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Topic: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates - page 6. (Read 32528 times)

sr. member
Activity: 379
Merit: 250
June 01, 2014, 04:40:00 PM
I got my 30-45 day email, here's to hoping the idiots do not go belly-up before that. They truly out did themselves this time, hell they are even making KNC look competent.  Grin
full member
Activity: 242
Merit: 100
Blockchain-based Financial Ecosystem
June 01, 2014, 03:12:13 PM
I just emailed them asking for a refund. Said I want to have my money within 3 days, lets see what they'll reply tomorrow! I'll keep you updated

bet you get the bot email reply of between 30 to 45 days...(that is what i got and to their credit got my 600gh refund in 45 days and my 300gh same time 30 days early

(they gotta mine them refunds don't ya know)

Searing


No reply yet, Also I don't "qualify" for a refund as my order isn't 6months yet. But apparently that's against the law to hold my money and don't give a refund, so yeah (:
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1756
Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
June 01, 2014, 01:15:36 PM
  The true cherry on the cake is that they didn't learn a thing from chasing bASIC on hashrate output and increased the Monarch's theoretical limit to 1TH without having the prototype to back it up.

LOL ya chasing Unicorn Farts from old Tommy boy, the retards we're actually racing against honest to goodness vapourware!!!
sr. member
Activity: 459
Merit: 250
June 01, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
Only BFL.....

Hey we have a chip and components on the board that require cooling and will run hot, should we build a proper copper core PCB?

No lets first try it out, after all we are only 6 months late, which is record speed for us.

Lets delay two more weeks so people don´t get excited and all pull the refund trigger....

Also from the video, it has 1,3% HW errors at 626 GH, so i dont know what will happen when overclocking it.


Were all those pictures of the boards with power resistors just for show? Did they not actually power the thing and run chatacterization tests?  It's amazing that people like Mr. Teal and Marto can build functional boards in just a mattef of weeks, yet BFL and their Millions just can't quite get it.  The true cherry on the cake is that they didn't learn a thing from chasing bASIC on hashrate output and increased the Monarch's theoretical limit to 1TH without having the prototype to back it up.

They say the Imperial Monarch (category A chips, water cooling) can do 1.6 TH, which is rich considering that the board starts melting at 0.7 - even with water cooling.

Josh first said they would use a single board for all the Monarch versions, then corrected himself and said there would be two boards - one for the standard Monarch and one for the Imperial. As things stand now, they don't have a prototype for either that doesn't start degrading heavily after a couple of days.

People said they couldn't surpass the incompetence that surrounded their 65 nm rollout, but BFL has exceeded expectations there.
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1464
Clueless!
June 01, 2014, 11:23:41 AM
I just emailed them asking for a refund. Said I want to have my money within 3 days, lets see what they'll reply tomorrow! I'll keep you updated

bet you get the bot email reply of between 30 to 45 days...(that is what i got and to their credit got my 600gh refund in 45 days and my 300gh same time 30 days early

(they gotta mine them refunds don't ya know)

Searing
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
June 01, 2014, 11:09:59 AM
Only BFL.....

Hey we have a chip and components on the board that require cooling and will run hot, should we build a proper copper core PCB?

No lets first try it out, after all we are only 6 months late, which is record speed for us.

Lets delay two more weeks so people don´t get excited and all pull the refund trigger....

Also from the video, it has 1,3% HW errors at 626 GH, so i dont know what will happen when overclocking it.


Were all those pictures of the boards with power resistors just for show? Did they not actually power the thing and run chatacterization tests?  It's amazing that people like Mr. Teal and Marto can build functional boards in just a mattef of weeks, yet BFL and their Millions just can't quite get it.  The true cherry on the cake is that they didn't learn a thing from chasing bASIC on hashrate output and increased the Monarch's theoretical limit to 1TH without having the prototype to back it up.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
June 01, 2014, 08:57:32 AM
Only BFL.....

Hey we have a chip and components on the board that require cooling and will run hot, should we build a proper copper core PCB?

No lets first try it out, after all we are only 6 months late, which is record speed for us.

Lets delay two more weeks so people don´t get excited and all pull the refund trigger....

Also from the video, it has 1,3% HW errors at 626 GH, so i dont know what will happen when overclocking it.
full member
Activity: 242
Merit: 100
Blockchain-based Financial Ecosystem
June 01, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
In other news BFL has announced that they've fucked up the PCB design again.  Board overheats and shuts down because they jammed 900A of DC/DC regulation into one spot in the center of the board.  They allege that an increase in copper weight of the power planes will solve the problem.  What to expect: more delays and future fuckups.

Oh and that's when driving the board to 700GH/s although they claim it still occurs at 600GH/S.  Good luck with that 1TH businesss BFL.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_josh/

"Extended periods of time testing have shown that the boards will gradually build up heat and eventually fail due to one of the copper layers in the board being too thin. Even at 600 GH/s, the board will start to build up heat and will start to get slower and/or die from heat build up. This is exacerbated if it is in a hotter environment. For this reason, we can't ship these boards to customers"

 I wonder if the failure in the copper layers produces a stench or a strong smell...

The excuses and equivocations are not nearly enough to cover up what is really happening. This is the same exact pattern of plausible deniability they has used for delays before. You can certainly manufacture boards that work and don't work customers must be wondering where the ones that work are?

Full refunds required now not 30 to 45 days to wait nope just full refunds today. Anything else is a breach of Sonny's probation at this point. Don't let BFL take advantage of you any further people. Make it clear to the probation office and the judge this ends now.

But first I want my money back, so I don't have to wait months for it, then you may count me in. It's ridiculous... Why are they actually delaying so much? to mine for themselves or what?
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
June 01, 2014, 08:15:55 AM
In other news BFL has announced that they've fucked up the PCB design again.  Board overheats and shuts down because they jammed 900A of DC/DC regulation into one spot in the center of the board.  They allege that an increase in copper weight of the power planes will solve the problem.  What to expect: more delays and future fuckups.

Oh and that's when driving the board to 700GH/s although they claim it still occurs at 600GH/S.  Good luck with that 1TH businesss BFL.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_josh/

"Extended periods of time testing have shown that the boards will gradually build up heat and eventually fail due to one of the copper layers in the board being too thin. Even at 600 GH/s, the board will start to build up heat and will start to get slower and/or die from heat build up. This is exacerbated if it is in a hotter environment. For this reason, we can't ship these boards to customers"

 I wonder if the failure in the copper layers produces a stench or a strong smell...

The excuses and equivocations are not nearly enough to cover up what is really happening. This is the same exact pattern of plausible deniability they has used for delays before. You can certainly manufacture boards that work and don't work customers must be wondering where the ones that work are?

Full refunds required now not 30 to 45 days to wait nope just full refunds today. Anything else is a breach of Sonny's probation at this point. Don't let BFL take advantage of you any further people. Make it clear to the probation office and the judge this ends now.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
June 01, 2014, 07:47:10 AM
That guy is just Josh, right?
Having met Josh, that sounds nothing like him.  That person has a definite British accent.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
June 01, 2014, 07:24:59 AM
In other news BFL has announced that they've fucked up the PCB design again.  Board overheats and shuts down because they jammed 900A of DC/DC regulation into one spot in the center of the board.  They allege that an increase in copper weight of the power planes will solve the problem.  What to expect: more delays and future fuckups.

Oh and that's when driving the board to 700GH/s although they claim it still occurs at 600GH/S.  Good luck with that 1TH businesss BFL.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_josh/

"Extended periods of time testing have shown that the boards will gradually build up heat and eventually fail due to one of the copper layers in the board being too thin. Even at 600 GH/s, the board will start to build up heat and will start to get slower and/or die from heat build up. This is exacerbated if it is in a hotter environment. For this reason, we can't ship these boards to customers"

 I wonder if the failure in the copper layers produces a stench or a strong smell...
full member
Activity: 242
Merit: 100
Blockchain-based Financial Ecosystem
June 01, 2014, 07:00:12 AM
I just emailed them asking for a refund. Said I want to have my money within 3 days, lets see what they'll reply tomorrow! I'll keep you updated
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
June 01, 2014, 05:30:02 AM
S2 - 1 Th/s can be purchased right now and delivered immediately for $3,099.

They were actually at $2309 with $400 off coupons floating all over the place.  Shipped within 48 Hrs after ordering.  Work like a hot-damn.  Mind you, they only have "kits" right now for $2260 (and the $400 coupon still applies).

For anyone who wants to boast about the Monarch's alleged (fudged) power usage I invite them to do the math and present their findings here.  Any benefit will likely take a full year to pay-off, which is long past the viable lifespan of the Monarch.

Yes... that is true... thanks for the info Dropt.

In other news BFL has announced that they've fucked up the PCB design again.  Board overheats and shuts down because they jammed 900A of DC/DC regulation into one spot in the center of the board.  They allege that an increase in copper weight of the power planes will solve the problem.  What to expect: more delays and future fuckups.

Oh and that's when driving the board to 700GH/s although they claim it still occurs at 600GH/S.  Good luck with that 1TH businesss BFL.

OUCH.

Get a refund buy something else or get some BTC... price on the rise to 700 high possible then sell at the top buy at the new bottom.

At this point you can't seriously consider a BFL product or using EclispeMC.
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1464
Clueless!
June 01, 2014, 03:59:19 AM
That guy is just Josh, right?

imho ANYONE here that backs BFL at this point ..HAS TO BE Josh....I mean really....why get on a forum and take everyone on ..with the "facts' so
obvious that BFL has failed....there can be NO other reason to do so imho

of course I've heard of folks that just like 'abuse' but I mean really.....it is more likely all Josh!

(well partially the above could be in jest ..but then again.......who knows?)

Searing
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
June 01, 2014, 02:47:17 AM
In other news BFL has announced that they've fucked up the PCB design again.  Board overheats and shuts down because they jammed 900A of DC/DC regulation into one spot in the center of the board.  They allege that an increase in copper weight of the power planes will solve the problem.  What to expect: more delays and future fuckups.

Oh and that's when driving the board to 700GH/s although they claim it still occurs at 600GH/S.  Good luck with that 1TH businesss BFL.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
June 01, 2014, 02:30:58 AM
Josh has idiots like that wrapped around his little pecker  Cheesy

They're hoping that the more they emulate him(Josh),the better their chances are of getting a free Monarch.Have you read the BFL forum lately ??

Utter asskissing everywhere,"Your the greatest Josh,I love you!!!!!"  Cheesy 

What a bunch of brainwashed morons,I should know....I was one in 2012  Grin

Little do they know that Josh will skew the raffle & not ship anything till December or early next year........when 600GH earns .0001BTC per day  Cheesy

Dogie,don't worry about your trust rateings,if anyone believes the negs you got,thier dumber than a BFL customer  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1183
dogiecoin.com
June 01, 2014, 02:05:08 AM
That guy is just Josh, right?

Hard to say.  At one point I was sure that it was, but I'm not so certain now.  One thing is for sure:  whomever is posting under that name is either a) posting someone else's words, or b) not the person who made the account.

All his trusts left towards me are really specific to things Josh would 'complain' about regarding me.... Josh can you just pm me so we can sort this out please.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
June 01, 2014, 02:03:38 AM
That guy is just Josh, right?

Hard to say.  At one point I was sure that it was, but I'm not so certain now.  One thing is for sure:  whomever is posting under that name is either a) posting someone else's words; or b) not the person who made the account.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1183
dogiecoin.com
June 01, 2014, 01:59:03 AM
That guy is just Josh, right?
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
June 01, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
S2 - 1 Th/s can be purchased right now and delivered immediately for $3,099.

They were actually at $2309 with $400 off coupons floating all over the place.  Shipped within 48 Hrs after ordering.  Work like a hot-damn.  Mind you, they only have "kits" right now for $2260 (and the $400 coupon still applies).

For anyone who wants to boast about the Monarch's alleged (fudged) power usage I invite them to do the math and present their findings here.  Any benefit will likely take a full year to pay-off, which is long past the viable lifespan of the Monarch.
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