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Topic: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 - page 37. (Read 41048 times)

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Gerald Davis
For the record though KNC decision to use a case which requires the PSU to be outside is equally stupid. 

I think that might have more to do with regulations in the EU about selling stuff that plugs into a wall socket than it is about the proper management of heat inside the case.

Nobody said include a power supply.  We are simply talking the exact same sheet metal case but wider.  The silliest part is the stated design was for rackmounting however the case isn't standard rackmount width (19").  So it is smaller than what is needed for room to house a PSU and due to its size it can't be rackmounted without a shelf.  If it was a 4U 19" rackmount case there would be more than enough room for a PSU and it would rackmount directly.

Personally I see the semi-useless case as a waste of money.  If you are going to use a worthless case design then just drop the case.  Simply ship the hashing boards and control board and let the user supply the case.
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must mean they are out of money..... need to do another presale to stay afloat

This is exactly what I thought reading their announcement. Will be interesteing how many fishes they catch on this
legendary
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Christian Antkow
banking and wire fraud......  just wait and see!

 DING DING DING ! This one gets it !
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Based on their track record, we wont see a working prototype this year.

This card might ship sometime next year, probably wont hit that power figure,
and might only just cover ROI at that price.

Do you really wish to tie up funds for so long?

There are a lot of ASIC vendors now, and prices are coming down.

I think the era of pre-orders is coming to an end, they need another business model.









legendary
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For the record though KNC decision to use a case which requires the PSU to be outside is equally stupid. 

I think that might have more to do with regulations in the EU about selling stuff that plugs into a wall socket than it is about the proper management of heat inside the case.
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We've been in hard development for approximately six months.  We're now we're in the final stage of the process which is wafer start at the foundry.  However, we aren't shipping anytime soon.  This is a Pre-Order product, so if you're uncomfortable waiting an indeterminate length of time for the final phase of development, do NOT pre-order this product.With that in mind, our current schedule is on track for shippments towards end of year.  

I love this one. ..  6 months ago they say!  They didn't even have their first set bumped by then let alone packaged and tested

The copy I've been reading is filled with grammatical errors. If only they had Josh proofread the copy prior to publishing, it'll make better sense. Then again, perhaps they're putting more time in their copy than in their 28nm ASIC design.
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Why should I place my Pre-Order with Butterfly Labs?
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Butterfly Labs is the pioneer and has remained the leader of the bitcoin mining hardware industry since 2011.  We are the only 28nm hardware manufacturer with a proven ASIC design.  We have 45 employees, a mature production capacity and supply chain.   Our 28nm competitors have never deliverd a single product.  Their manufacturing, supply chain and engineering are all back of the napkin ideas.
 
Shipped more ASIC than all competitors combined <~~ do they not consider ASICMiner and Friedcat the competition?


when will this ponzi finally crumble?   soon since they are taking wire transfers....  banking and wire fraud......  just wait and see!
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Christian Antkow
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Gerald Davis
We are talking about "efficiency" here my friend.

PCI is just perfect (from the average joe with some mobo to datacenter guys with cabinet)
No more exotic stuff.

So do this as an experiment.  Take a 4U case* and put 3x 7970s inside.  Max them out and start mining.  That would use less power than 2 of these mining cards.  Now tell me how easy it is to keep the temps under control.  There is a reason people starting using extenders and ghetto rigs.  More than 800W or so 24/7 inside a sealed case is pretty tough to keep under control without liquid cooling.

For the record though KNC decision to use a case which requires the PSU to be outside is equally stupid.  The stupidest part is if they used a larger case there would be more than enough room for an internally mounted case.

* If you don't have a 4U case a full tower is roughly the same size so turn it on its side and it is a good enough estimate for this experiment.  However make sure you seal any side/top/bottom vents as those wouldn't exist in a rackmount case.  Just cool it using fans at the front and back of the case and on the GPU only.
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Meh, upgraded a late-ordered single to this, will be interesting to see how it pans out.....



You will get years of entertainment out of this purchase. Caveat: it may be our entertainment  Cheesy

*slow clap*
Brilliant
legendary
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Thats the hag thats been making wise ass remarks and nonsensical bullshit blogs on their website? SHES THAT MUCH OLDER?
From her remarks I thought she was like 20 judging.

She's 63. Seriously!
legendary
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Meh, upgraded a late-ordered single to this, will be interesting to see how it pans out.....

You will get years of entertainment out of this purchase. Caveat: it may be our entertainment  Cheesy
legendary
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Marc Goodpasture ran parts for a tractor outfit in Kansas, Jeff Ownby own's a barn in Illinois, Josh is an Ass, Jody raises chickens, and BFL's warehouse if full of migrant workers. If I were a funny guy, I would make a joke of these facts.
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Look at that beauty !
PCI !!!
Yeah !!!

Meanwhile KNC show us a cheap refurb case....ROFL...

GO BFL !!! GO !!!

The aesthetics of the case is literally the last thing I care about in a bitcoin miner.  I guess it all depends if you want one to mine bitcoins or to show off to friends and dinner guests?

We are talking about "efficiency" here my friend.

PCI is just perfect (from the average joe with some mobo to datacenter guys with cabinet)
No more exotic stuff.

No I want my Cryoniks!

https://cryoniks.com/
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Crypto is King.
BFL has delivered only 11% of their queue.

They are offering credit swaps for ppl who havent recived their units for a 10% fee

They are offering pre-sales for this new product after clearly stating "Chip development is traditionally a 12 month process"

Draw your own conclusions

This will be worst than 2012 preorders
Let the MEMEs BEGIN!!!!
legendary
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Christian Antkow
Joshua got his widdle feewings hurt and has completely banned me from his forum. I'm so sad.

  Welcome to the club. You're amongst friends.
legendary
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Meh, upgraded a late-ordered single to this, will be interesting to see how it pans out.....
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Look at that beauty !
PCI !!!
Yeah !!!

Meanwhile KNC show us a cheap refurb case....ROFL...

GO BFL !!! GO !!!

The aesthetics of the case is literally the last thing I care about in a bitcoin miner.  I guess it all depends if you want one to mine bitcoins or to show off to friends and dinner guests?

We are talking about "efficiency" here my friend.

PCI is just perfect (from the average joe with some mobo to datacenter guys with cabinet)
No more exotic stuff.
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Gerald Davis
Wonder that the plan will be if it ends up being 2-3 times that size. You'll need a whole pc just to run one.

Maybe the final product will look more like this (but with some extra fans bolted on).  Maybe someone can do some fun with photoshop.



Well no that really isn't realistic as the GPU in the picture maxes out at 240W not 350W.
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If you are an existing pre-order I recommend you hold on to it. The queue for the current tech is about to get a whole lot shorter, meaning you will get an actual product earlier.
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Quite possibly time for another...

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