of behavior.

Environment, school, friends, and relatives are well known factors that could turn a decent person to become aimlessly unmethodical in his relationship with people including strangers. Laziness is also a term for defining this type of people, but they are quite very hardworking in their art of being heedless, incurious and thoughtless with people's money. It's now an accepted habit in the player's life and going to a doctor would be the last thing in his mind. The best solution to such people is to abstain from dealing with them on money matters.

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on July 10, 2024, 02:00:26 PM

If you advise them to stop they will refuse because they have few games that they I think it would not be good to borrow money to people that are gamblers because we will be putting them into more trouble. I have not seen an addict that can hold someone money without using it for gambling or other irresponsible things like drug abuse or going to do fornication because they can not hold money but only to throw it away.

One of the problems that these guys always have is that they so much believe in themselves, as if the luck and prediction skills that made them win last time are something they can control.

On the aspect of giving a gambling addict money, it's when you know that the person is addicted to gambling that you will stop giving them money.

Some people can appear very pure and good with you to the extent that you will be willing to trust them with anything, even if it's not to lend them the money. You can easily give them money to help you and hold, which they can just, out of their greed, use to gamble.

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In fact don't gamble with money that is not directly your own, my comment is motivated by a recent incident that happened in my location recently where a young man got arrested for gambling with money that was giving to him for safe keeping.

When the owner wanted the money, the young man already staked some game with the money and expecting to win something tangible, to the point that he promised to pay back the money with interest when the owner demanded for it, but when the outcome of the game did not favour him and he lost the entire money without any possibility of paying back he got arrested.

So staying away with people money in gambling is one decipline that everyone need to build, most especially if you are someone that money is kept in your procession all the time.

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Although he never returned my money, and I never asked him for it, I will never lend money to anyone who bets on gambling in the future. I have seen many people who gambled with borrowed money faced more problems and losses and never won by betting but lost more times. So gamblers make this mistake most of the time betting with money loan is the riskiest so such risk should not be taken.

Gamblers have this feeling that they can win with the money that they borrowed therefore they will risk the money and end up losing the money. They repeat this process many times but still end with the same results. If you advise them to stop they will refuse because they have few games that they won but they would not know that they are losing more of the bets that they are taking than winning it. I think it would not be good to borrow money to people that are gamblers because we will be putting them into more trouble. I have not seen an addict that can hold someone money without using it for gambling or other irresponsible things like drug abuse or going to do fornication because they can not hold money but only to throw it away.

Absolutely right, that's the main reason why most people have used people's money to gamble just like how OP already wrote previously. Some gamblers also thinks that when they have won with a particular odds days back and they sees it again they will use the money on their hands they won't even mind if the money belongs to them or not and they or they will borrow money from others even if it's not their friends because they believed that as they have won from that odds days back they will be lucky to with with the odds again. The truth is that not odd is sure, even if you have won from the odd before its your luck and you should also know gang odds changes.

the only scenario that I can sell that next people to use a borrowed money or use some people's money to participate in gambling is when there are addicted in gambling and they are desperate to win when they have no Assurance of winning gambling, it is obvious from my own perspective but the gambling has to do with the opportunity and it is not assured that anyone who participate in gambling monster actually benefit in gambling or wing gambling so therefore it is out of Desperate and the addition that makes people to use what does not belong to them to partake in gambling

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on July 10, 2024, 02:00:26 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin_people on July 08, 2024, 11:20:55 AM

Although he never returned my money, and I never asked him for it, I will never lend money to anyone who bets on gambling in the future. I have seen many people who gambled with borrowed money faced more problems and losses and never won by betting but lost more times. So gamblers make this mistake most of the time betting with money loan is the riskiest so such risk should not be taken.

Gamblers have this feeling that they can win with the money that they borrowed therefore they will risk the money and end up losing the money. They repeat this process many times but still end with the same results. If you advise them to stop they will refuse because they have few games that they won but they would not know that they are losing more of the bets that they are taking than winning it. I think it would not be good to borrow money to people that are gamblers because we will be putting them into more trouble. I have not seen an addict that can hold someone money without using it for gambling or other irresponsible things like drug abuse or going to do fornication because they can not hold money but only to throw it away.

Absolutely right, that's the main reason why most people have used people's money to gamble just like how OP already wrote previously. Some gamblers also thinks that when they have won with a particular odds days back and they sees it again they will use the money on their hands they won't even mind if the money belongs to them or not and they or they will borrow money from others even if it's not their friends because they believed that as they have won from that odds days back they will be lucky to with with the odds again. The truth is that not odd is sure, even if you have won from the odd before its your luck and you should also know gang odds changes.

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Quote from: Hewlet on May 15, 2024, 09:31:17 AM

this shouldn't always be shifted to gambling to be honest. He could have squandered the money with whichever way he chooses to buy it's just that for this context, he chooses to use it to gamble. People need to understand that any money that's not your own should be kept for the purpose for which the money got into your hands. You can't be too smart when it comes to using people's money. There is some sort of spirit that's associated with people's money. Sometimes you can use your money to gamble and wouldn't loose it but when it comes to other people's money, it's always strange how it goes off in no time.

The illiterate is the main problem of some people's, if not can someone been spending another person money without the permission of owner, especially when is comes to gambling after everyone knows the kind of risks that involve in gambling, some will still get mind use the money that is not belong to him into gambling. What of if him lose everything how can him explain to the owner, which is unfortunately not good ideal but not all people's comprehend how the gambling experiences goes on.

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If you aren't ready to gamble responsibly most expecially when it has to do with people's money, you should reconsider quiting entirely.

Advise is a loud word to hear but not everyone understands, and even those that understand refuse to fellow the advise passing by some people's, gambling is all about money and anyone who interested in gambling most have his own personal financial to initiate a gambling, but they will be pushing themselves into gambling and that's why some don't care to squander people's money.

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Obviously, there will always be a chance for them to lose money that was donated, or deposited with an institution or perhaps someone in a group. Even though they have trusted this institution or person but in reality, there will always be an opportunity for irresponsible people to misuse the funds they hold. With problems like that, of course it is difficult to detect whether the person or institution can really be trusted or not. Because, even if we put money with our own friends, there will always be a risk, especially when we save money with institutions or people where we basically don't know that person's life in depth.

Because of course, misuse of money like this can happen to anyone and the money can be used for different purposes. But in essence, they will misuse the money for their living needs or to fulfill their own lifestyle. But even so, of course a case like this will definitely be revealed, because a case like this will quickly be raised because it has many victims because it is related to the money of many people or society.

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Quote from: GigaBit on July 11, 2024, 03:17:30 PM

Quote from: $weetne$$ on July 10, 2024, 02:00:26 PM

Gamblers have this feeling that they can win with the money that they borrowed therefore they will risk the money and end up losing the money. They repeat this process many times but still end with the same results. If you advise them to stop they will refuse because they have few games that they won but they would not know that they are losing more of the bets that they are taking than winning it. I think it would not be good to borrow money to people that are gamblers because we will be putting them into more trouble. I have not seen an addict that can hold someone money without using it for gambling or other irresponsible things like drug abuse or going to do fornication because they can not hold money but only to throw it away.

Gamblers feel that trying to guide them in the right direction is futile if they become addicted or cherish gambling as a money-making scheme. I have observed a gambler who lost so much by which he also lost human strength. When asked about quitting gambling, he says he can't find any other way to recover his lost money. He feels that it is difficult for him to recover the amount of money he has lost in any other way. He said he would recover the money he lost from gambling even if he borrowed. But he is reluctant to hear about what to do if he loses again. Of course he cannot deny the reality.

This means that one of the reasons why it is always difficult for a gambler to get out of addiction or stop gambling completely is that they have not been able to let go of everything that has been lost before, as you said, they say that they no longer have a way to return something that has been lost. and actually that is an idea that should not be expressed by a gambler, because from the start it has been clear that gambling is an activity of winning and losing, meaning that if you lose and lose money then that is normal.

Gambling is not a place to make money, meaning that no matter how hard you struggle to return something you have lost, it will always be a futile action, because in the end it is clear that you will most likely end up losing a larger amount of money.

As you said, the people you asked said that they would be able to get back the money they had lost in gambling, and I would say that in fact they were being played by their own hopes, and this is why we always recommend to anyone, especially beginners, to first assess gambling with a rational mindset and perspective, because by doing this it is definitely less likely for them to put their faith in the wrong place.

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on July 10, 2024, 02:00:26 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin_people on July 08, 2024, 11:20:55 AM

Although he never returned my money, and I never asked him for it, I will never lend money to anyone who bets on gambling in the future. I have seen many people who gambled with borrowed money faced more problems and losses and never won by betting but lost more times. So gamblers make this mistake most of the time betting with money loan is the riskiest so such risk should not be taken.

Gamblers have this feeling that they can win with the money that they borrowed therefore they will risk the money and end up losing the money. They repeat this process many times but still end with the same results. If you advise them to stop they will refuse because they have few games that they won but they would not know that they are losing more of the bets that they are taking than winning it. I think it would not be good to borrow money to people that are gamblers because we will be putting them into more trouble. I have not seen an addict that can hold someone money without using it for gambling or other irresponsible things like drug abuse or going to do fornication because they can not hold money but only to throw it away.

Gamblers feel that trying to guide them in the right direction is futile if they become addicted or cherish gambling as a money-making scheme. I have observed a gambler who lost so much by which he also lost human strength. When asked about quitting gambling, he says he can't find any other way to recover his lost money. He feels that it is difficult for him to recover the amount of money he has lost in any other way. He said he would recover the money he lost from gambling even if he borrowed. But he is reluctant to hear about what to do if he loses again. Of course he cannot deny the reality.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 09, 2024, 05:10:51 AM

You are correct, one thing I learnt from this quotes is that most people don't think about the risks in the decisions that that take before going ahead to do them. However it's bad because when one can't think about his or her decisions properly before doing them it affects in future because there might be things that needed time to think about. Although people with ADHD disorder are few and the worst part of it all is that one can not tell that so so person or gamble have such mental illness because some of them inherits it from their parents.

If a person is not ignorant about their health issues they will easily identify if they have ADHD disorder or not. Normally every disorder or disease has symptoms, so when a person is having some unusual system, they should visit the doctor who can help analyze what the symptoms is all about.
Some people don't like giving proper attention to their health issues until it has become or when it's becoming worse.

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Quote from: Woodie on July 10, 2024, 01:54:29 PM

Gambling with people's money just has some bad mojo that comes with it because you aren't playing freely and your subconscious is always reminding you that the second you lose that money it's debt you getting yourself in and this could negatively affect the relationship you have with the creditor!!

Which is why it is important to gamble with your own money 💵 for your own peace of mind and enjoyable experience, and you can afford to lose without breaking any relationships.

If you cannot stay off gambling, try find a hobby that will keep you preoccupied as this could mean you have plenty of free time on your hands.

That's why gambling can tempts people easily and makes them forgets to be cautious with their money, whether that's their money or other people's money. They will not thinks about to reduce their losses because they use other people's money so they just keeps playing gambling and thinks that they can wins in the next rounds.

Playing gambling using our own money is recommended so we don't have to risks other people's money because we can lose it anytime. We don't have to thinks about how we will gives back other people's money and we only be careful with our money to playing gambling. We must be careful if we playing gambling and not use too much money and not using other people's money because that can gives us big risks of losing the money.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on July 07, 2024, 02:30:26 AM

It’s a sin to gamble with other people’s funds. If it’s your not money, then you should completely avoid touching the money. I have seen many people take loans to gamble. They are forgetting that gambling is not at all sure money. There is risk involved and you need to understand how volatile the risk is. In such a situation if you risk other people’s money, then definitely you are risking your reputation against the other people whose money you borrowed. If you need serious money for gambling, then it’s better to do a serious job and invest only small portion of the salary in gambling to try your luck.

Many people make this mistake, some may borrow money from others without telling them that they are going to use the money for gambling, and some would even use the money someone might have kept with them, they gamble with it with the hope that they will win some money with the money they have and they will keep the extra funds and keep the money that isn't theirs, they don't think about the negative aspect of doing this and that they can lose the money as well.

When such people lose in gambling, that is when they realize that they have made a very big mistake by using someone else's money, if the person asks them about the money, they would be ashamed by telling them that they have spent the money and that they will return it after some time. Acts such as this gets a person humiliated and lose their respect in the eyes of other people.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on July 08, 2024, 11:20:55 AM

Although he never returned my money, and I never asked him for it, I will never lend money to anyone who bets on gambling in the future. I have seen many people who gambled with borrowed money faced more problems and losses and never won by betting but lost more times. So gamblers make this mistake most of the time betting with money loan is the riskiest so such risk should not be taken.

Gamblers have this feeling that they can win with the money that they borrowed therefore they will risk the money and end up losing the money. They repeat this process many times but still end with the same results. If you advise them to stop they will refuse because they have few games that they won but they would not know that they are losing more of the bets that they are taking than winning it. I think it would not be good to borrow money to people that are gamblers because we will be putting them into more trouble. I have not seen an addict that can hold someone money without using it for gambling or other irresponsible things like drug abuse or going to do fornication because they can not hold money but only to throw it away.

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Gambling with people's money just has some bad mojo that comes with it because you aren't playing freely and your subconscious is always reminding you that the second you lose that money it's debt you getting yourself in and this could negatively affect the relationship you have with the creditor!!

Which is why it is important to gamble with your own money 💵 for your own peace of mind and enjoyable experience, and you can afford to lose without breaking any relationships.

If you cannot stay off gambling, try find a hobby that will keep you preoccupied as this could mean you have plenty of free time on your hands.

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Quote from: retreat on May 15, 2024, 06:06:02 AM

There have been many cases like that where people misuse other people's money for their own interests, for example gambling with the money in the hope that they can multiply the money and make themselves rich. Gambling using other people's money is a very stupid act, because gambling is uncertain when you win or lose, and you will most likely lose, so gambling using money you shouldn't gamble with is very risky and should be avoided.

Exactly that, because once upon a time, whenever I read news about people's money disappearing, it was because someone had acted in bad faith.

However, nowadays it has become common for "good people" to lose other people's money even without intending to steal.

They actually believe that they were just borrowing money to satisfy an addiction and that they could easily replace the amount and still make a profit.

Unfortunately, nowadays, any community account needs to be managed with a multiple password in which two or more people need to enter a password to release the money... we no longer know who to trust, someone who seems normal can be a gambling addict and lose the money that is the dream of many people.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on July 09, 2024, 04:46:54 AM

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This means that all decisions are in your own hands as the person who wants to give the loan, but as you said, before we make a decision, of course we must first make considerations, and if we don't know what habits that person has then maybe we can find out from other people, especially from the person's closest friends, and if in the end there are no things that could trigger bad things to happen, such as for example the person is not indicated to be involved in gambling or any habits that are a waste of money. without a definite reward then there is no harm in making the decision to give him a loan.

And in terms of whether he will be able to pay his debts or not, it actually depends on the situation he is experiencing, because not paying his debts is not always because he has bad habits, but a lack of income or a financial crisis situation could also be one of the causes, and I think It is a normal situation if they find it difficult to pay their debts to you, but if it turns out that they have bad habits such as gambling or other habits then yes that is another thing where you should not have lent them anything from the start.

And actually, for me, usually when one of my friends asks for help, such as wanting to borrow money, I usually don't think too much about when and whether he will be able to pay the debt or not, because usually money is something that is sensitive, especially in friendships. So from the start, when I give a loan to that person, I usually give up the money, meaning I don't really expect a return, but if at some point he pays it then that's good.

lending money isn't just about dollars and cents, it's about balls and guts. Looking someone in the eye and saying, "I believe in you, even if your credit score's shittier than my first apartment." We ignore humans in the midst of risk and spreadsheets. Money builds bridges, not walls

Giving cash as Halloween candy is not recommended. Perhaps lending without expectation of repayment is the ultimate life hack. Realizing that relationships are more valuable than interest rates is not recklessness

Yes, maybe this could be said about the courage to let go, but maybe not everyone always has the courage to give up something valuable in life, once or twice might not be a problem, but there won't be a chance for them a thousand times. And actually, even though the two parties have a close relationship like friends, that doesn't mean it's an opportunity to be used as an alternative to borrowing money, unless a borrower really knows and confirms that the person who will borrow is a good person and is not involved in an activity. which has an element of wasting money.

On the other hand, although there may be some people like me who only have the intention to help without thinking about returns, I think this will only happen occasionally, and I also actually do it as nothing more than an experiment to find out whether the person is responsible or not. from whether they are a gambler or not, but if you know that money is something sensitive in the relationship then it might not be wrong to refuse their request.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on July 10, 2024, 12:13:47 PM

The extent of his gambling addiction is uncontrollable because if he has control there will be no day he would go gamble with people funds without the fear of losing the money okay, what was his reason for doing that or did he think is going to double the money and refund back to the owner he percentage?
This is one thing with those who are in control of people's funds and whenever they feels like to do what they want they could easily steal people's fund to gamble at least this can also send an important messages to those who are keeping their funds on exchange or in a none custodial wallet making it too vulnerable to lose their asset.

Anyone who would dare to take the money of others in order to gamble actually believe they have gotten a good chance to double or triple that money, the plan is always the same, to earn much more than the initial borrowed amount and keep the difference, the problem is obvious, the expectations of those gamblers will never be met by reality. Even if they initially started to win money with their gambling session, it would be just matter of time before they started to lose it all and ended up holding a significant debt.
It is something one can find much of on the internet, actually, and it is a clear sign of gambling addiction which needs to be tackled as soon as possible.

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The extent of his gambling addiction is uncontrollable because if he has control there will be no day he would go gamble with people funds without the fear of losing the money okay, what was his reason for doing that or did he think is going to double the money and refund back to the owner he percentage?
This is one thing with those who are in control of people's funds and whenever they feels like to do what they want they could easily steal people's fund to gamble at least this can also send an important messages to those who are keeping their funds on exchange or in a none custodial wallet making it too vulnerable to lose their asset.

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Quote from: bakasabo on July 09, 2024, 04:59:03 AM

I will say it like this - if I am confident, that a friend is able to repay debt and wont disappear, I will always lend him the amount of money I can lose/spend/wont change my life. Probably, I would not even ask that person for a lot of details why he need that money. If it is an investment, new car, ran out of money and cant buy food, gambling, and etc, I dont care. I know that person, his financial abilities, we set a repay date and that is it. As well as I expect same attitude from other. I dont have money with me today, or daily card limit dont allow me to spend more, I will borrow the amount I can repay and be careful with them.

I appreciate your approach to lending. But I know a gambler friend who is addicted to gambling. He almost asks me for gambling money. I try to lend him but the problem is that he doesn't repay me as promised. Lending him money makes me doubt whether he will pay back or not. But when he loses gambling, he borrows money with his savant passion. He then offered to pay in perfect time. I observed his behavior several times and I told him not to keep his word. If he comes to me again to borrow money, I will refuse to pay him. If a gambler or a borrower tries to keep his word I am certainly willing to help him but I will never help him if he tries to hide himself by not paying as per the deed.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on July 09, 2024, 11:11:21 AM

Quote from: Cryptmuster on July 09, 2024, 04:46:54 AM

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This means that all decisions are in your own hands as the person who wants to give the loan, but as you said, before we make a decision, of course we must first make considerations, and if we don't know what habits that person has then maybe we can find out from other people, especially from the person's closest friends, and if in the end there are no things that could trigger bad things to happen, such as for example the person is not indicated to be involved in gambling or any habits that are a waste of money. without a definite reward then there is no harm in making the decision to give him a loan.

And in terms of whether he will be able to pay his debts or not, it actually depends on the situation he is experiencing, because not paying his debts is not always because he has bad habits, but a lack of income or a financial crisis situation could also be one of the causes, and I think It is a normal situation if they find it difficult to pay their debts to you, but if it turns out that they have bad habits such as gambling or other habits then yes that is another thing where you should not have lent them anything from the start.

And actually, for me, usually when one of my friends asks for help, such as wanting to borrow money, I usually don't think too much about when and whether he will be able to pay the debt or not, because usually money is something that is sensitive, especially in friendships. So from the start, when I give a loan to that person, I usually give up the money, meaning I don't really expect a return, but if at some point he pays it then that's good.

lending money isn't just about dollars and cents, it's about balls and guts. Looking someone in the eye and saying, "I believe in you, even if your credit score's shittier than my first apartment." We ignore humans in the midst of risk and spreadsheets. Money builds bridges, not walls

Giving cash as Halloween candy is not recommended. Perhaps lending without expectation of repayment is the ultimate life hack. Realizing that relationships are more valuable than interest rates is not recklessness

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