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Quote from: dooglus on January 16, 2016, 07:06:40 PM

I just tried the video poker game.

It doesn't work very well. There is no way of telling which cards are held and which aren't. Possibly because the link to the bootstrap code is a 404.

I found through experimentation that I could hold cards by clicking on them once. There is no graphical representation that the cards are held, but when I make the 2nd deal the cards I clicked on don't change.

Except when I get a good starting hand. I got two pairs, clicked on the 4 paired cards, redealt, and they all changed!

I guess what was happening was that the game was auto-holding the two pairs for me, and my clicks were un-holding them.

Sigh. What a mess.

This just cost me 10.5 BTC from my bonus.

It is possible to see that clicking the cards changes something by inspecting the card element.

When a card isn't held, it looks like this (the "HOLD" has class ng-hide):

And when it is held, it looks like this (the "HOLD" isn't hidden):

Here's the error I see in the console which may or not be connected to this bug (the bootstrap css isn't found):

I guess I'll have to cancel the bonus now that I've lost almost all of it figuring out what was going on with this broken game. Sad

It wasnt like that before.

Happened to me too, but I thought it was just bc I was drunk.

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I just tried the video poker game.

It doesn't work very well. There is no way of telling which cards are held and which aren't. Possibly because the link to the bootstrap code is a 404.

I found through experimentation that I could hold cards by clicking on them once. There is no graphical representation that the cards are held, but when I make the 2nd deal the cards I clicked on don't change.

Except when I get a good starting hand. I got two pairs, clicked on the 4 paired cards, redealt, and they all changed!

I guess what was happening was that the game was auto-holding the two pairs for me, and my clicks were un-holding them.

Sigh. What a mess.

This just cost me 10.5 BTC from my bonus.

It is possible to see that clicking the cards changes something by inspecting the card element.

When a card isn't held, it looks like this (the "HOLD" has class ng-hide):

And when it is held, it looks like this (the "HOLD" isn't hidden):

Here's the error I see in the console which may or not be connected to this bug (the bootstrap css isn't found):

I guess I'll have to cancel the bonus now that I've lost almost all of it figuring out what was going on with this broken game. Sad

dooglus

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Also, what is the situation re. playing poker while I have an uncleared bonus?

The bonus isn't accessible while playing poker, so if I make a profit in poker does it go into my regular balance such that I still have it if I cancel the bonus?

That would make the most sense, since when I risk chips in poker I am risking non-bonus chips, so any profit should be considered outside of the bonus. Right?

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Quote from: dooglus on December 26, 2015, 01:00:12 AM

Quote from: betcointm on December 25, 2015, 08:26:50 PM

I can't remember which casino does this off the top of my head, but this is a pretty common addition to the terms - albeit ours is admittedly a bit under-defined.

For example - user gets a 'big win' and then bets on lower odds to clear his bonus. That user is thereby disqualified. Our system just adjusts the stake amount put toward the rollover based on the odds, so we don't have to be quite that heavy handed, but the fact remains that there are entire portals dedicated to 'beating' bonuses. If someone is using these methods, we put it before a security review team and everyone looks at the findings. Usually it's pretty obvious.

You have a 388x wagering requirement. There's no way of "beating" that without getting very lucky.

If someone bets at 95% chance of winning to get through the WR quicker, I don't see how that is in any way "abusive". And if you do, you need to say up front that bets at 95% chance or higher aren't allowed when clearing the bonus. Otherwise you're the ones being abusive by being unclear about your rules.

I don't think I got an answer to this.

Can you be clear about what bets are allowed while working on a bonus and which are not? I would hate to work through the bonus, get amazingly lucky and clear it without going bust, and then have you disqualify me because I broke some unwritten rule.

So how about you make the rules explicit up front? All I have so far is that anyone who "bets on lower odds to clear his bonus" is disqualified. What is the line below which odds are too low? Are there any games which are safe to play without risking disqualification?

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Quote from: maroboror on January 14, 2016, 09:52:51 AM

Quote from: dooglus on January 14, 2016, 03:45:51 AM

Quote from: maroboror on January 14, 2016, 12:01:57 AM

Your Huge Poker Announcement! doesn't last very long Cheesy

[...]

So freerolls get reduced while player pool get boosted...

tl;dr: waaah, this free money you are giving us is unacceptable Wink

I'm surprised how much they're giving away to be honest. It must be costing them a small fortune.

It's tricky getting people to switch poker sites, and even trickier to get them to risk their own money once they've come for the freebies. It will be interesting to see how much action there is at betcoin.tm once the free money dries up.

I'm 100% agree that their promos are more than generous!. In past 20 days I won over 900mBTC from freerolls and LB.

BUT I'm not OK with the way they cut those promos. Suddenly, quietly like "lets cut them, I'm sure nobody will notice it" thinking. Why we should announce it like the "Huge" one and so on. For example Tournament Champions SNGs lasts just 1-2 hours after there was enough eligible players to start playing it for 1-st time.

You must be out of your mind if we think you guys don't notice stuff. We are finding a balance that keeps people interested while protecting our own interests. We will continue to update them until they are a) fun and b) allows people to play at cash games as well. To be 100% candid - it's not great for our new players to come in and see that the only way to play is for free. A lot of people like the risk so we have to accommodate both types. We are still giving away a lot of BTC, and it looks like people are enjoying that, but there is more than one way to play poker and we have to make sure to make everyone comfortable.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 13, 2016, 12:14:26 PM

Quote from: Gianluca95 on January 13, 2016, 05:01:21 AM

Gildarts, if you want to level up follow this rules.

Quote from: betcointm on January 04, 2016, 08:59:33 AM

How do I level up my character?

XP is earned in the following ways:

1.) 5% of winnings in cash games are earned as XP (e.g., 100 mBTC is +5XP)
2.) 50% of Tournament Winnings

I think there must be an error or omission somewhere. Last night I gained level 4 by losing a heads-up tournament.

The rules you posted only mention earning XP by winning stuff - so how did I level up by losing?

I think that 'winnings' should be an amalgam of 'total stake' and 'winnings' that can be separated. Let me refine that a bit.

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Quote from: Supercrypt on January 16, 2016, 01:37:03 PM

Lol when I got 13 mBTC bonus on this site, I was tempted at first, but then realized its basically for us to try the casino and see how things work, which games are good and bad, and so on. I am loving this site after a few weeks now.

Wait...13mBTC? I have never heard that they gives such kind of bonuses. Is it just a typo? AFAIK they gives new player around 12-13BTC with high rollover requirement.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 16, 2016, 12:12:01 AM

I decided to try out the non-deposit bonus thing.

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RISK-FREE NO-DEPOSIT WELCOME BONUS
Our welcome bonus provides you with free Bitcoin to play with when you sign up. After creating your account, the welcome bonus is immediately added to your account. For you to withdraw any of the winnings you get with the bonus amount, you will need to bet your bonus amount times 888x on any of our games.

I already had around 0.040 BTC from poker freerolls etc. and the bonus added 15.62xxx something to my balance. I played a little 'circle' and now it says:

Quote

Current Bonus
Percent Unlocked 0.02%
Current Value ฿16.00000000 102.38%

Then I decided to try the live casino to see how that works. I click 'live dealers' then 'europe' but my bonus has disappeared and all I have left is my old poker winnings:

Does the bonus not work for 'live dealers'? When I read about the bonus it told me I could clear the wagering requirements by playing "any of our games".

Ahhhh yes that text should say any of our Proprietary games. Third party platforms don't use our bonus system as of right now but we're doing some much needed updates to the entire bonus so bear with us.

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Lol when I got 13 mBTC bonus on this site, I was tempted at first, but then realized its basically for us to try the casino and see how things work, which games are good and bad, and so on. I am loving this site after a few weeks now.

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Quote from: maku on January 16, 2016, 10:48:34 AM

Quote from: BruceLee007 on January 16, 2016, 09:22:41 AM

the bonus doesnt work on live dealers? i just tried it and it shows that my balance is zero, still im able to play other games with the bonus, i hope i will manage to win a lot and withdraw

Apparently that is correct. Some people reported this before, too. I don't know is there any reason why betcoin.tm decided to disable bonus when you are trying to gamble with live dealers?
It is intended or it is an omission on their part?

Most likely intended, I don't see them giving you cash to play live dealers with.

It's a bit of a VIP section, thus you need real money to be able to play.

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Quote from: BruceLee007 on January 16, 2016, 09:22:41 AM

the bonus doesnt work on live dealers? i just tried it and it shows that my balance is zero, still im able to play other games with the bonus, i hope i will manage to win a lot and withdraw

Apparently that is correct. Some people reported this before, too. I don't know is there any reason why betcoin.tm decided to disable bonus when you are trying to gamble with live dealers?
It is intended or it is an omission on their part?

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the bonus doesnt work on live dealers? i just tried it and it shows that my balance is zero, still im able to play other games with the bonus, i hope i will manage to win a lot and withdraw

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Quote from: panjul07 on January 16, 2016, 08:48:13 AM

Quote from: camelson on January 16, 2016, 08:12:56 AM

@Betcoin please check this Issue, im trying to open this site from Yesterday but getting this error. Please check it ASAP

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It is strange, I have no issues opening the site till now and I played some today's freerolls without any other issues. It could be a problem on your side IMO, because if the problem is on the site so I and other players would not be able to open and play.

Yes may be this problem is from my side, Because i have slow internet connection in these days and couldn't open few more site,
thanks from the clarification

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Quote from: Trayber on January 16, 2016, 02:03:10 AM

How the heck are you supposed to keep players on the site playing cash game poker when the first time I ever sit down at a table with the only guy available I play one hand with pocket pair 10 10 and he put all his chips in with Ace and Jack and beat me then instant sits out. This is a complete dick move and very bad poker etiquette. BTW, this user name who did this was Tripod. He is a scum bag hit and run player. So if others have same bad experience like me because of guys like him they will not want to play here anymore. It's a shame I just wanted to enjoy some cash game poker for a change and not tournament and this guy Tripod is complete asshole.

well this player hit and ran , Betcoin can't do anything against these type of players
I don't know any site that doesn't allow players from doubling and then leaving , there are such players all over the network
that's why I don't play cash games in low traffic sites , cause you can simply lose in the first 10 mins then you can't find any player to play with

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Quote from: camelson on January 16, 2016, 08:12:56 AM

@Betcoin please check this Issue, im trying to open this site from Yesterday but getting this error. Please check it ASAP

http://prntscr.com/9qsww8

It is strange, I have no issues opening the site till now and I played some today's freerolls without any other issues. It could be a problem on your side IMO, because if the problem is on the site so I and other players would not be able to open and play.

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Interesting thing I noticed: if you are not logged in on Betcoin.tm account then live dealers section is showing only Roulette and Baccarat with Asian dealers (I doesn't matter if you pick different region or not)
If you are logged in, however, you see EU or US dealers and BlackJack is available, this is intended behavior?

camelson

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@Betcoin please check this Issue, im trying to open this site from Yesterday but getting this error. Please check it ASAP

http://prntscr.com/9qsww8

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Quote from: Trayber on January 16, 2016, 02:03:10 AM

How the heck are you supposed to keep players on the site playing cash game poker when the first time I ever sit down at a table with the only guy available I play one hand with pocket pair 10 10 and he put all his chips in with Ace and Jack and beat me then instant sits out. This is a complete dick move and very bad poker etiquette. BTW, this user name who did this was Tripod. He is a scum bag hit and run player. So if others have same bad experience like me because of guys like him they will not want to play here anymore. It's a shame I just wanted to enjoy some cash game poker for a change and not tournament and this guy Tripod is complete asshole.

Yes, still traffic is low.

And will getting lower if they continue to do sneaky things to their players. From today there is a rake on cash games.

Yes, I know your goal is to win some money, but this is not the way to threat your players adding taxes and reducing prize pools sneaky and without any warning/announce.

My suggestion is to wait at least one more month player pool to grow and then add rake...
Adding rake is putting you behind Nitrogen, because they have bigger player pool and cash game freerolls. And betcoin.am are offering 70-190% rakeback (if you start table). And I don't find any incentive to play cash with you beside your LB.

Today was the 1st day when we've played few 50 and 100mbTC MTT because usually there isn't enough players. I guess following your routine they will be also removed in next 24 hours?

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How the heck are you supposed to keep players on the site playing cash game poker when the first time I ever sit down at a table with the only guy available I play one hand with pocket pair 10 10 and he put all his chips in with Ace and Jack and beat me then instant sits out. This is a complete dick move and very bad poker etiquette. BTW, this user name who did this was Tripod. He is a scum bag hit and run player. So if others have same bad experience like me because of guys like him they will not want to play here anymore. It's a shame I just wanted to enjoy some cash game poker for a change and not tournament and this guy Tripod is complete asshole.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 16, 2016, 12:12:01 AM

I decided to try out the non-deposit bonus thing.

I ever saw betcointm write on somewhere this thread or maybe other his thread.. that no deposit bonus is only available for provably fair games..
Ya i try it on live games and the bonus not appearing..
They should rewrite that any of our games to only provably fair games.

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