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Topic: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon - page 10. (Read 11316 times)

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Election is over. Trump will not win AZ.


Trump still has a chance in AZ, as in NV. He could also possibly flip WI. MI seems less likely.

Trump has outperformed predictions across the board. The same is true for down-ballot races. Some were predicting Democrats to pick up as many as 15 House seats, and there was a prediction on election night that Democrats would pick up 5 House seats, however Republicans ended up gaining at least 5 House seats, and it seems likely they will flip as many as an additional 7 House seats. Democrats were also favored to flip the Senate, however, that also looks especially unlikely at this time.  


America is not the world-police.
While I agree with this, the above does not mean the rest of the world can do whatever they want without consequence. If a person on the forum is acting in a way I do not like, I may be uninclined to transact business with that person. This is very similar to what Trump was threatening to do with regard to Turkey. Trump has also gotten NATO allies to contribute to defense budgets, which should lead to any "police" action being lead by a broad collation rather than the US alone.
legendary
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Election is over. Trump will not win AZ.

Thought it was close until AZ flipped blue. Trump outperformed and so did senate/house republicans. Guess this is the silver lining.

I don’t think it is productive to chalk this election to voter fraud. I think too many Republicans won’t want Trump to concede. That’s literally the conversation amongst Republican groups rn.
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Doublethink:  An illustration of the liberal mind, its hypocrisy, and its self-serving delusions:

The trumpening is happening...

[—wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
[—wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
[—extremely wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
Some "wonky" stuff going down..

Lol bro. [...] Got a link for your [] story?

I observed the same phenomenon in 2016–17:  Liberals who sneer at hard evidence of real conspiracies were insanely convinced that Russia controlled the election, and Trump stole it.

Actually, they do this every day.  It is just how their minds work.



Protip:  If Trump had the balls to seize the presidency by some more or less not-quite-legal means, then in his first two years, he would have (a) completely sealed the border with Mexico, (b) deported a few zillion of the liberals’ very most favourite contributors to a vibrant American society and “culture” (newsflash: America never had a culture), (c) run through the entrenched Federal bureaucracy like a bull in a china shop, (d) otherwise given you genetically lachrymose liberals something real to cry about—something beyond grandstanding Tweets.

Two examples of U.S. presidents who basically did whatever the fuck they wanted were Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.  Study the history of what they did to ram their ways through all opposition, and try to imagine how liberals would react if Trump were to do even a tiny fraction as much.

Of course, I have cited two presidents whom liberals will never criticize in any way—even if one of them was from the Republican Party.

you simply don’t remember that republicans had many types

A) liberals
B) centrists
C) conservatives

lastly

Democrats had a group of

A) liberals
B) centrists
C) conservatives

Now in America

Liberal = Democrat
Conservative = Republican

This is not good.

legendary
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suchmoons odds etc... (and hopefully, my last copypasta post on this matter)

https://www.vegaselectionodds.com/

Only -500... I would have thought Biden would be -5000 by now. Not too many ways for Trump to win anymore.

what happens if this goes to court like gore v bush ?

does not matter who wins now?

just the court decision counts?

it looks like biden will be declared unofficial winner late tonight or early tomorrow.

do you pay up or do we wait til December to see what the court does?

It's based on the electoral college results. So if courts make decisions affecting EC - it may affect the bet as well.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Michigan is being pretty F'd up.. Some strange vote jumps 100% for biden, and atleast 1 case of voter machines overvoting for the left (to put it nicely)..
Antrim county Michigan fakes Biden votes???!!!

Some "wonky" stuff going down..



what happens if this goes to court like gore v bush ?

does not matter who wins now?

just the court decision counts?

it looks like biden will be declared unofficial winner late tonight or early tomorrow.

do you pay up or do we wait til December to see what the court does?
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suchmoons odds etc... (and hopefully, my last copypasta post on this matter)

https://www.vegaselectionodds.com/
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Doublethink:  An illustration of the liberal mind, its hypocrisy, and its self-serving delusions:

The trumpening is happening...

[—wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
[—wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
[—extremely wild conspiracy theories about Trump—]
Some "wonky" stuff going down..

Lol bro. [...] Got a link for your [] story?

I observed the same phenomenon in 2016–17:  Liberals who sneer at hard evidence of real conspiracies were insanely convinced that Russia controlled the election, and Trump stole it.

Actually, they do this every day.  It is just how their minds work.



Protip:  If Trump had the balls to seize the presidency by some more or less not-quite-legal means, then in his first two years, he would have (a) completely sealed the border with Mexico, (b) deported a few zillion of the liberals’ very most favourite contributors to a vibrant American society and “culture” (newsflash: America never had a culture), (c) run through the entrenched Federal bureaucracy like a bull in a china shop, (d) otherwise given you genetically lachrymose liberals something real to cry about—something beyond grandstanding Tweets.

Two examples of U.S. presidents who basically did whatever the fuck they wanted were Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.  Study the history of what they did to ram their ways through all opposition, and try to imagine how liberals would react if Trump were to do even a tiny fraction as much.

Of course, I have cited two presidents whom liberals will never criticize in any way—even if one of them was from the Republican Party.
legendary
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Well he just 'claimed' enough electoral votes to win, so I guess that's that

He called dibs on them before Biden did, that means they're his. That's how it works.

Michigan is being pretty F'd up.. Some strange vote jumps 100% for biden, and atleast 1 case of voter machines overvoting for the left (to put it nicely)..
Antrim county Michigan fakes Biden votes???!!!

Some "wonky" stuff going down..

Lol bro. The whole story is some guy in a tiny Michigan county said, "Hey, this doesn't seem right!" Meanwhile Antrim county has officially reported 0% of their vote.

Got a link for your "overvoting" story?

It was reported until it got caught, then it was taken down..
Same computer voting system used in 33 other Michigan counties..
legendary
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Well he just 'claimed' enough electoral votes to win, so I guess that's that

He called dibs on them before Biden did, that means they're his. That's how it works.

Michigan is being pretty F'd up.. Some strange vote jumps 100% for biden, and atleast 1 case of voter machines overvoting for the left (to put it nicely)..
Antrim county Michigan fakes Biden votes???!!!

Some "wonky" stuff going down..

Lol bro. The whole story is some guy in a tiny Michigan county said, "Hey, this doesn't seem right!" Meanwhile Antrim county has officially reported 0% of their vote.

Got a link for your "overvoting" story?
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So we ain't getting this  Cheesy Grin
legendary
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Michigan is being pretty F'd up.. Some strange vote jumps 100% for biden, and atleast 1 case of voter machines overvoting for the left (to put it nicely)..
Antrim county Michigan fakes Biden votes???!!!

Some "wonky" stuff going down..
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This is very far from my European bed... Following as best as I can, but what is the situation, will it be Biden or Trump? Best guesses ....

No need to guess much anymore... math is on Biden's side, Trump has mostly tantrums remaining.

For the moment I am agreeing with you. So now let's bet on how bad the tantrums will be.

Odds I'm taking for:

- Epic meltdown twitstorm gets Trump banned from Twitter: 20%
- He refuses the leave office until a ruling is made by the Supreme Court: 20%
- He blames China for election interference: 20%
- He waves his middle finger at the press and tells everybody to fuck off: 10%
- He calls on the militias to "do their duty" to protect the president at all costs: 10%
- He rips his hair off in disgust: 5%

Well he just 'claimed' enough electoral votes to win, so I guess that's that, we'll just have to have two presidents.

legendary
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This is very far from my European bed... Following as best as I can, but what is the situation, will it be Biden or Trump? Best guesses ....

No need to guess much anymore... math is on Biden's side, Trump has mostly tantrums remaining.
legendary
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This is very far from my European bed... Following as best as I can, but what is the situation, will it be Biden or Trump? Best guesses ....
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Is he doing this because the extra uncounted votes in those states will make him lose them? Roll Eyes

He already lost Michigan. Still leading in PA so maybe he's hoping to prevent that from slipping away but this lawsuit can't really do that. There is no basis for their claims. Basically just trolling now and trying to provoke some conflict maybe.

NYT making it look like Biden is in a good spot in PA.



They also have him as a slight favorite in GA still, even though Trump has more votes at the moment.
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Is he doing this because the extra uncounted votes in those states will make him lose them? Roll Eyes

He already lost Michigan. Still leading in PA so maybe he's hoping to prevent that from slipping away but this lawsuit can't really do that. There is no basis for their claims. Basically just trolling now and trying to provoke some conflict maybe.
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The trumpening is happening...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html

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President Donald Trump’s campaign said Wednesday that it had filed suits to halt the counting of ballots in Michigan and Pennsylvania, as the campaign demanded increased access to observe the tallying process at numerous locations in those battleground states.

Funny how they were fine observing the red votes but suddenly need a tantrum more access now.

Pretty sure this has been expected the entire time. Here's the Axios reporting talking about how Donald Trump was planning on declaring victory on election day, which he did (well technically it was 3am the next morning), and then he was going to begin filing lawsuits to stop the absentee ballots from being counted in certain states.

I know this doesn't really compare to the Brooks Brothers riot, cause this isn't a recount. Though I do think that allowing other people into the area to supervise isn't a horrible idea. Then again, the admin just wants to stop the voting and get the courts involved. They really don't care about watching the ballots, lol.

Axios Article - https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-election-victory-ballots-97eb12b9-5e35-402f-9ea3-0ccfb47f613f.html
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The trumpening is happening...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html

Quote
President Donald Trump’s campaign said Wednesday that it had filed suits to halt the counting of ballots in Michigan and Pennsylvania, as the campaign demanded increased access to observe the tallying process at numerous locations in those battleground states.

Funny how they were fine observing the red votes but suddenly need a tantrum more access now.

 Is he doing this because the extra uncounted votes in those states will make him lose them? Roll Eyes
legendary
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The trumpening is happening...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html

Quote
President Donald Trump’s campaign said Wednesday that it had filed suits to halt the counting of ballots in Michigan and Pennsylvania, as the campaign demanded increased access to observe the tallying process at numerous locations in those battleground states.

Funny how they were fine observing the red votes but suddenly need a tantrum more access now.
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