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and trust me If I was down on the table and playing to catchup with other managers in the pool, I would have gone with Haaland to be very honest, but I predicted that majority of the managers I'm in contention with would have Salah as their captain, so I'd rather take a risk of having just 6 points together with 85% of managers in the entire pool and 95-100% of managers in the top 7, and then try to outsmart them in other areas of the field, than getting more points in every other area of the field and end up losing them significantly to the captaincy.

So in my case, I should probably go with something out of the box to haul up points to catch up with the others rather than sticking with the conservative ways since Im currently 2nd from the last on the table. Well speaking of this, I actually would have hauled up crazy amount of points if I didnt change my captain to Salah from Haaland

Another bad move every week and now Im a bit below average points again this week
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Speaking of Liverpool... how likely is Nunez to start against Everton? For some reason, it seems to me that Klopp will give him no more than 30 minutes of playing time in this match (before returning him to duty). By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Jota should also return at the same time.
IMO it depends on who starts tomorrow 🤔 If it's Nunez then it's very likely that Klopp will rotate the squad ahead of the CL game against Napoli so, we could see both Jota and Firmino in the starting XI vs Everton... i believe even Liverpool's B team could beat current everton
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That is why Salah will always be better option than Firminho. Salah will play every single game, Firminho will not. Even if Firminho plays, he has what about one shot per target per 90 minutes while Salah has 4-5? Yes last match was a strange one but I am sure Salah will outscore Firminho by heaps of points before season ends.
I think this is an inappropriate comparison since Firmino will not be in the starting lineup for most of the matches. Speaking of Liverpool... how likely is Nunez to start against Everton? For some reason, it seems to me that Klopp will give him no more than 30 minutes of playing time in this match (before returning him to duty). By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Jota should also return at the same time.
Have no idea what Klopp thinks and did not hear anything about it on the press conferences.

If it was me in Klopp shoes he would start and play full 90 if he is good. It is not like he was injured, he is training 100% this whole time and is more than ready for full game. At the same time fatigue is probably troubling Firminho and maybe even Dias, we all know Salah is a machine.

Jota is unknown, he is the one that will probably start with 20 minutes when he gets back and I am very interested to see on which position will he play as Dias owner.
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That is why Salah will always be better option than Firminho. Salah will play every single game, Firminho will not. Even if Firminho plays, he has what about one shot per target per 90 minutes while Salah has 4-5? Yes last match was a strange one but I am sure Salah will outscore Firminho by heaps of points before season ends.
I think this is an inappropriate comparison since Firmino will not be in the starting lineup for most of the matches. Speaking of Liverpool... how likely is Nunez to start against Everton? For some reason, it seems to me that Klopp will give him no more than 30 minutes of playing time in this match (before returning him to duty). By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Jota should also return at the same time.
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That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls.

So is this actually a better 'strategy' to play this game though for longer term? Removing the non performing players of the week then bring in some top players from last week to haul up few points before ended up bringing in some other players that performs better? or is it just better to keep your points and keep up the potential players?

It's actually harder than just leaving the non performing players for a long term play, because you have to think of the budgets too, if you end up getting short on budget, you'll not be able get certain players after some game weeks, even if you could afford them when the league started, it's very rare to have an all round non-performing players for several weeks, but some are worth having than the others.

It's always about luck sometimes, but taking a calculated risk too increases your chances against every opponent, I really didn't like Salah as my captain for the just concluded week and trust me If I was down on the table and playing to catchup with other managers in the pool, I would have gone with Haaland to be very honest, but I predicted that majority of the managers I'm in contention with would have Salah as their captain, so I'd rather take a risk of having just 6 points together with 85% of managers in the entire pool and 95-100% of managers in the top 7, and then try to outsmart them in other areas of the field, than getting more points in every other area of the field and end up losing them significantly to the captaincy.

To win in the pool I believe every strategy actually matters from knowing when to be conservative and not chasing points blindly when you've got everything to lose, to knowing what your other opponents are likely to go for then you think of alternatives that could be logically better and when you can't think of one, then it's way better to be on the same terms as them until you feel confident about a player(your pick) over theirs, especially based of form and fixtures, it's easier to draw such conclusion based on logic, I guess, you might not always be right, yes, but in the long run, I believe you will stand a better chance.
For me, the most important part of Fantasy strategy is selecting players that are dangerous for opponents goal in every single match. It doesn't matter how many points they scored in particular game week, what matters is their constant presence. Luck will sooner or later end up on your side. That is why Trent, Robertson, Cancelo & James are most expensive defenders, they are playing for teams that will get clean sheets often and all of them are really attacking minded and can get assists or goals against even the thoroughest opponents.

That is why Salah will always be better option than Firminho. Salah will play every single game, Firminho will not. Even if Firminho plays, he has what about one shot per target per 90 minutes while Salah has 4-5? Yes last match was a strange one but I am sure Salah will outscore Firminho by heaps of points before season ends.

After that it comes to what Harkorede said about micro tactics which depend a lot about your current goals and positioning in mini league. I am not even bothering with that until last third of the season. For now it is all about maximizing your points and not taking unnecessary transfers/risks.

You should always look at trends for at least 4-5 game weeks. That includes past performances as well as future fixtures. One game means nothing, you have to have larger scope in order to make informed decisions. For instance everybody was buying Cancelo after first 2 GW and now everybody is selling him after 2 blanks and he plays NFO next, WTF? I would rather place triple captain on him then sell him at this point. Same as it was with Trent and Robbo last week and we all know how that ended.
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That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls.

So is this actually a better 'strategy' to play this game though for longer term? Removing the non performing players of the week then bring in some top players from last week to haul up few points before ended up bringing in some other players that performs better? or is it just better to keep your points and keep up the potential players?

It's actually harder than just leaving the non performing players for a long term play, because you have to think of the budgets too, if you end up getting short on budget, you'll not be able get certain players after some game weeks, even if you could afford them when the league started, it's very rare to have an all round non-performing players for several weeks, but some are worth having than the others.

It's always about luck sometimes, but taking a calculated risk too increases your chances against every opponent, I really didn't like Salah as my captain for the just concluded week and trust me If I was down on the table and playing to catchup with other managers in the pool, I would have gone with Haaland to be very honest, but I predicted that majority of the managers I'm in contention with would have Salah as their captain, so I'd rather take a risk of having just 6 points together with 85% of managers in the entire pool and 95-100% of managers in the top 7, and then try to outsmart them in other areas of the field, than getting more points in every other area of the field and end up losing them significantly to the captaincy.

To win in the pool I believe every strategy actually matters from knowing when to be conservative and not chasing points blindly when you've got everything to lose, to knowing what your other opponents are likely to go for then you think of alternatives that could be logically better and when you can't think of one, then it's way better to be on the same terms as them until you feel confident about a player(your pick) over theirs, especially based of form and fixtures, it's easier to draw such conclusion based on logic, I guess, you might not always be right, yes, but in the long run, I believe you will stand a better chance.
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That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls.

So is this actually a better 'strategy' to play this game though for longer term? Removing the non performing players of the week then bring in some top players from last week to haul up few points before ended up bringing in some other players that performs better? or is it just better to keep your points and keep up the potential players?
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heh, what a 9-0 does to a mf  Grin



now i want him to score a hat-trick in the next match and see everyone's reactions on social media. pandemonium Grin
That is almost like a rule in Fantasy, and those managers that are chasing points always end up doing just that, bringing in the players one week to late or ditching them one week too early and missing on great hauls. You had to be borderline crazy to get rid of Liverpool assets before Bournemouth game. I did not expect 9:0 but clean sheet and result like 4:0 were almost sure thing.

Goals and assists are partly luck, Salah had couple of great chances in that game and they did not go in. On another day he would have scored 2 or 3 goals. That goal against United he scored had much smaller xG than any of these chances and that one went in.



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heh, what a 9-0 does to a mf  Grin



now i want him to score a hat-trick in the next match and see everyone's reactions on social media. pandemonium Grin

Perhaps if Liverpool earn a couple of penalties, but I think it's so much easier for opponents to focus solely on Salah these days and he often doesn't get the needed space to operate, Mane's post effect I'd say.. but with Nunez getting back defenses will have a different problem to handle and Salah will have much more opportunities, but I really might let him go as well, If I can have another consistent player, I'm waiting to be sure of Conte's decision and choices for the long term before opting for Kane or maybe Richarlison, Sterling is starting to provide points and the FPL will also be having a whole lot of other third choice strikers like Isak, Maupay and Anthony so decision making can only get tougher with time and tons of options.
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heh, what a 9-0 does to a mf  Grin



now i want him to score a hat-trick in the next match and see everyone's reactions on social media. pandemonium Grin

Son is probably biggest mistake to have in the team (fortunatelly shipped him out after first round for Haaland)
another premium having a rough start of the season. I went with Kulu instead of Son because of the tight budget, otherwise, i'd probably be here saying goodbye for good to all the top spots in the our league

Now I was writing all this by memory so don't kill me if I am of by a point somewhere but I am quite sure it is all correct.
100% correct.

And in case anyone wants a full breakdown of how player earn points including pens, saves, bonus points, here's a link https://www.premierleague.com/news/2174909
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i see it as a long-term investment,, seeing how salah hasn't been the same since Afcon, and with Darwin nunez still adapting to the EPL, Luis diaz will probably carry this team on his own



I am thinking about leaving out Salah, while he is still on 13, not sure about his season, looking at beginning, it is too much for one player
Son is probably biggest mistake to have in the team (fortunatelly shipped him out after first round for Haaland)

it is getting harder with these mid-week matches, maybe it is a good moment to ship Haaland out for next round, although he brought me 34 points as captain, but that leaves a question who to bring in, with Kane already in my squad, on a 1/1 transfer

Mitrovic is scoring every round, but cannot get more than 7 points, have to learn more about scoring points in FPL
Problem for attackers in FPL is that they get only 4 points for a goal and no points for clean sheet. Midfilders get 5 for goal and 1 point for clean sheet which makes them much more valuable. That is why Salah and De Bruyne are such good options.

Salah with 2 goals will outscore Firminho with 2 goals for a couple of points and will even get more bonus points on avarage.

Defenders get 6 points for goal and 4 points for clean sheet and that is why Trent should be in every FPL squad.

Everybody gets 3 points for assists. Now I was writing all this by memory so don't kill me if I am of by a point somewhere but I am quite sure it is all correct.
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i see it as a long-term investment,, seeing how salah hasn't been the same since Afcon, and with Darwin nunez still adapting to the EPL, Luis diaz will probably carry this team on his own



I am thinking about leaving out Salah, while he is still on 13, not sure about his season, looking at beginning, it is too much for one player
Son is probably biggest mistake to have in the team (fortunatelly shipped him out after first round for Haaland)

it is getting harder with these mid-week matches, maybe it is a good moment to ship Haaland out for next round, although he brought me 34 points as captain, but that leaves a question who to bring in, with Kane already in my squad, on a 1/1 transfer

Mitrovic is scoring every round, but cannot get more than 7 points, have to learn more about scoring points in FPL
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Oh well, it is what it is I guess for the next GW. I hope my entire draft play for the next GW
i see it as a long-term investment,, seeing how salah hasn't been the same since Afcon, and with Darwin nunez still adapting to the EPL, Luis diaz will probably carry this team on his own

"I have chosen City so that I don't have to play 2 matches per week which would have been expected at Real"
⌃ Haaland after saying that:


Haaland after he realizes Man City's fixture next year is packed with premier league games, FA cup, Champions league games and Carabao Cup:

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Now that you mention this, I havent been thinking it that way. Good chances that Pep might rotate some out due to the next one being Nottingham Forest. I wasted my free transfer already, changing gundogan into Luiz Diaz as Gundogan isnt really starting on the team so good chances on the long term that he might not be picking up decent points imo
It is Pep roulette and only reason why most seasoned managers avoid City attack. They are all great players but it just hurts so much seeing them on the bench. If someone is willing to give me good odds I am saying Haaland stays on the bench against NFO, Gundogan starts and has captain band and has at least one attacking return. I'll even spice it a bit extra for extra good odds and Say Alvarez starts and gets attacking return as well Smiley

Even though it will probably steer you away from the bet I proposed, here is a couple of statements that really make you afraid to own Haaland:
*Haaland when signing for City, "I have chosen City so that I don't have to play 2 matches per week which would have been expected at Real"
*Guardiola last week, "Haaland will not play 2 games per week"
*From now on City has 2 games per week, after this week CL starts and I expect Haaland to play CL until they secure knockout stages
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look at Liverpool's fixtures: Newcastle, could be a tough match, then the Merseryside derby, and then a road trip to Napoli, all of that in the span of a week... i had Luis Diaz on my fpl wishlist, but he'll get some rest next week for sure, question is when... maybe Firmino could be a good option, the brazilian proved Klopp he can count on him this season so maybe he'll get more minutes because of the fixture congestion

I see, I was clueless about this and I should have taken the fixture into account so this is where all those mediocre players from other mid table teams come in to play like Harisson because he probably will be playing most of the time in as the club needs him there unlike players on top clubs that might get subbed off for rotation or to preserve their stamina

Oh well, it is what it is I guess for the next GW. I hope my entire draft play for the next GW
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you know it's a tough week when even with Kane (20 pts) and TAA (17pts) you're still going down in the League tables  Cry

They did put a lot of money in the transfer market and jlhave been getting results from it. They still are a threat and could pose some challenge to Manchester City but, I don't find them winning anyway.
Forest have a very exciting squad, but i still believe they're gonna get relagated. I'm getting Fulham vibes from a few seasons ago when they spent tons of money only to go back to the championship 6 months later  Cheesy 

I dont really expect you to not have Haaland on your draft yet, I thought that Haaland is pretty much a main necessity for the striker spot in fantasy
i have Kane and G.Jesus upfront, but i think i can afford haaland, thing is that like @Trofo said, haaland could be benched next week (gonna be a walk in the park against Nott Forest even without haaland or KDB) so i'd be wasting the free transfer + money in the bank and get nothing in return in GW5. We're in one game every 3 days territory now, and with every top team starting to rotate the squad, getting a premium at this stage of the season seems very risky 🤔

Now that you mention this, I havent been thinking it that way. Good chances that Pep might rotate some out due to the next one being Nottingham Forest. I wasted my free transfer already, changing gundogan into Luiz Diaz as Gundogan isnt really starting on the team so good chances on the long term that he might not be picking up decent points imo
look at Liverpool's fixtures: Newcastle, could be a tough match, then the Merseryside derby, and then a road trip to Napoli, all of that in the span of a week... i had Luis Diaz on my fpl wishlist, but he'll get some rest next week for sure, question is when... maybe Firmino could be a good option, the brazilian proved Klopp he can count on him this season so maybe he'll get more minutes because of the fixture congestion
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I dont really expect you to not have Haaland on your draft yet, I thought that Haaland is pretty much a main necessity for the striker spot in fantasy
i have Kane and G.Jesus upfront, but i think i can afford haaland, thing is that like @Trofo said, haaland could be benched next week (gonna be a walk in the park against Nott Forest even without haaland or KDB) so i'd be wasting the free transfer + money in the bank and get nothing in return in GW5. We're in one game every 3 days territory now, and with every top team starting to rotate the squad, getting a premium at this stage of the season seems very risky 🤔

Now that you mention this, I havent been thinking it that way. Good chances that Pep might rotate some out due to the next one being Nottingham Forest. I wasted my free transfer already, changing gundogan into Luiz Diaz as Gundogan isnt really starting on the team so good chances on the long term that he might not be picking up decent points imo
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We are in the same boat, CLS63, my season is more or less over! All the players I switched out had big games and my new squad did not impress at all.. lol
Am right there with you guys. I thought the previous week 3 was going to be my worst as it was for most persons but this past week has proven to be way worse. I would have been better off with my formal team than what I've got now. Wasted my free transfers but, is now looking on a WC option for my team.

I'm still resisting every urge to overhaul my team with the wild card chip, simply because I think it's smarter to make just two transfers every fortnight. And the players which most managers would have expected a lot from at the start off the season have seemingly began to pick up their game expectations, so I want to be sure that I'm not too hasty to rule them out.

If there is anything I'm regretting from this GW is changing my captain from Haaland to Salah, and I really don't know if I'd still be able to trust Salah completely this season, is it Mane's absence having a toll on him ?
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i have Kane and G.Jesus upfront, but i think i can afford haaland, thing is that like @Trofo said, haaland could be benched next week (gonna be a walk in the park against Nott Forest even without haaland or KDB) so i'd be wasting the free transfer + money in the bank and get nothing in return in GW5. We're in one game every 3 days territory now, and with every top team starting to rotate the squad, getting a premium at this stage of the season seems very risky 🤔
Don't be disappointed just yet and I think it'sore risky not getting getting premium players as, the tendency of coach switching for a second team choice is less compared to the usual second team or substitute players.
Again, Nottingham Forest haven't been so bad this season. They did put a lot of money in the transfer market and jlhave been getting results from it. They still are a threat and could pose some challenge to Manchester City but, I don't find them winning anyway.

Havertz
what happened to this guy? only four games so far but he's been useless in all of them,, might be his new haircut, he's been shit after getting that new haircut  Grin
Lol... perhaps it has something to do with his self esteem on the pitch lately which have been off a bit. A little aggressive too but, his surely not making any target shots not to speak of getting the balls.

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We are in the same boat, CLS63, my season is more or less over! All the players I switched out had big games and my new squad did not impress at all.. lol
Am right there with you guys. I thought the previous week 3 was going to be my worst as it was for most persons but this past week has proven to be way worse. I would have been better off with my formal team than what I've got now. Wasted my free transfers but, is now looking on a WC option for my team.
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I dont really expect you to not have Haaland on your draft yet, I thought that Haaland is pretty much a main necessity for the striker spot in fantasy
i have Kane and G.Jesus upfront, but i think i can afford haaland, thing is that like @Trofo said, haaland could be benched next week (gonna be a walk in the park against Nott Forest even without haaland or KDB) so i'd be wasting the free transfer + money in the bank and get nothing in return in GW5. We're in one game every 3 days territory now, and with every top team starting to rotate the squad, getting a premium at this stage of the season seems very risky 🤔

Havertz
what happened to this guy? only four games so far but he's been useless in all of them,, might be his new haircut, he's been shit after getting that new haircut  Grin
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