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Quote from: Fredomago on February 28, 2023, 02:39:22 PM

Quote from: klidex on February 27, 2023, 07:32:48 PM

In fact, a gambler cannot determine and ensure that he really can have a multiplier opportunity like that found in slot games.
However, with the strategy used by gamblers, it can at least increase the possibility of generating multiplication with quite a lot of multiples and we get it successfully.
But all of that is only the second factor because as you said that there is still the luck factor that is expected and in every game or bet you can really win because of the main factor, namely luck.

You can quit with decent winning when luck permits, though what you said is true, there's also strategy aside from luck, things that you already familiarize yourself from your past sessions, strategy that being developed coming from your experienced that adds up to how you base your bets.

Both sports and casino base game there's strategy that each gambler used to find some edge when executing what they've thing that will bring the win that they are aiming.

For me luck is the ultimate and I see it as a sole reason why many persons keep having consistent winning over the time. If we have a good strategy and we don't have a luck, we might be missing opportunities that would make us winning or something might keep making us not to bet on games we have predicted or we got from a good source. I can't count how many games I have missed that was given to me to bet on but I could not bet on them because I was somehow afraid to bet on those games, rather I amended the games and I became the loser because I could not bet on them with my clear eyes.

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Quote from: death69 on February 23, 2023, 03:49:54 PM

I'm all about the small bets when it comes to gamblin. As a sports bettor myself, I always gotta remind myself not to go nuts and stick to my budget. Its so easy to get caught up in the moment, but a reel baller knows when to cashout. One little trick I got is to keep it interesting without breakin' the bank by placing small bets on crazy long-shot outcomes. You know what I'm sayin? Like, I might throw down on some team with crazy odds to win it all, just for the kicks. Its a little game that can pay of bigg time if the stars align. But remember, homie, gamblin's all about the fun and games, not about makin' a livin'. So let's roll the dice and enjoy the ride!!!!

That's not a bad strategy at all, betting small amounts on teams with high odds. If you win only a few of the bets that you've made, you will still be in profit taking out your initial betting amounts from each game you've bet on so far. I will definitely give that a go on sports betting next time I go for it.

And you are right. Gambling is fun when it is taken that way. If you take it as a way of earning an income out of it, that literally takes away the essence of it and it won't be enjoyable after that. So it's better to just take it the way it should be taken and enjoy it while you can.

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Quote from: klidex on February 27, 2023, 07:32:48 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 26, 2023, 09:16:14 AM

That's what we call luck, but you don't have that every time so I can also say that what if you didn't got that chance to win that multiplier? but it's all about how you see your opportunities and how you believe with the strategy that you are using, then plus the luck factor that most of the time gambler always hope that it will back them up.

In fact, a gambler cannot determine and ensure that he really can have a multiplier opportunity like that found in slot games.
However, with the strategy used by gamblers, it can at least increase the possibility of generating multiplication with quite a lot of multiples and we get it successfully.
But all of that is only the second factor because as you said that there is still the luck factor that is expected and in every game or bet you can really win because of the main factor, namely luck.

You can quit with decent winning when luck permits, though what you said is true, there's also strategy aside from luck, things that you already familiarize yourself from your past sessions, strategy that being developed coming from your experienced that adds up to how you base your bets.

Both sports and casino base game there's strategy that each gambler used to find some edge when executing what they've thing that will bring the win that they are aiming.

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Quote from: klidex on February 27, 2023, 07:32:48 PM

In fact, a gambler cannot determine and ensure that he really can have a multiplier opportunity like that found in slot games.

For me there is no strategy whatsoever that can be done to play slots, because its works by the machine, not our brains. We only bet, the rest is machines or programs (online slots).

Quote from: klidex on February 27, 2023, 07:32:48 PM

However, with the strategy used by gamblers, it can at least increase the possibility of generating multiplication with quite a lot of multiples and we get it successfully.
But all of that is only the second factor because as you said that there is still the luck factor that is expected and in every game or bet you can really win because of the main factor, namely luck.

Strategy is needed if we bet on something we can analyze, such as football, election betting and so on. Even though in the end traditional gambling still ends in "luck" as you said is playing the role, but analysis becomes a support in order to minimize loses, and the analysis will become a strategy for us. For a game like a poker, we can do a strategy, when we need to fold, raise or check, since we have a card that need to be compared. We can't follow anyone that making all in all the time, but we need to hold before join to all in with good cards. IMO

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 26, 2023, 09:16:14 AM

That's what we call luck, but you don't have that every time so I can also say that what if you didn't got that chance to win that multiplier? but it's all about how you see your opportunities and how you believe with the strategy that you are using, then plus the luck factor that most of the time gambler always hope that it will back them up.

In fact, a gambler cannot determine and ensure that he really can have a multiplier opportunity like that found in slot games.
However, with the strategy used by gamblers, it can at least increase the possibility of generating multiplication with quite a lot of multiples and we get it successfully.
But all of that is only the second factor because as you said that there is still the luck factor that is expected and in every game or bet you can really win because of the main factor, namely luck.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 27, 2023, 05:49:37 AM

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The thing is that for many people, myself included, gambling without earning anything significant, or even losing a bit of your money, is not wasting of time. We use gambling for entertainment and relaxation, not for income generation. Hence the formula: the longer you last with the money allocated for gambling the better.

It's not always like that, of course. Every gambler knows that there are times when you can't stop, and you keep betting, and you feel exhausted in the end, and some money lost on top of that, and stuff. But with those gambling for fun this happens much less often than with those playing for profit.

There is a difference between games and gambling though...

The element of potential winning a lot of money is a huge element of gambling, that is not present in games in general.

Gaming is probably even more popular than gambling, but it still generates less revenue for the companies, because a gambler can lose so much more money in the same amount of time than a gamer.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 23, 2023, 05:34:14 PM

Quote from: fullhdpixel on February 23, 2023, 02:50:08 PM

Betting small is the only way to last long in the game.

Why would you care about lasting long in gambling at all? That's a strange goal to have.

I'd much rather lose $100 in a minute, than keep playing whatever game for say a couple of days and lose the same amount - because then I'd also lose a lot of time, and you can't buy or win that back.

The thing is that for many people, myself included, gambling without earning anything significant, or even losing a bit of your money, is not wasting of time. We use gambling for entertainment and relaxation, not for income generation. Hence the formula: the longer you last with the money allocated for gambling the better.

It's not always like that, of course. Every gambler knows that there are times when you can't stop, and you keep betting, and you feel exhausted in the end, and some money lost on top of that, and stuff. But with those gambling for fun this happens much less often than with those playing for profit.

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Quote from: Reid on February 26, 2023, 09:10:21 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on February 23, 2023, 05:34:14 PM

Quote from: fullhdpixel on February 23, 2023, 02:50:08 PM

Betting small is the only way to last long in the game.

Why would you care about lasting long in gambling at all? That's a strange goal to have.

I'd much rather lose $100 in a minute, than keep playing whatever game for say a couple of days and lose the same amount - because then I'd also lose a lot of time, and you can't buy or win that back.

It works with games that have jackpots. i.e. Slots, Plinko, Keno, and more. If you notice, most streamers don't put above $10 bet in slots that's because they need to last long to see the jackpot from happening especially if it is their money-making strategy for more viewers to come.
The other reason is aiming to hit the higher multiplier by betting small. Months ago I hit x130 in slots with a capital of $100 betting for $1 each bet.
I am still halfway my capital so I got $180 in total. $50 in 50 games may have been gone but I got it back in just one lucky roll. So, imagine if I put the $100 in just one roll.

That's what we call luck, but you don't have that every time so I can also say that what if you didn't got that chance to win that multiplier? but it's all about how you see your opportunities and how you believe with the strategy that you are using, then plus the luck factor that most of the time gambler always hope that it will back them up.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 23, 2023, 05:34:14 PM

Quote from: fullhdpixel on February 23, 2023, 02:50:08 PM

Betting small is the only way to last long in the game.

Why would you care about lasting long in gambling at all? That's a strange goal to have.

I'd much rather lose $100 in a minute, than keep playing whatever game for say a couple of days and lose the same amount - because then I'd also lose a lot of time, and you can't buy or win that back.

It works with games that have jackpots. i.e. Slots, Plinko, Keno, and more. If you notice, most streamers don't put above $10 bet in slots that's because they need to last long to see the jackpot from happening especially if it is their money-making strategy for more viewers to come.
The other reason is aiming to hit the higher multiplier by betting small. Months ago I hit x130 in slots with a capital of $100 betting for $1 each bet.
I am still halfway my capital so I got $180 in total. $50 in 50 games may have been gone but I got it back in just one lucky roll. So, imagine if I put the $100 in just one roll.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 25, 2023, 06:05:04 PM

Quote from: len01 on February 25, 2023, 05:58:55 PM

Quote from: nullama on February 24, 2023, 09:59:39 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on February 24, 2023, 06:36:10 PM

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Wealthy, drunk guys in a playful mood are every casino's favuorite type of customer

They don't even need to be wealthy, they just need to have access to money.

It can be money from their clients, it can be a loan, etc.

Someone that is wealthy will probably not go to the casino to spend lots of money

but in reality many rich people enter the casino drunk and spend their money in the casino.

It is true that many rich people who have got income coming from different streams to have relaxation and entertain themselves prefer casinos and partying. This is with the business people who are rich and the losses doesn't affect their personal living.

With the wealthy people the preference is different. Certain group of wealthier people prefer spending on horse racing. In a horse race we won't be able to see rich people, those are wealthier people. Some even cater their own horse and prepare for the race.

Rich people don't think spending money for their leisure time is a waste of money because money is no big deal if they find their happiness somewhere. Moreover, the casino has enough facilities to enjoy themself. A rich gambler has no shortage of money when he loses a bet. Even if they are sitting at home, they continue to earn, so they will not be compared to a general gambler. They can do whatever they want for their entertainment.

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Quote from: nullama on February 25, 2023, 09:50:15 PM

And I reckon the vast majority of wealthy people know better than that. Otherwise they probably wouldn't have been able to generate that wealth in the first place.

Of course there are exceptions though...

And if this wealth he inherited and the player only spends it losing on bets? Then this statement here will be difficult to apply. ) I have seen a lot of different, sometimes very strange strategies, I think that the most important thing is that it be working for the person who uses it. If it brings results, then he understands it and knows how to use it, but this does not mean that it will work just as well for everyone else.

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- Maybe the only ones who will stop gambling like that are the gamblers who have a lot of money and are strong-willed because the risk is very high for an ordinary gambler like me if I participate in such a system that exists just to be honest.

But I can't deny that he is also attractive to tell you frankly, maybe if I have a lot of money I can probably gamble with the same trend that there is in gambling.

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Quote from: len01 on February 25, 2023, 05:58:55 PM

Quote from: nullama on February 24, 2023, 09:59:39 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on February 24, 2023, 06:36:10 PM

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Wealthy, drunk guys in a playful mood are every casino's favuorite type of customer

They don't even need to be wealthy, they just need to have access to money.

It can be money from their clients, it can be a loan, etc.

Someone that is wealthy will probably not go to the casino to spend lots of money

but in reality many rich people enter the casino drunk and spend their money in the casino.

Yeah, but you can't repeat that many times, because then they won't be rich any more Grin

And I reckon the vast majority of wealthy people know better than that. Otherwise they probably wouldn't have been able to generate that wealth in the first place.

Of course there are exceptions though...

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Quote from: len01 on February 25, 2023, 05:58:55 PM

Quote from: nullama on February 24, 2023, 09:59:39 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on February 24, 2023, 06:36:10 PM

~snip~
Wealthy, drunk guys in a playful mood are every casino's favuorite type of customer

They don't even need to be wealthy, they just need to have access to money.

It can be money from their clients, it can be a loan, etc.

Someone that is wealthy will probably not go to the casino to spend lots of money

but in reality many rich people enter the casino drunk and spend their money in the casino.

It is true that many rich people who have got income coming from different streams to have relaxation and entertain themselves prefer casinos and partying. This is with the business people who are rich and the losses doesn't affect their personal living.

With the wealthy people the preference is different. Certain group of wealthier people prefer spending on horse racing. In a horse race we won't be able to see rich people, those are wealthier people. Some even cater their own horse and prepare for the race.

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Quote from: nullama on February 24, 2023, 09:59:39 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on February 24, 2023, 06:36:10 PM

~snip~
Wealthy, drunk guys in a playful mood are every casino's favuorite type of customer

They don't even need to be wealthy, they just need to have access to money.

It can be money from their clients, it can be a loan, etc.

Someone that is wealthy will probably not go to the casino to spend lots of money

but in reality many rich people enter the casino drunk and spend their money in the casino.

and although the rich man will lose in the casino while drunk, it will not diminish his wealth.
because they are already rich and they certainly know how to recover the money that has been lost. and I'm sure rich people who go to the casino drunk must have thought of all the plans before getting drunk and going to the casino.
so that when he loses at the casino he loses all the money he brought to the casino, but he still has a lot of money in his savings.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 24, 2023, 05:46:05 PM

Bet big or small, that's different for everyone. Both large and small bets have advantages and disadvantages. But there are also people who are really playing with a lot of money. People who really play for fun, I don't think they even think about a particular strategy. And in the end you have to realize and realize that no strategy is watertight. No strategy gives guarantees of winning chances in the end. It can go well for a long time, even with odds of 1.01 or even 1.001, but sooner or later things go wrong. Then you have spent a lot. Layen of 3-3, many players have also started working and all went under.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 24, 2023, 06:36:10 PM

~snip~
Wealthy, drunk guys in a playful mood are every casino's favuorite type of customer

They don't even need to be wealthy, they just need to have access to money.

It can be money from their clients, it can be a loan, etc.

Someone that is wealthy will probably not go to the casino to spend lots of money

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 24, 2023, 05:46:05 PM

But there are also people who are really playing with a lot of money. People who really play for fun, I don't think they even think about a particular strategy.

Wealthy, drunk guys in a playful mood are every casino's favuorite type of customer

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 24, 2023, 05:46:05 PM

And in the end you have to realize and realize that no strategy is watertight.

That's true for classic casino games, but technically possible for sports betting, i.e. by doing arbitrage betting, but that would get you banned eventually.

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Bet big or small, that's different for everyone. Both large and small bets have advantages and disadvantages. But there are also people who are really playing with a lot of money. People who really play for fun, I don't think they even think about a particular strategy. And in the end you have to realize and realize that no strategy is watertight. No strategy gives guarantees of winning chances in the end. It can go well for a long time, even with odds of 1.01 or even 1.001, but sooner or later things go wrong. Then you have spent a lot. Layen of 3-3, many players have also started working and all went under.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on February 23, 2023, 02:50:08 PM

Betting small is the only way to last long in the game.

Why would you care about lasting long in gambling at all? That's a strange goal to have.

I'd much rather lose $100 in a minute, than keep playing whatever game for say a couple of days and lose the same amount - because then I'd also lose a lot of time, and you can't buy or win that back.

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