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legendary
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That means the site encourage the usage of the same address and thats a bad idea also even if you already signed message from your wallet the withdrawal still takes a long time so there is no point at all in signing the wallet if the site still require to manually process the withdrawal

The opposite of everything you just said is very true.
legendary
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Bitcoin address sign a message applied for security so only the original owner can reques withdrawals so far I have no problem with it because it only takes one time. the only one that is still a bottleneck is the withdrawal process requires a long time

That means the site encourage the usage of the same address and thats a bad idea also even if you already signed message from your wallet the withdrawal still takes a long time so there is no point at all in signing the wallet if the site still require to manually process the withdrawal
legendary
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I've been playing poker at betcoin.tm for a few days now. I never deposited, and got up to 40 mBTC from the freerolls and decided to try a withdrawal to see if it worked, how long it took, etc.

The withdrawal process is kind of weird. You can't withdraw until you sign a message with an address in your wallet, and then you can only withdraw to that address. It seems to promote address reuse when I would rather withdraw to a different address each time, but whatever.

I requested a withdrawal of 20 mBTC at 2:55pm and the transaction showed up in my wallet at 8:50pm - so it took a little less than 6 hours.

Bitcoin address sign a message applied for security so only the original owner can reques withdrawals so far I have no problem with it because it only takes one time. the only one that is still a bottleneck is the withdrawal process requires a long time
legendary
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I've been playing poker at betcoin.tm for a few days now. I never deposited, and got up to 40 mBTC from the freerolls and decided to try a withdrawal to see if it worked, how long it took, etc.

The withdrawal process is kind of weird. You can't withdraw until you sign a message with an address in your wallet, and then you can only withdraw to that address. It seems to promote address reuse when I would rather withdraw to a different address each time, but whatever.

I requested a withdrawal of 20 mBTC at 2:55pm and the transaction showed up in my wallet at 8:50pm - so it took a little less than 6 hours.
sr. member
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Still can not open a poker room, always comes up this paper and given a warning  Roll Eyes

"Sorry, access to our multiplayer poker room is restricted for VPN users or users who have multiple accounts. Please disable your VPN to access the poker room and contact our support if you have multiple accounts, so we can provide access to poker for you"



they have remove that restricted for VPN, and most of player can join poker room now..
maybe you need to contact them or with live help support.
the support very friendly and helpful with this matter.
sr. member
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Still can not open a poker room, always comes up this paper and given a warning  Roll Eyes

"Sorry, access to our multiplayer poker room is restricted for VPN users or users who have multiple accounts. Please disable your VPN to access the poker room and contact our support if you have multiple accounts, so we can provide access to poker for you"


It mean you have play with multiple account or using VPN and maybe you use wifi or sharing network. The site is very sensitive to all player who want to cheating in their site with use 2 account or more to play. I guess you to contact the agent about your case.
legendary
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i thought that he was a bot. Every time that i raised the bet he fold.

I think that just means he is sitting out. When you are sitting out you auto-fold whenever there is a bet against you.

I'm dominating in the level 3 freerolls - just won two in a row:



Edit: that's what I get for bragging -- was the bubble boy in the next one two:

legendary
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Still can not open a poker room, always comes up this paper and given a warning  Roll Eyes

"Sorry, access to our multiplayer poker room is restricted for VPN users or users who have multiple accounts. Please disable your VPN to access the poker room and contact our support if you have multiple accounts, so we can provide access to poker for you"


sr. member
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I just played the level 3 freeroll. I didn't see the guy who came in 2nd play a single hand - he was sat out the whole time I was on his table I think.



Active players are going out before the sat out players because they're actually playing the game. It seems a little unfair.

I played against him on a "infinite freeroll" (i didn't see him playing too much) and i finished playing against him, and i thought that he was a bot. Every time that i raised the bet he fold.
It just happened in XP hound level 2 freeroll about 3 user just register but not playing in the freeroll i think that user not only bot but he want to make the level of his account go up self


I agree. There aren't enough players yet to get any of the tournaments running. Reduce the guarantee along with the minimum number of players until things pick up a bit.

I don't understand why the poker isn't busier. There are so many freerolls running, and the leaderboard rewards are pretty good too.

I've made 40 mBTC in a couple of days without depositing, which isn't a huge amount but people will hang around dice site faucets for much much less than that.
I think so too.
The average of all poker guarantee i have see it just need 2 Player to start
legendary
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I just played the level 3 freeroll. I didn't see the guy who came in 2nd play a single hand - he was sat out the whole time I was on his table I think.



Active players are going out before the sat out players because they're actually playing the game. It seems a little unfair.

I played against him on a "infinite freeroll" (i didn't see him playing too much) and i finished playing against him, and i thought that he was a bot. Every time that i raised the bet he fold.
legendary
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I think BetCoin.TM should reduce again minimum players to start each Guarantee tournament. As far as i playing poker there no one Guarantee tournament running. Maybe will be better if reduce around 3 or 4 players

I agree. There aren't enough players yet to get any of the tournaments running. Reduce the guarantee along with the minimum number of players until things pick up a bit.

I don't understand why the poker isn't busier. There are so many freerolls running, and the leaderboard rewards are pretty good too.

I've made 40 mBTC in a couple of days without depositing, which isn't a huge amount but people will hang around dice site faucets for much much less than that.
legendary
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I just played the level 3 freeroll. I didn't see the guy who came in 2nd play a single hand - he was sat out the whole time I was on his table I think.



Active players are going out before the sat out players because they're actually playing the game. It seems a little unfair.
sr. member
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I think BetCoin.TM should reduce again minimum players to start each Guarantee tournament. As far as i playing poker there no one Guarantee tournament running. Maybe will be better if reduce around 3 or 4 players
legendary
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your poker design is really appealing i think it might be one of the best poker sites that has ever existed, also i really like your casino and live casino, i cant stop playing here
legendary
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But if each of the 5 people was using their own phone's data connection to get online it would be OK?

If 5 people are playing on the same IP then obviously something is going on and we can't monitor that. If someone is using the same IP address because they changed it and *somehow* it was the same as another person's then the signs would be pretty clear - the chances of that happening are pretty low and even if it did there are still ways to tell that's what's going on.

I think you misunderstood me.

I'm saying that if 5 people are in the same building and want to play on your site, they could each use their own phone's data connection and play with 5 different IP addresses, and you wouldn't know they were in the same building. Then, if they were cheating, it would be harder for you to detect.

If, instead, you let them all use the same IP address, you would have extra information to help detect collusion.

By forcing them to each use their own IP address you are reducing the amount of information available to you to detect collusion.

TwitchySeal made the same point. In fact I probably stole most of my thinking from him. He's a smart one.

To be fair we did a lot of research. Cubeia is relatively new, but it is, in my humble opinion, the best offering for HTML5 multiplayer poker.

I'm very impressed by it. I'm only posting the 'complaints' I am posting because I want to see the software improve further. Compared to the competition for Bitcoin poker, this is the best I've seen so far. SWC doesn't work if you don't have Windows, and neither does the .ag betcoin. They have an in-browser client, but it's flash based and crashes a lot. I've never tried Nitrogen - I think I read that they use the same HTML5 client as you guys.

Maybe Need Some Detection for MAC Address too..
Thats will be nice..  Smiley

I think your computer's MAC address goes no further than your own local router.

Video poker info says less than 1% house edge.

But the payable is one of the worst and only pays out ~95% with perfect play.

Do you have the math and hands to back that up? House edge is what it says on the tin with perfect play.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/ is very good at calculating the house edge for video poker games. I've not looked at your offering, but can do if you two can't come to agreement on the true edge.

Here's another little problem I've been having with the HTML5 poker software. As soon as I'm in 3 or more games the tiled windows are small enough that the tile icon covers one of the top-left player's hole cards. It would be nice if I could see his cards when he shows. Maybe just move him up and right a bit:

donator
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Our anti-collusion systems are quite obviously some of the most sensitive that I know of. We are gradually dialing back to a level that makes sense for everyone while still giving us the confidence that no one is slipping through the cracks. Gildarts you actually have one of the more common locks on your account - an IP lock. It is the least secure way to block people and also the least reliable, but many poker rooms do have this as an anti-collusion measure. We also have analytics that track players for anti-collusion activities as a secondary. Since you have not been flagged there you've been unlocked again.

If you are locked again I won't unlock you. A false positive on an IP block once happens about 5% of the time. Two in a row happens maybe 0.5%. You will be on 3 or 4 now if memory serves me correctly.

Its second time i got locked from your system.I don't understand why you guys thinking its my fault? several times i said that i don't have any multiple account.Honestly i had a hope that there is a new bitcoin poker site which giving better tourneys free-rolls and bonuses to player so i can play their and win some.But now i am feeling like because of the system i will miss or unable to play their.Because i don't have any hope that system will not lock me in future even i don't have any fault from my side.

But saying again i don't ever create any other account their except this one.

You're unlocked again - I don't think that you'll ever have the issue with your account again. Let me know if you do.
sr. member
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Our anti-collusion systems are quite obviously some of the most sensitive that I know of. We are gradually dialing back to a level that makes sense for everyone while still giving us the confidence that no one is slipping through the cracks. Gildarts you actually have one of the more common locks on your account - an IP lock. It is the least secure way to block people and also the least reliable, but many poker rooms do have this as an anti-collusion measure. We also have analytics that track players for anti-collusion activities as a secondary. Since you have not been flagged there you've been unlocked again.

If you are locked again I won't unlock you. A false positive on an IP block once happens about 5% of the time. Two in a row happens maybe 0.5%. You will be on 3 or 4 now if memory serves me correctly.

Its second time i got locked from your system.I don't understand why you guys thinking its my fault? several times i said that i don't have any multiple account.Honestly i had a hope that there is a new bitcoin poker site which giving better tourneys free-rolls and bonuses to player so i can play their and win some.But now i am feeling like because of the system i will miss or unable to play their.Because i don't have any hope that system will not lock me in future even i don't have any fault from my side.

But saying again i don't ever create any other account their except this one.
donator
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Video poker info says less than 1% house edge.

But the payable is one of the worst and only pays out ~95% with perfect play.  Also, the computer sometimes suggests some pretty bad plays.  (like holding 4 with T Js Ks As X)

I think the 2,672.880 BTC ($1,192,532.14) first deposit bonus is why I've never  bothered to really look at this site in the past, didn't realize there was anything other than those weird games.

Do you have the math and hands to back that up? House edge is what it says on the tin with perfect play. 





You're payout schedule returns 95.5%

If you want to make it 99.5 change the payouts to 800, 50, 25, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1


You don't have to take the hands suggested to you by the computer.

The computer doesn't have to suggest the wrong play.



Thanks for going through the trouble of providing the proof to your claim - we really sincerely appreciate it! Please check again in a few hours and post your findings.

The computer doesn't suggest the wrong plays - but it doesn't always suggest the perfect plays either.
donator
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Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?[/b]

They have poker freerolls on their site and since everyone love free money then it is normal that most user create alot of accounts to play in this freerolls so that is one reason on why would you create multiple account . Whatever you got from their freerolls could be more then what you are paid for their sig ads

If you know that there is no way to withdraw your money even you won by cheating poker site,will you create multiple account then? My account was locked weeks ago the betcointm unlocked it and i know that every poker rooms have the same rule.That make no sense for me to create multiple account.I played every bitcoin site so far but never had issue like this.I am just shocked what a faulty system.

In fact not all players who create multi accounts cares about it whether they will able to withdraw their winning or not, they will always has a way prevent it something like using VPN.



Our anti-collusion systems are quite obviously some of the most sensitive that I know of. We are gradually dialing back to a level that makes sense for everyone while still giving us the confidence that no one is slipping through the cracks. Gildarts you actually have one of the more common locks on your account - an IP lock. It is the least secure way to block people and also the least reliable, but many poker rooms do have this as an anti-collusion measure. We also have analytics that track players for anti-collusion activities as a secondary. Since you have not been flagged there you've been unlocked again.

If you are locked again I won't unlock you. A false positive on an IP block once happens about 5% of the time. Two in a row happens maybe 0.5%. You will be on 3 or 4 now if memory serves me correctly.
legendary
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Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?[/b]

They have poker freerolls on their site and since everyone love free money then it is normal that most user create alot of accounts to play in this freerolls so that is one reason on why would you create multiple account . Whatever you got from their freerolls could be more then what you are paid for their sig ads

If you know that there is no way to withdraw your money even you won by cheating poker site,will you create multiple account then? My account was locked weeks ago the betcointm unlocked it and i know that every poker rooms have the same rule.That make no sense for me to create multiple account.I played every bitcoin site so far but never had issue like this.I am just shocked what a faulty system.

In fact not all players who create multi accounts cares about it whether they will able to withdraw their winning or not, they will always has a way prevent it something like using VPN.

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