The owner of BFL, is using some TOP class scamming methods.
Agreed. This hosting offer looks really fishy.
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Agreed. This hosting offer looks really fishy.
For more information on farming in Kansas, view the official Butterfly Labs FAQ on hosting:
What is "Hosting" and how do I setup my order to be"Heisted" "Hosted"?
http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/
What is "Hosting" and how do I setup my order to be
http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/
WTF HOSTED.
They are just mining bitcoins on our hardware. Expect them to start shipping in early 2014 after they have finished mining all the coins.
For more information on farming in Kansas, view the official Butterfly Labs FAQ on hosting:
What is "Hosting" and how do I setup my order to be"Heisted" "Hosted"?
http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/
What is "Hosting" and how do I setup my order to be
http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/
That's a good news 
The owner of BFL, is using some TOP class scamming methods.
People don't realise it because they think BFL is a massive company which won't get away with it.
Well, guys I HATE to break it to you, they have got away with a lot.
They have been stalling for MONTHS now.
Come july, I wouldn't be surprised if no one receives anything from them, oh wait I can imagine them sending a email stating they are sorry and will have to stall another couple of months.
If, people receive their items, then I will be glad.
But, they have already did the damage by delaying for months on end.
Anyway, for the people who ordered, I wish you good luck.
People don't realise it because they think BFL is a massive company which won't get away with it.
Well, guys I HATE to break it to you, they have got away with a lot.
They have been stalling for MONTHS now.
Come july, I wouldn't be surprised if no one receives anything from them, oh wait I can imagine them sending a email stating they are sorry and will have to stall another couple of months.
If, people receive their items, then I will be glad.
But, they have already did the damage by delaying for months on end.
Anyway, for the people who ordered, I wish you good luck.
From Butterfly Labs website:
"Your hosted units will be added to a mining farm and you will be paid out regularly based on their collective output. Currently, the payout is approximately every two days, depending on luck. As difficulty increases, payout times may get longer or the payout threshold may be reduced to bring it back to every 2 days or so.
Your equipment will be housed in one of three data centers in the Kansas City area (With a 4th coming online in the next 6 months). Each center is guarded by multiple security procedures, including biometric identification, key card access, elevator lock outs and human verification. Fire suppression and notification are present in all datacenters. Redundant power is provided by a generator and for an additional fee can be provided by battery as a UPS.
Hosted units will be maintained by a BFL representative should a failure occur and replacement/repair is usually conducted the same day. There is no cost for repair/replacement of failed units that are under warranty."
Perhaps this explains where the output of their production mainly headed ... for secret mining farms in Kansas. If we are lucky ordinary folk may start receiving after October when difficulty rates make mining barely worthwhile except for mining farms. Then the tornado hit and the girl was whisked away from the mining farm into a magical land, met a lion, a tin-man and a scarecrow ... and sought out the Wizard of Asic.
"Your hosted units will be added to a mining farm and you will be paid out regularly based on their collective output. Currently, the payout is approximately every two days, depending on luck. As difficulty increases, payout times may get longer or the payout threshold may be reduced to bring it back to every 2 days or so.
Your equipment will be housed in one of three data centers in the Kansas City area (With a 4th coming online in the next 6 months). Each center is guarded by multiple security procedures, including biometric identification, key card access, elevator lock outs and human verification. Fire suppression and notification are present in all datacenters. Redundant power is provided by a generator and for an additional fee can be provided by battery as a UPS.
Hosted units will be maintained by a BFL representative should a failure occur and replacement/repair is usually conducted the same day. There is no cost for repair/replacement of failed units that are under warranty."
Perhaps this explains where the output of their production mainly headed ... for secret mining farms in Kansas. If we are lucky ordinary folk may start receiving after October when difficulty rates make mining barely worthwhile except for mining farms. Then the tornado hit and the girl was whisked away from the mining farm into a magical land, met a lion, a tin-man and a scarecrow ... and sought out the Wizard of Asic.
That makes perfect sense. Miners paid the costs of building ASICs for Butterfly Labs. Butterfly Labs will squeeze everything from devices. When it won't be that profitable anymore, Butterfly Labs will ship them to miners. 100% Legal. Nice move, BL, really smart. Applause.
From Butterfly Labs website:
"Your hosted units will be added to a mining farm and you will be paid out regularly based on their collective output. Currently, the payout is approximately every two days, depending on luck. As difficulty increases, payout times may get longer or the payout threshold may be reduced to bring it back to every 2 days or so.
Your equipment will be housed in one of three data centers in the Kansas City area (With a 4th coming online in the next 6 months). Each center is guarded by multiple security procedures, including biometric identification, key card access, elevator lock outs and human verification. Fire suppression and notification are present in all datacenters. Redundant power is provided by a generator and for an additional fee can be provided by battery as a UPS.
Hosted units will be maintained by a BFL representative should a failure occur and replacement/repair is usually conducted the same day. There is no cost for repair/replacement of failed units that are under warranty."
Perhaps this explains where the output of their production mainly headed ... for secret mining farms in Kansas. If we are lucky ordinary folk may start receiving after October when difficulty rates make mining barely worthwhile except for mining farms. Then the tornado hit and the girl was whisked away from the mining farm into a magical land, met a lion, a tin-man and a scarecrow ... and sought out the Wizard of Asic.
"Your hosted units will be added to a mining farm and you will be paid out regularly based on their collective output. Currently, the payout is approximately every two days, depending on luck. As difficulty increases, payout times may get longer or the payout threshold may be reduced to bring it back to every 2 days or so.
Your equipment will be housed in one of three data centers in the Kansas City area (With a 4th coming online in the next 6 months). Each center is guarded by multiple security procedures, including biometric identification, key card access, elevator lock outs and human verification. Fire suppression and notification are present in all datacenters. Redundant power is provided by a generator and for an additional fee can be provided by battery as a UPS.
Hosted units will be maintained by a BFL representative should a failure occur and replacement/repair is usually conducted the same day. There is no cost for repair/replacement of failed units that are under warranty."
Perhaps this explains where the output of their production mainly headed ... for secret mining farms in Kansas. If we are lucky ordinary folk may start receiving after October when difficulty rates make mining barely worthwhile except for mining farms. Then the tornado hit and the girl was whisked away from the mining farm into a magical land, met a lion, a tin-man and a scarecrow ... and sought out the Wizard of Asic.
mah I think it's still a scam ....
Shipping new evidence?
My money is on the new Terahash in California...bet they'll ship before pre-order two...maybe before pre-order one fully gets out from BFL.
Website?
Good old BFL I'm so glad I didn't fall for this one!
My money is on the new Terahash in California...bet they'll ship before pre-order two...maybe before pre-order one fully gets out from BFL.
Delivery depends on when you ordered. Best-case scenario is they start shipping mid-May. They are estimated to have about 20,000 paid non-cancelled orders. If we suppose a mean of 2 pieces per real order, that's 40,000 pieces total. They have publicly claimed their production line can produce 400 pieces per day, 5 days a week, so 2000 pieces per week. Let's take that on "faith" and assume it will take them 20 weeks to clear the backlog. So an order placed today would ship in October at the earliest. But that's the best-case scenario.
People thinking about ordering now need to read this part several times over. They arent even close to manufacturing 400 a week yet, that was purely speculation on their part, not likely an accurate estimate.
How are you so optimist? I don't expect my early orders to show up before 2014. And this is based on past history.
Delivery depends on when you ordered. Best-case scenario is they start shipping mid-May. They are estimated to have about 20,000 paid non-cancelled orders. If we suppose a mean of 2 pieces per real order, that's 40,000 pieces total. They have publicly claimed their production line can produce 400 pieces per day, 5 days a week, so 2000 pieces per week. Let's take that on "faith" and assume it will take them 20 weeks to clear the backlog. So an order placed today would ship in October at the earliest. But that's the best-case scenario.
People thinking about ordering now need to read this part several times over. They arent even close to manufacturing 400 a week yet, that was purely speculation on their part, not likely an accurate estimate.
Man, i love to see the title of this topic, "BFL is shipping"
It sounds like Jesus Christ is coming to visit you
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It sounds like Jesus Christ is coming to visit you
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LOL just LOL
Can we stop the devolution into pedantry?
Yes, they are technically shipping.
No, they're still not shipping in any meaningful volume, and that's annoying.
Next point?
Yes, they are technically shipping.
No, they're still not shipping in any meaningful volume, and that's annoying.
Next point?
No the title needs to be changed , that's not true BFL is not shipping.. They "might" be shipping the ASIC that some special people (like some "famous" bloggers) ordered months ago but that's all. If you order now , don't expect to get you thing before next September, so no , i don't call it shipping and that's why i did not order.
By the time you receive your asic the difficulty might already be so high it would be totally useless
By the time you receive your asic the difficulty might already be so high it would be totally useless
Technically, they are shipping. Whether you are pleased with the subset of customers to whom their shipping is a different issue entirely.
Stockholm syndrome is very common among BFL customers. Hope you are enjoying your unit, mate. Happy hashing!
They haven't started shipping singles yet.
No the title needs to be changed , that's not true BFL is not shipping.. They "might" be shipping the ASIC that some special people (like some "famous" bloggers) ordered months ago but that's all. If you order now , don't expect to get you thing before next September, so no , i don't call it shipping and that's why i did not order.
By the time you receive your asic the difficulty might already be so high it would be totally useless
By the time you receive your asic the difficulty might already be so high it would be totally useless
Technically, they are shipping. Whether you are pleased with the subset of customers to whom their shipping is a different issue entirely.
Stockholm syndrome is very common among BFL customers. Hope you are enjoying your unit, mate. Happy hashing!
No the title needs to be changed , that's not true BFL is not shipping.. They "might" be shipping the ASIC that some special people (like some "famous" bloggers) ordered months ago but that's all. If you order now , don't expect to get you thing before next September, so no , i don't call it shipping and that's why i did not order.
By the time you receive your asic the difficulty might already be so high it would be totally useless
By the time you receive your asic the difficulty might already be so high it would be totally useless
Technically, they are shipping. Whether you are pleased with the subset of customers to whom their shipping is a different issue entirely.
BFL josh update says they have only shipped 35 jalapenos out as of 5/6/2013. 175ghash/s. And half of that 175ghash/s went to customers, other went to bloggers / promoters.
So the game has changed a little bit: Avalon Batch #2 should start shipping this month, ASICMINER prices for boards will drop a little bit and they ship ASAP, BFL should start shipping now, however they will ship slowly until end of May/June/July. Avalon Batch #4 45GH/s should start taking pre-orders this month or next. I want to note Avalon is late on trade-in orders, Batch #2 shipping and Batch #3 shipping (may 5th). lets hope they are not as late as BFL LOL
So the game has changed a little bit: Avalon Batch #2 should start shipping this month, ASICMINER prices for boards will drop a little bit and they ship ASAP, BFL should start shipping now, however they will ship slowly until end of May/June/July. Avalon Batch #4 45GH/s should start taking pre-orders this month or next. I want to note Avalon is late on trade-in orders, Batch #2 shipping and Batch #3 shipping (may 5th). lets hope they are not as late as BFL LOL
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