Topic: BetCoin.ag closed account and stole around 1 BTC - page 5. (Read 3901 times)
the scammers betcoin have mediators on bitcoin talk. idont waste time reading his post. he just writes lengthy trash
betcoin.ag has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to connect me to the Montenegro account, apart from the things i have admitted in my original post:
1. Same wallet address for deposit
2. Some amount of the same (similar) bets
Well,
if they decide to confiscate my (and the other person's) money based on the two above, I BELIEVE the bookies in general would open a pandora box on how they can generally scam people in the future.
In the process the many tipster sites and services on the internet (including the biggest Blogabet with half a million users) would have just need to be closed and banned as fraudulent, as the bookies will just claim the multiaccounting rule on anybody following somebody else's bets ...
1. Same wallet address for deposit
2. Some amount of the same (similar) bets
Well,
if they decide to confiscate my (and the other person's) money based on the two above, I BELIEVE the bookies in general would open a pandora box on how they can generally scam people in the future.
In the process the many tipster sites and services on the internet (including the biggest Blogabet with half a million users) would have just need to be closed and banned as fraudulent, as the bookies will just claim the multiaccounting rule on anybody following somebody else's bets ...
sorry nullius, i dont want to seem rude, and i really have no right to, but ...
this is not the first time you somehow dont read everything and then make your bold assumptions and "on paper" also accusing me of some wrongdoings ...
The account from Montenegro would not cover the losses on my account.
why would i create another account "to scam" them, if i am loosing big in mine anyways?
this is not the first time you somehow dont read everything and then make your bold assumptions and "on paper" also accusing me of some wrongdoings ...
The account from Montenegro would not cover the losses on my account.
why would i create another account "to scam" them, if i am loosing big in mine anyways?
N.b.:
So, it seems that Betcoin.AG’s allegation is that you tried to rip them off for 0.6 BTC with an unfair play scheme in violation of TOS, and they turned the tables to punch you in the face for ≈1 BTC.
If their proof of multi-accounting is sufficient, then I think that would be fair and proportionate. —If. It all hinges on the technical evidence, in my opinion.
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I have many times stated (and betcoin.ag confirmed my deposit/withdrawal history) that i ACTUALLY LOST money while betting with them.
i lost BIG
What happened:: Betcoin.ag closed my account (around 0.6 btc profit) citing some laughable rules,
So, it seems that Betcoin.AG’s allegation is that you tried to rip them off for 0.6 BTC with an unfair play scheme in violation of TOS, and they turned the tables to punch you in the face for ≈1 BTC.
If their proof of multi-accounting is sufficient, then I think that would be fair and proportionate. —If. It all hinges on the technical evidence, in my opinion.
We spend many Bitcoin each year on fraud prevention technology [...]
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If you are innocent, I wish you good luck and a fair mediation so that you can get your money back. But if you are guilty, rot in hell! I don’t like cheaters.
If you are innocent, I wish you good luck and a fair mediation so that you can get your money back. But if you are guilty, rot in hell! I don’t like cheaters.
KILLYMNE, if you are not zikzik, then I hope that you will get your winnings paid ASAP. Every gambler should always be paid winnings from fair play! But if you are zikzik, then I myself will LOL at how hard you screwed yourself trying to rip off a site who outsmarted you. :-)
I wish to all parties a fair mediation, with results correct as to the facts and wise in the principles of justice.
I wish to all parties a fair mediation, with results correct as to the facts and wise in the principles of justice.
i have just updated my thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-scam-confiscated-around-05-btc-from-a-winning-account-5285526) with this screenshot
i made sbr report on October 26 and since that day i have not heard a word
Do you guys feel this is a normal situation?
this is a scam betcoin runs and they are pretty good at it. you are not the first and u wont be the last they will scam. they know sbr will probably not respond and if they do they will side the scammers. i made sbr report on October 26 and since that day i have not heard a word
Do you guys feel this is a normal situation?
i have just updated my thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-scam-confiscated-around-05-btc-from-a-winning-account-5285526) with this screenshot
i made sbr report on October 26 and since that day i have not heard a word
Do you guys feel this is a normal situation?
It sad that you made that losses but we the bitcointalk community could not help i your situation but only to discuss matter with you and get the attention of the forum representative for Betcoin.ag for you to resolve your issues or discuss with. In my part, I do believe that there is just a miscommunication between both parties and that could be resolved. If not then I guess you need to move o OP and find a better platform instead. Do not forget to read the Terms and Agreement of the platform you will be joining. i made sbr report on October 26 and since that day i have not heard a word
Do you guys feel this is a normal situation?
i have just updated my thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-scam-confiscated-around-05-btc-from-a-winning-account-5285526) with this screenshot
https://i.gyazo.com/83ce99031eaece466dd9c0e597a4c671.png
i made sbr report on October 26 and since that day i have not heard a word
Do you guys feel this is a normal situation?
https://i.gyazo.com/83ce99031eaece466dd9c0e597a4c671.png
i made sbr report on October 26 and since that day i have not heard a word
Do you guys feel this is a normal situation?
These absolute negative IQ takes are hurting my brain in more ways than one... Sigh.
Alas, I have found my time better spent elsewhere than on keeping up with the spam on this thread. :-/
I did intend to take another action about that, and may still do so; but again, who has the time?
However, I am watching it for news about the mediation; and to avoid the potential that new users may be misled, I should address what on its face appears to be a classic “Newbie” question. :-)
i am new to the forum, can you guys please explain to me, what does this "merited" thing mean?
thanks
thanks
This original intent of the merit system is best explained in the words of the forum’s administrator, theymos:
I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
- Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
- Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.
The sending of merit is an independent action, which can neither be caused nor stopped by the recipient of the merit. Well, it is that way for honest users. Begging for merit is highly improper, as is trading merit. I myself would issue negative trust feedback for that, although I know that some DT members may disagree with me.
Parenthetically, I may draw your attention to the list of all-time top-merited users (login is required to see this page). High earning of merit is NOT necessarily an indicator of trustworthiness; however, it is a demonstration that a forum member has made many posts that were respected by other people. I myself am currently #27 on the list; alas, I have slid since I took a 20-month break from the forum in 2018–20... By coincidence, HHampuz is now at #20 on the same list. Watch out, HHampuz, if I decide to un-retire myself! ;-) There is also a third-party site unaffiliated with the forum’s administration, BPIP, which tracks some data publicly (no login required); see e.g., my BPIP profile page, a full list of all merit that I have ever received, and a list of merit that I have sent to others. —If you want a system to track trustworthiness, you want to look into the trust system, for what it’s worth. Look in the Meta forum for information.
If you have any further questions about the merit system, I suggest asking them on the topic about merit in the Meta forum.
P.S., zikzik, I have a reputation around here. Anybody who has followed my activity, knows that the accusation that I am being paid on this thread is preposterous—just made up on the spot, without even a scintilla of evidence.
I sincerely advise you to ask those idiots to stop it. If I were the OP of a scam accusation thread, I would not want such “supporters”; for their wild false accusations would unfairly tend to discredit me in the eyes of others, with guilt by association. Any longtime user of this forum will see what RichGang et al. are saying about me, and respond: “LOLWUT!?” That is not good for you!
I did not even join this forum to make money legitimately, let alone dishonestly to sell my soul shilling for chump change. FYI, I have never even enrolled in a paid signature advertising campaign, or taken other paid bounties of any kind. I did once decline a 0.02 BTC/week flat-rate private offer for my signature, from a reasonably reputable gambling site (who is not a party to this thread), who guaranteed not to interfere with my freedom of speech; I almost regret turning that down—almost. I publicly offered to join the ChipMixer campaign, as a sort of a political statement in favour of privacy; but it didn’t wind up happening. The grand total amount of money that I have ever made on this forum is negligible. If I lose my 0.01 BTC charity bet with theymos on the outcome of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, then my all-time total income from this forum will be a net negative!
Seriously: nullius is being paid here!? LOL.
Preview page inb4 janggernaut: “nullius posts” take too long to write!
i am new to the forum, can you guys please explain to me, what does this "merited" thing mean?
thanks
it's means either Hhampuz agreed with the post was made by Betcoin.Ag nor Hhampuz think that post was helpful/worthy, so he gave "merit" to that post. It's just like "+1 or liked post" thanks
i am new to the forum, can you guys please explain to me, what does this "merited" thing mean?
thanks
thanks
These absolute negative IQ takes are hurting my brain in more ways than one... Sigh.
sorry, i thought my English was pretty decent, but after reading your message 5 times, i still cant figure out what it means ...
These absolute negative IQ takes are hurting my brain in more ways than one... Sigh.
Maybe the OP can update us on the mediation process, what actually goes on and what he is being asked to PROVIDE by SBR to make their non biased decision?
Unfortunately i dont have any update.
As of now, i have not been asked anything ...
Maybe the OP can update us on the mediation process, what actually goes on and what he is being asked to PROVIDE by SBR to make their non biased decision?
Unfortunately i dont have any update.
As of now, i have not been asked anything ...
I am also afraid that you will not get positive messages. If you hear about it, it will be that the so-called fraud has been established and that they are entitled to collect your money. Don't fall for this nonsense, you have a 100% right to get your money back at all times.
Maybe the OP can update us on the mediation process, what actually goes on and what he is being asked to PROVIDE by SBR to make their non biased decision?
Unfortunately i dont have any update.
As of now, i have not been asked anything ...
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Activity: 938
Merit: 466
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Hello Guys,
Just wondering how this whole bookie scam ended ? Is there any work done by SBR the mediator with them looking into this and making a NON biased decision?
I guess the community should be kept in the loop on how this all plays out especially as this thread is clearly being followed by alot of valued Bitcointalk Users.
My own fears are that if SBR does not use a FAIR judgement in this case against a such respected basketball tipster from Blogabet, what chance does any of us have if any bookie in the future decides to hold onto funds for whatever reason?
Maybe the OP can update us on the mediation process, what actually goes on and what he is being asked to PROVIDE by SBR to make their non biased decision?
Hope to hear from somebody soon on this as it seems everybody has vanished
Just wondering how this whole bookie scam ended ? Is there any work done by SBR the mediator with them looking into this and making a NON biased decision?
I guess the community should be kept in the loop on how this all plays out especially as this thread is clearly being followed by alot of valued Bitcointalk Users.
My own fears are that if SBR does not use a FAIR judgement in this case against a such respected basketball tipster from Blogabet, what chance does any of us have if any bookie in the future decides to hold onto funds for whatever reason?
Maybe the OP can update us on the mediation process, what actually goes on and what he is being asked to PROVIDE by SBR to make their non biased decision?
Hope to hear from somebody soon on this as it seems everybody has vanished
If the OP is a cheater, how did he cheat the website? Can betcoin.ag and his supporters answer this? I'm interested in playing on the website but I am worried now.
nullius sounds like someone really paid to spam trash in the forum. yes i support the above poster.
betcoin is scam. that is it
he is lucky i am not the one he scammed. i will have spammed your thread with info about your scam every few hours. and spam all forums till everyone is aware that you are a thief
That is a good idea actually. We have to make sure people are warned so they can not make anymore victims.
Quoted for reference to both of your admissions that what you cannot achieve with the meritorious arguments that you lack, you attempt by abusive flooding of this forum (and others!) with noise, and bumping the hell out of this thread even when you don’t have anything new to say.
Spam, hereby narrowly construed as shouting essentially the same thing over and over again ad maximam nauseam, should be deleted by the moderators. That is a service to both parties to the dispute, insofar as fair-minded third parties need to be able to read the substantive posts on the thread without wading through spam. Spam on this thread has already wasted a ridiculous amount of my time, and that of others.
We have just submitted our 6 page, 2100 word report with 27 screenshots to the mediator. They have many cases to rule on and this one has an enormous amount of information, so we ask for your patience while this is resolved. It is also possible they will need some additional information from either us or the OP prior to making a ruling. We will update the community with the results. Thank you.
he is lucky i am not the one he scammed. i will have spammed your thread with info about your scam every few hours. and spam all forums till everyone is aware that you are a thief
That is a good idea actually. We have to make sure people are warned so they can not make anymore victims.
Quoted for reference to both of your admissions that what you cannot achieve with the meritorious arguments that you lack, you attempt by abusive flooding of this forum (and others!) with noise, and bumping the hell out of this thread even when you don’t have anything new to say.
Spam, hereby narrowly construed as shouting essentially the same thing over and over again ad maximam nauseam, should be deleted by the moderators. That is a service to both parties to the dispute, insofar as fair-minded third parties need to be able to read the substantive posts on the thread without wading through spam. Spam on this thread has already wasted a ridiculous amount of my time, and that of others.
We have just submitted our 6 page, 2100 word report with 27 screenshots to the mediator. They have many cases to rule on and this one has an enormous amount of information, so we ask for your patience while this is resolved. It is also possible they will need some additional information from either us or the OP prior to making a ruling. We will update the community with the results. Thank you.
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