Topic: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon - page 12. (Read 11803 times)

Please gloat to your hearts content.. Enjoy
I can take it..

If Trump loses I won't riot, scream in the streets, slit my wrists, or cry.. Probably won't even be that surprised..

On the other hand, you guys seem so sure of yourselves that I almost hope Biden wins purely for the sake of your mental stability and personal safety..
It won't be the end of the world guys, live to shill marxism another day  (either way, you seem to be on the winning team worldwide)


Even with Trump, I'm quite blackpilled.. One more little nail in the coffin for the future of the free world is quite meh..
The American Experiment has come to a close.. The good times it has created in turn have created too abundant a population of weak overly empathetic and ignorant people so willing to trust authority and think a government can solve all their problems they blame on anything and everything but themselves..
If anything, it will only lessen my respect for any authority and push me further toward individual anarchism (nice way to say "outlaw")..


Oh and nulli.. The USA IS the world police, and I'm damn awful glad that it's the USA and not some gulag fisted communists.. Could be much worse..  
On that note, I think ending colonialism may have been a great mistake.. I can think of many 3rd world countries that would be better off under foreign western rule because they obviously just don't have the intelligence to get their shit together on their own in years since..
National sovereignty for wildlings? I mean really, you must be redpilled on IQ no?

Something like- "a well-informed electorate is a prerequisite to democracy."
"Well-informed" requires high intelligence, the aptitude for delay of gratification, and unselfishness for a democracy to work.. Which we have lost..
The only way it will work is with an intelligent and informed voting population that votes for the future of the country/people (liberty) rather than what might be best for themselves RIGHT NOW ("free" shit)..

Where do you think it went wrong nulli?
Giving non-property owners the right to vote? Giving women, young, minorities, recent immigrants, non english speakers, etc. the right to vote? Or was it just doomed from the start?

Ironic that I was adding this edit to my last post when you posted:


So, the “liberal” and the “conservative” agree, after a fashion:  America should be the world-police.  (The rest is a matter of details.)  Do I need to draw another Coke-Pepsi cartoon?

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Lest anybody misread this as an anti-Trump post, may I remind you that Obama also loved murdering faraway people with drone strikes; and Clinton starved a half-million Iraqi children to death with grossly unjust economic sanctions, before Bushy, Jr. hopped in to finish making his daddy’s mess—thus clearing the way for the rise of that ISIS thing that Trump seems to be pretending that America wants to stop.

No.  This is not an anti-Trump post:  This is an anti-American post.

I will admit that despite his rhetoric, Trump was slightly less of a bloody warmonger than Obama was in practice.  If you care about this, do not vote for Biden!

Actually it turns out Trump has been enabling Erdogan more than keeping him in line (like other authoritarian world leaders), despite the rhetoric.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/us/politics/trump-erdogan-halkbank.html

Of course his obvious conflict of interest only makes things more complicated...

America is not the world-police.

America is not the world-police.

America is not the world-police.

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This is not an anti-Trump post, per se, insofar as his opposition cannot be expected to be any better, no matter what they may say.  By analogy, Obama was Bush III in terms of warmongering foreign policy, especially with that rabid bitch Hillary as Secretary of State.  It’s an American thing.  Thus, this is a classic Nullian anti-American post.

Much though I am not a partisan for the Turks, hasn’t America made enough of a bloody mess in the Near East?  And what the hell was that shot about Europe, the long-suffering victim of the American Empire’s mass-destructive tantrums and the fallout thereof?

I would be inclined to grant that Trump was being sarcastic—but it seemed to be in the “hah, hah—only serious” sense.  And it is indeed a serious matter.

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National sovereignty.  How’s that for a real, old-fashioned conservative value?

The “neoconservative” agenda is the the nadir of liberalism.

I don't see your point about this. Are you trying to imply that if a country does not follow international norms, they should not be held accountable? Are you saying a country can take action to make the world more dangerous without consequence?

If anything the people of Turkey should be grateful that Trump is keeping the dictator of Turkey more in line. Otherwise, you will have Obama/Biden doing nothing with countries start gassing their own citizens.

This restraint is more than what the blue twitter check marks are willing to admit. I think liberals are going to have a party tomorrow instead of taking this victory with modesty, and I think many conservatives have already came to the realization that Biden will win, giving us 4 years of Kamala Harris.

On the contrary, if Trump does win, I hope the left doesn't riot in the streets. But it's wishful thinking.

Quoting for proof.

Luckily I'm not bound by any such intentions. In fact I think I'm obligated to gloat if I win the bet.

So....I really hope Biden wins tomorrow.

Just want to say publicly that if he does win, I intend to put effort into not rubbing it in or being a vengeful asshole.  I probably won't be able to resist entirely, but hopefully the act of posting this will make it less likely I get carried away and go overboard with the trolly gloating.

My election prediction 24 hours before we start getting results: Biden wins handily.

We effectively know the result by 3 AM eastern US time, but it's all but certain early when Biden narrowly carries Florida (~2.5%). Biden wins the national popular vote (not that anyone cares) by ~ 7.2%. Not quite landslide territory, but enough for a very clear result.

The major networks will be giddy, but they won't call the result on election night.

Trump does hold Arizona, but he's unable to replicate his 2016 breakthroughs in MI, WI, or PA (although PA will not be called on election night).

Georgia ultimately goes for Biden, but Texas remains red one more time.

With Florida going for Biden, Trump ends up not doing anything stupid like "declaring" victory, although neither does he give a concession speech on election night.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181232249821388801

Edit:  Thank you, actmyname, for the source link.  My apologies to Twitchy.  Retracted:

Fact check:  Is that a real quote?  (If yes, link please?)  Something seems (cough) just a wee bit hinky about it; and it’s not wise to spread satirical quotes without some obvious marker of it being just that.


If you want to make a parody tweet, this is how it’s done:


Observe the obviously fake URL, the odd number “LOL”, and the question of just how I myself “liked” it “leet” times when I don’t even use Twitter.

In 2018 Trump tried to destroy the Turkish economy by strangling the Turkish Lira to the point it plummeted in value: https://www.ft.com/content/f50594a8-9c96-11e8-ab77-f854c65a4465

Turkey is the biggest contributor of armed forces to NATO after the US and Trump treated a NATO ally with contempt. If Trump ends up being a one term President then all so-called Trump towers and all Trump branding in Turkey will be renamed. If he manages to win a second term then he will have time to try to repair the damage by engaging with the Turks before he leaves office.

Trump is no friend of Turkey and from what I managed find online most Turks do not like Trump and will never stand by him.

We are with you TRUMP. 

From Turkey.     

All the polls shows a Biden victory is certain but they did just that in 2016 when Trump was up against Hillary and she ended up with the popular vote whereas Trump won the electoral college vote. I would say it seems Biden could win with both the popular and college votes maybe even with a landslide but as with what happened in 2016 nothing can be taken for granted.

⚠ WARNING:  This post contains disgusting levels of pedantry.

The following re-spins something that I almost posted in the Wall Observer, awhile back.  It seems more appropriate here.


Looking upthread—wow, wow, wow.  Epic.  The most that Kitty ever gave to me at once was 20 merits for tagging cryptohunter!

Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon
Merited by Lauda (29)

Question:  Is Biden-bunny Cardi B promoting homosexuality, or bestiality?  —Or torture?

• Homosexuality, “wet arse-pussy”:  Whilst investigating the abyss of cultural mass-destruction in the dark corners of the Internet, I have observed homosexual males using slang that identifies their anuses with terms for female anatomy.  I will not be more specific here.  You don’t want to know.  Cardi B’s American “ass pussy” is quite close.
• Bestiality, “wet ass-pussy”:  Cardi B wants YOU to fuck a sexually receptive asinine liberal.
  
  
  
  The Party of the Ass
  
  
• Torture, “wet ass pussy”:  Much though I dislike liberals, it is wrong to waterboard their cats!
  
  
  
  
  And it is wrong to torture me with infelicitous noun modifiers.

Cardi B throws a parse error.


Warning:  I have been known to tryst with masochistic animals of species Puella asinina, who are responsive to me as to an antihero.  Thus, I suppose that I do know wet asinine pussy. ⚠

There is some evidence that Joe Biden was personally profiting off his Hunter's deals. This means that Joe Biden formulated his positions (as a Senator), and US policy (as Vice President) based on money his family was receiving.

Joe Biden had been a senator for 40 years when he became Vice President. If Joe Biden had refused to be influenced by money his family was receiving over 40 years, Hunter's ability to make money off of his family name would be near zero. Over time, the Biden family would develop a reputation for either changing stances based on money received by his family, or not doing this.

I think the real scandal is the censorship of the story, and the media's refusal to report on it. Some have questioned if the coverage of this story (or more specifically, the lack thereof) is an indication that the media will become defacto state-media if Biden is elected.

It appears that Biden made a deal with the devil (the far left wing of his party) once he got nominated. It appears that he is trying to avoid the same anger from Sanders' supporters when Bernie was denied the nomination in 2016.

Say what?  Trump’s Presidential Tweets are his best feature!  I did indicate that I do not take him so seriously...


Say what!?  Character?  The stereotypical sleazy career politician, the old-school crypto-banner and extreme Drug Warrior cum “civil liberties” darling who turns whichever way the wind blows, and selects this as his running-mate:

On character, Biden loses by default!  He does not know what “character” is.

Trump is a cheap showman, but his TV-boss tomfoolery seems almost innocent compared to Biden’s smoothly polished professional lie-machine.

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Ah, you’re onto the trick!  The media will set a narrative that Trump is bound to lose.  They will do it one way or another, any way they can.  I don’t buy it.  Maybe he will lose—maybe not—it is simply political realism to recognize that just as in 2016, it is a very close call between the frenzy of Trump-lovers, and the frenzy of Trump-haters.

The outcome looks tantamount to a coin-flip, IMO.

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Quote from: suchmoon on October 31, 2020, 10:18:40 PM

As for the stuff that you labeled "extreme far left" - which would be center-right in sane countries but I digress -

Stereotypically simpleminded American know-it-all, living in a fantasy that saner peoples are all a bunch of far-left Socialists.

It is bad enough when American right-wingers pretend that everything outside their borders is practically the Soviet Union.  Worse when you do it approvingly.

FYI, the only reason why it sometimes comes off that way is that the Communist NATO-puppet^* régimes in e.g. Europe have passed extreme political censorship laws that criminalize any speech not passing Soviet-style litmus tests.  Thus for instance, Europeans are legally prohibited from having an honest discussion of, say, immigration policy.  Seriously:  In much of Europe, you can come under police investigation for engaging in Facebook discussions about the impact of immigration on your posterity (!).

The only reason why TPTB still tolerate the First Amendment in your country is that the insane American population is so extremely far to the left, dissent from the Marxist agenda is marginal and mostly irrelevant.  If that changes, expect for it to be piecewise dismantled similarly as your Second Amendment—with liberals cheering.  Indeed, that has already been a gradual process ongoing for decades—and there is currently a big push to accelerate it.  Free speech lovers, watch out.

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* Yes, I could back that up—with a bird’s-eye view appetizer, not an historical main course, of headline quotes from Wesley Clark and his clique dictating the future of how Europeans shall run their countries.  However, (0) it is off-topic in a thread about the American reality-TV “election”, and (1) attempts to educate the ineducable are not worth my time.

Feeling like Trump will pull it off somehow no matter what the media says..

Feeling like Trump has a better chance of winning this one than 2016 when I was ecstatically astounded by the results and really expecting him to loose..

If not.. No reason to really worry about it for me..
Roll with the punches..

Trump doesn't have policies. He's a useful tool for McConnell to rubber stamp judges and tax cuts but that could be done by any Republican president. Mexico is still not paying for the wall, China is still not paying the tariffs, and people seem to be catching on to the con.

Biden is about as vapid as a politician can get but that's where the pendulum swings when you gamble on a reality TV show host to run a country and the gamble plays out roughly how you would expect it to play out.

As for the stuff that you labeled "extreme far left" - which would be center-right in sane countries but I digress - unless Democrats win the Senate there will be very little of that. And perhaps not much even if they do win the Senate. Just like Trump couldn't deport all illegals, Biden won't make them all citizens. Big problems are hard to solve, who knew.