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Topic: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon - page 2. (Read 11316 times)

legendary
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It's fine, I think he would still be able to represent himself in the defamation lawsuit:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/25/dominion-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-rudy-giuliani-for-election-claims.html

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“While pushing the disinformation campaign that incited death threats and violence and caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage, Giuliani cashed in by hawking gold coins, supplements, cigars, and protection from ‘cyberthieves,’” Dominion legal counsel Thomas Clare said in a statement.

Lovely.
legendary
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Biden will never be President. Why not? The military has the election fraud knowledge, and so do the militias, and other organizations who have the guns. If Trump isn't given his second term, the election will have to be done over, because Biden will never be accepted because of the fraud.

Here is the plain logic of it. The whole thing is based on having no fraud. So, if Biden gets away with fraud by subverting the Constitution, then the gun people will get away with subverting Biden to maintain the Constitution.

But the Chinese military might step in from Canada to be the guns against the Constitution-abiding military. But the US military guys with their fingers hovering over the nuke launch buttons, just might have to nuke both Canada and China to keep the Chinese military out.

It won't be easy, but what has to be has to be.

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How'd that all work out for you?

Not sure what you mean by your question. I didn't even attend the fake inauguration. The whole thing isn't over.

War decimates people and production. The Chinese don't want it, and neither do Biden and Trump.

The Chinese might have stepped in for war if Trump had formally been inaugurated. With Biden in, they have no reason to, as he is their puppet.

See my reply at the Kraken thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56155200.

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sr. member
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Biden will never be President. Why not? The military has the election fraud knowledge, and so do the militias, and other organizations who have the guns. If Trump isn't given his second term, the election will have to be done over, because Biden will never be accepted because of the fraud.

Here is the plain logic of it. The whole thing is based on having no fraud. So, if Biden gets away with fraud by subverting the Constitution, then the gun people will get away with subverting Biden to maintain the Constitution.

But the Chinese military might step in from Canada to be the guns against the Constitution-abiding military. But the US military guys with their fingers hovering over the nuke launch buttons, just might have to nuke both Canada and China to keep the Chinese military out.

It won't be easy, but what has to be has to be.

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How'd that all work out for you?
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
Some disbarments are more likely than this getting past SC,
You are obviously not a lawyer.  You have no idea what the standards for disbarment are.  Please stop opining from total ignorance—or else hit up West/Lexis, and show some case law applicable to any circumstance even remotely similar.  Every state has mountains of published opinions about its rules of professional conduct for attorneys.  Have fun with that.

Here you go:

New York State Bar Association Considers Expelling Rudy Giuliani
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-east/ny-state-of-politics/2021/01/11/ny-bar-association-considers-expelling-rudy-giuliani



Here’s the avenue that they’ll be going down to try to remove him by the way

  NYSBA’s bylaws state that “no person who advocates the overthrow of the government of the United States, or of any state, territory or possession thereof, or of any political subdivision therein, by force or other illegal means, shall be a member of the Association.”

Landmark case for NYSBA. I’d the put the odds at 50/50 of him actually getting disbarred here. May just end up with a pretty hefty punishment from them and a certain amount of time with his license taken away. We’ll see.
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
[...] I look forward to reading Trump's tweets every morning up until Jan 20th. Never give up! Lol.

well that aged badly

also i thought this thread would be boring af. all i can say is... NOT
legendary
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Some disbarments are more likely than this getting past SC,
You are obviously not a lawyer.  You have no idea what the standards for disbarment are.  Please stop opining from total ignorance—or else hit up West/Lexis, and show some case law applicable to any circumstance even remotely similar.  Every state has mountains of published opinions about its rules of professional conduct for attorneys.  Have fun with that.

Here you go:

New York State Bar Association Considers Expelling Rudy Giuliani
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-east/ny-state-of-politics/2021/01/11/ny-bar-association-considers-expelling-rudy-giuliani

legendary
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OK, I'll change it to something else -- wouldn't want to be accused of leaving false feedback.
legendary
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You're a good man, but I can't help myself...

am probably going to do a little something so I can feel ok about it for myself..



https://secure.winred.com/djt/election-defense-fund-v2
legendary
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Just before the election

I think it was a week or two after the election, but yeah, true story.

I have no doubt you would have paid up but on the other hand I would have probably spent it on useless crap. Ultimately this wasn't about money anyway. Don't feel bad about it. I'm sure you have better ways to use that coin (e.g. hodl) than I do.

Thanks for playing. It was fun.
legendary
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@Nutildah

“nutildah   2020-12-16   Reference   I don't agree with eddie13 very often, about anything, but he's a standup guy. In addition to that, he paid out 3 bets, one of which was substantially large. The forum needs more people like eddie, in some ways...”

This isn’t 100% correct..

Just before the election, when I set up the escrow with SM, SM said they forgave the bet and didn’t want to be paid for it if they won, but would still pay if they lost.. I returned the same courtesy if I won, basically forgiving the bet both ways..
That’s why I only paid out to escrow for you and twitch’s bets..

I was set to put all 3 bets into collateral with SM, what I intended to do, but only ended up putting the 2 for you and twitch in escrow with SM because of that..
I was GOING to pay all 3, but the one with SM was called off.. Not by my choice or mention, but by SM..
So I didn’t actually “pay” that one out.. But I 100% would have..

Y’all need to know because I don’t feel good having false info out there about me doing something that I didn’t, especially on my trust page, as you stated..

Kinda feel shitty not paying it out, but I guess I’ll keep it (mostly), but am probably going to do a little something so I can feel ok about it for myself..

So there you have it.. Me and SM called off our payouts..
Paid you guys though..
legendary
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Thanks for the fun guys!!

legendary
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nutildah, TwitchySeal - here's the TX: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8fe40832c1e7c37d60fe8300af98049f0f435037cb6d1350dcadbbf9ad483206

eddie13 - fees are really low now so I returned your overpayment in full.

https://www.270towin.com/2020-vote-of-electors/

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Thanks, suchmoon. This is really a great idea for a really fun game. Simply add a bunch of colors. Each player takes a color, and tries to Trump dump his color onto a State faster than his opponents can cancel his color out with theirs. Anybody who doesn't maintain his color on the board is out of the game. Simply add a time limit - like 3 minutes - and whoever has the most States colored his color, wins. Love it ❤!

Let's see how fast somebody can start making this game!

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I don't think I've ever seen BADecker this irritated before.  Seems like the outcome of the election finally sinking in.

Thank you. I'm glad you liked the game idea. You've probably looked at this post to see the real details (?) - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55833328.

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legendary
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nutildah, TwitchySeal - here's the TX: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8fe40832c1e7c37d60fe8300af98049f0f435037cb6d1350dcadbbf9ad483206

eddie13 - fees are really low now so I returned your overpayment in full.

https://www.270towin.com/2020-vote-of-electors/

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Thanks, suchmoon. This is really a great idea for a really fun game. Simply add a bunch of colors. Each player takes a color, and tries to Trump dump his color onto a State faster than his opponents can cancel his color out with theirs. Anybody who doesn't maintain his color on the board is out of the game. Simply add a time limit - like 3 minutes - and whoever has the most States colored his color, wins. Love it ❤!

Let's see how fast somebody can start making this game!

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I don't think I've ever seen BADecker this irritated before.  Seems like the outcome of the election finally sinking in.
legendary
Activity: 3766
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nutildah, TwitchySeal - here's the TX: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8fe40832c1e7c37d60fe8300af98049f0f435037cb6d1350dcadbbf9ad483206

eddie13 - fees are really low now so I returned your overpayment in full.

https://www.270towin.com/2020-vote-of-electors/

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Thanks, suchmoon. This is really a great idea for a really fun game. Simply add a bunch of colors. Each player takes a color, and tries to Trump dump his color onto a State faster than his opponents can cancel his color out with theirs. Anybody who doesn't maintain his color on the board is out of the game. Simply add a time limit - like 3 minutes - and whoever has the most States colored his color, wins. Love it ❤!

Let's see how fast somebody can start making this game!

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legendary
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nutildah, TwitchySeal - here's the TX:

Awesome, thanks suchmoon. And thanks eddie13 as well for upholding his end of the bargain. It was a long journey, fraught with twists and turns, and some would even say its not yet over. But let's face it, its over, and I look forward to reading Trump's tweets every morning up until Jan 20th. Never give up! Lol.

What he said.

Thanks suchmoon and eddie for avoiding any headaches.
legendary
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Awesome, thanks suchmoon. And thanks eddie13 as well for upholding his end of the bargain. It was a long journey, fraught with twists and turns, and some would even say its not yet over. But let's face it, its over, and I look forward to reading Trump's tweets every morning up until Jan 20th. Never give up! Lol.
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Probably, if Trump doesn't activate the Insurrection Act, nobody else will do anything in a big way.

The time is near where Trump will have to activate the Insurrection Act, or otherwise forget it.
I don’t think the insurrection act will do much for trump. The military was not on Trumps side during the summer when there was riots and a legitimate need to invoke the insurrection act, or at least the top of the military was not on his side. Trump trying to use the military to stay in power is not going to end well for the US, and would probably not turn out well for Trump either.

Like, what the fuck is this even at this point. Why do people think that it's okay that Donald Trump is going to activate the Insurrection Act -- this man would literally be declaring martial law and and destroying the democracy that we've built to this point.


I don't think he'll do it, but if he does that's a truly horrible thing that should never be done. EVER.
I have not heard any elected Republican official, nor any official in the Republican party call for Trump to invoke the insurrection act. I also have not heard of any mainstream right-leaning person call for Trump to use the military to stay in power.

Obviously, there will always be people calling for rather extreme things to happen.

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Conservatives for years yelled about Obama and how he was going to takeover American democracy to further his own interests. He NEVER declared martial law and he never attempted to takeover the country.
I would point out that Obama weaponized the IRS in the 2012 election season to harass right-leaning interest groups. The Obama administration also used/abused the FISA court to spy on an opposition party presidential campaign.

I would also point out that Clinton supporters had called for Trump's electrical college electors to vote for someone other than Trump in order to prevent him from becoming president.

Obama never declared martial law, but the record does show he acted corruptly in order to keep himself and his party in power. 
legendary
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nutildah, TwitchySeal - here's the TX: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8fe40832c1e7c37d60fe8300af98049f0f435037cb6d1350dcadbbf9ad483206

eddie13 - fees are really low now so I returned your overpayment in full.

https://www.270towin.com/2020-vote-of-electors/

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legendary
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Probably, if Trump doesn't activate the Insurrection Act, nobody else will do anything in a big way.

The time is near where Trump will have to activate the Insurrection Act, or otherwise forget it.
I don’t think the insurrection act will do much for trump. The military was not on Trumps side during the summer when there was riots and a legitimate need to invoke the insurrection act, or at least the top of the military was not on his side. Trump trying to use the military to stay in power is not going to end well for the US, and would probably not turn out well for Trump either.

Like, what the fuck is this even at this point. Why do people think that it's okay that Donald Trump is going to activate the Insurrection Act -- this man would literally be declaring martial law and and destroying the democracy that we've built to this point.

Conservatives for years yelled about Obama and how he was going to takeover American democracy to further his own interests. He NEVER declared martial law and he never attempted to takeover the country.

I don't think he'll do it, but if he does that's a truly horrible thing that should never be done. EVER.
legendary
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Probably, if Trump doesn't activate the Insurrection Act, nobody else will do anything in a big way.

The time is near where Trump will have to activate the Insurrection Act, or otherwise forget it.
I don’t think the insurrection act will do much for trump. The military was not on Trumps side during the summer when there was riots and a legitimate need to invoke the insurrection act, or at least the top of the military was not on his side. Trump trying to use the military to stay in power is not going to end well for the US, and would probably not turn out well for Trump either.

Soldiers follow orders. They are taught to not question the ethics or reasons, or even to know them.

If the Insurrection Act is activated, it will be based on Trump's 2018 Executive Order. So, there will be enough proof for any military people who need it.

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There are obviously limits to that principle. I don’t think Trump invoking the insurrection act is a good idea right now. I don’t see many options for him to challenge the results of the election.

I think Trump should acknowledge that Biden will be President in January (even if illegitimately) and start his 2024 campaign.

We try to forget WW2, Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq, and the horribleness of war. It will be interesting to see what the military will really do if Trump orders formal action against people who perpetrated the election fraud.

If Trump allows Biden to make it to the oval office, Biden's obliteration will be complete. Who says? Most of the military, the militia, and even the police, who all know (or will know) about the fraud, and what they have to do to keep America free.

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