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Topic: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 - page 38. (Read 41048 times)

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Joshua got his widdle feewings hurt and has completely banned me from his forum. I'm so sad.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
I don't know about you guys, but I believe him.
He has to be right about something eventually.

 "Even a stopped clock, tells the right time twice a day"
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Mine Silent, Mine Deep
I'm afraid this is simply a money grab.

BFL gets extra funds and buys additional time by rolling over delivery dates to a new product line. Given their track record I won't touch this with a 10 foot pole.

If you are an existing current gen pre-order I recommend you hold on to it. The queue for the current tech is about to get a whole lot shorter, meaning you will get an actual product earlier.
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BFL has delivered only 11% of their queue.

They are offering credit swaps for ppl who havent recived their units for a 10% fee

They are offering pre-sales for this new product after clearly stating "Chip development is traditionally a 12 month process"

Draw your own conclusions

This will be worst than 2012 preorders
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Buy, sell and store real cryptocurrencies
Awesome news!!!!!  Where do I sign up!!!

Cheesy
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The estimated power consumption report here has a significant error margin included.

Mr. Ghoseiri. I hope I'm not being too forward by making the recommendation that you remove your present mouthpiece, with extreme prejudice, if you have any hope to gain back any trust and business of this community.


No way. No way would it be as entertaining. Xian you'd regret saying that. You'd miss him. He's been like the Iraqi information minister. The excuses have been wild.
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I wonder that the plan will be if it ends up being 2-3 times that size. You'll need a whole pc just to run one.
sr. member
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blah blah blah power consumption

Regards,
Nasser

I don't know about you guys, but I believe him.
He has to be right about something eventually.
Like a weatherman
legendary
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blah blah blah power consumption

Regards,
Nasser

I don't know about you guys, but I believe him.
He has to be right about something eventually.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
The estimated power consumption report here has a significant error margin included.

 Mr. Ghoseiri. I hope I'm not being too forward by making the recommendation that you remove your present mouthpiece, with extreme prejudice, if you have any hope to gain back any trust and business of this community.

 Otherwise...

 *mumbles something about a bag of dicks and gluttony*
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Really?  Why would it be PCIex16.  I get the idea of making it PCIe so using standard motherboards to densely rackmount.  By why PCIex16?  Using a x1 slot would allow more cards per mother board.
People still have those riser cable from GPU mining rigs Grin

PCIE x1 would work fine with riser cables.  BTW it appears it is PCIe x1 their photoshop artist just doesn't know what that looks like.

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3 of these cards will make it 1.8T,  almost 1000x faster than a 2.1GH 3x5970 rig, is it really possible? Both 28nm tech, why kncminer consumes 1KW for 400GH while they can make it 4x more efficient???

BFL has been pretty consistently wrong about power consumption.  Every estimate of every product has been low and later revised to more realistic power consumption numbers.  Of course this has also resulted in numerous delays, incorrect parts, and redesigns too.

KNC simply says less than 1KW.    

Exactly  Wink  It will end up overpower & underhashrate + the delays  Roll Eyes  NO THANKS BFL .!..

Hey Nasser,you were wrong before on power/hashrate...you'll be wrong again.BFL has been wrong twice,FPGA & 1st gen ASIC........They will be wrong again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Id rather have a 25ghs little single today.....
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper

The preorder BS has run its course. They need to have product in hand before selling it. Don't fall for their broken business model structured to screw you the customer.
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Dear BFL Labs,   I'm still waiting for a little single, single, and Jalapeno that I ordered over a year ago.  Just FOAD.  Thanks.
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Really?  Why would it be PCIex16.  I get the idea of making it PCIe so using standard motherboards to densely rackmount.  By why PCIex16?  Using a x1 slot would allow more cards per mother board.
People still have those riser cable from GPU mining rigs Grin

PCIE x1 would work fine with riser cables.  BTW it appears it is PCIe x1 their photoshop artist just doesn't know what that looks like.

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3 of these cards will make it 1.8T,  almost 1000x faster than a 2.1GH 3x5970 rig, is it really possible? Both 28nm tech, why kncminer consumes 1KW for 400GH while they can make it 4x more efficient???

BFL has been pretty consistently wrong about power consumption.  Every estimate of every product has been low and later revised to more realistic power consumption numbers.  Of course this has also resulted in numerous delays, incorrect parts, and redesigns too.

KNC simply says less than 1KW.   

Regarding power consumption, the actual 65nm consumes 3.1W/GH when operating at 950mV Core voltage (which also reduces speed). In the new chip, we've optimized and improved the design on one hand, on the other hand we're jumping down two nodes. The result of each node jump alone reduces power consumption between 40% to 60%, depending on the application and architecture.

The estimated power consumption report here has a significant error margin included.

Regards,
Nasser
legendary
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Christian Antkow
Quite possibly time for another...

Public Service Announcement:

If you have ordered from Butterfly Labs (BFL) and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).

First ask Butterfly Labs (BFL) for one, they will probably say no but you might get lucky.
If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. One customer has already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.

If you ordered via BTC or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC and they will advocate for you with Butterfly Labs (BFL) to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product delivered for months, just more promises.

There are also several threads on how to get a refund from Butterfly Labs (BFL), here are two:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yes-you-can-get-a-refund-from-bfl-266945
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/butterfly-labs-did-everything-they-could-to-make-getting-a-refund-impossible-272585
legendary
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I'd fight Gandhi.

*screams like a little girl*
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Someone should let them know their mockup photo doesn't match that description.  That is clearly a x16 edge connector.

But they deliverd!
sr. member
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Look at that beauty !
PCI !!!
Yeah !!!

Meanwhile KNC show us a cheap refurb case....ROFL...

GO BFL !!! GO !!!

The aesthetics of the case is literally the last thing I care about in a bitcoin miner.  I guess it all depends if you want one to mine bitcoins or to show off to friends and dinner guests?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
So much lie on this webpage. I don't know where to start.

This is exactly what I was just thinking. Did you get to Q&A section yet? It's such a huge pile of shit to poke through

Thanks! For a second there I thought I was the only one.
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