Topic: [BitAffNet] How we're the #1 Bitcoin Mining Pool In The World (or so we thought) - page 51. (Read 98873 times)

Your arguments are nonsense as they show a complete disregard of long term luck and variance in bitcoin mining.

I noticed BaN solved 4 blocks in 24 hours, Great job Miners

330134   marcuz7      11/15/2014   13:52:47   39,603,666,252.4184      25.00   39,603,666,252             30,214,763,748   
330041   mewhoyou      11/14/2014   22:27:49   39,603,666,252.4184      25.00   39,603,666,252               2,845,228,010     
330031   bsom              11/14/2014   21:09:25   39,603,666,252.4184      25.00   39,603,666,252             11,837,833,085
329986   anonymous   11/14/2014   14:41:40   39,603,666,252.4184      25.00   39,603,666,252             44,992,012,573   

Super Wow Well done miners

For all you idiots who do not understand basic math, business economics and how to run a profitable pool for both the miners as well as the Owners and admins heres some help.

Just because s0br has not came out and directly told you EXACTLY what you want to know about the Bonus, doing simple math can be done on any calculator, and guess what you have one on your computer you can use to do these calculations for yourself.

24 Hours

BTC earned 100
BTC paid to members 56.7433733621021136
BTC Bonus paid to members 5.67433733621021136
Potential BTC left after payouts 37.58228930168767504

Oh and guess how I know these figures? Because all these stats needed to put this together are clearly posted on s0br's pool. Nothing is hidden at all I see it all and did the math on my FREE computer calculator.

So from this little common sense chart we can see not only is it possible for a pool to pay the highest reward of any pool out there, not only can you really run a profitable PPS pool but he can also pay a 10% bonus and still have a few BTC left over after its all said and done.

And before you try it, this is not the first time this has happened, We hit super good days like this every now and again.

If you sat don and did a little math you can see where the bonus comes from, we as miners are happy because this pool pays out higher than any other pool at the end of the day, It pays consistantly at the end fo the day. I especially love that when I have a concern they read the whole concern and repond to every aspect of my problem. They dont just skim thru and pick and choose what they want to answer. I am equally happy to see he is able to make a small profit doing this.

I think the problem is s0br is doing what all these pool owners hate, they do not want you to believe any payout structure outside theirs can be profitable, they do not want to invest the time and effort s0br and his team does to try and make this one of the best pools out there. These guys are mad because so far they were able to sit on their ass fill their pockets with BTC while everyone else did the work and mined for them in their pools. Then along comes s0br, who like me was probably tired of doing the math and seeing the profit these pool owners were raking in REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY!!! So he opens a good pool that he can make a profit and his miners can make more mining with him than anywhere else.

s0br, thank you and your admins for having the first profitable PPS pool, you have done something the "experts" the "well respected men" and the "veterans" say CAN NOT BE DONE. if they had a Bitcoin Book of World Records you would be in it for having the first profitable PPS pool.

Thank you for having the first pool that makes it profitable for miners to mine, thank you guys for having the best pool in existance today.

I need to do a pass on the four reviews before I do the next ones anyway, I had mentioned some PPS rates that are out of date. I did the same for Eligius after someone on reddit pointed out it will completely clear a wallet down if it's not been mining for an amount of time.

That is correct. It's locked upon signup and the support crew verifies some information before we change a wallet for the user.

jammers, that seems like a fair and balanced review, just ignore the trolls it's only a couple of people but they whinge like it's an olympic sport.

You said this

The address you enter when signing up is automatically locked, hence why there is no ability to change it on the site, so it's likely more secure than you thought.

I wrote http://bitcoinsinireland.com/bitcoin-affiliate-network-mining-pool-review/ myself, and then got the torrent of abuse at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=837551.0;topicseen for it. I don't hide my identity here.

I've come into bitcoin from the video games industry, where I worked a long time (10 years+), and set my site up to do the kind of things we do in games, looking at the product and service providers from my own opinion. And then I got accusations, many incredibly insulting. I checked eight pools, four of which I have published reviews which are at http://bitcoinsinireland.com/category/bitcoin-mining-pools/. I still have ozco.in, polmine, btcguild and slush in the next batch, whenever I can get the time to write them up.

Most of the pools I've seen have been stagnant from both a UI point of view, as many were built back in the day. I'm sure that the fact that their % of blocks has dropped considerably as more pools came online, discus fish and ghash launched taking up half of the network, and the industrial mining farms take another chunk, squeezing them earnings big time, has made it a lot less profitable to bother updating their interfaces for new, less technical miners like me.

Also, with the way they're paying, I often had situations where I was mining for hours, and because there were few/none blocks found in the shift or scoring systems, a lot of time I was getting very little. Or otherwise, I had suck a tiny % of overall pool hashing rate, I was getting practically nothing per block. I modded some of my four antminer s1's which i outlined before I even started the reviews at http://bitcoinsinireland.com/antminer-s1-mining-more-than-3-pools/ and this let me put a fixed hash rate on them all at the same time, and then use that data to guide my non-review hashing.

So when I'm not reviewing other pools, I default back to BAN because I get this - https://blockchain.info/address/1PTq1ofLXaAtPcnMwjHrhonYNCnd3GvD2c - steady lodgements to my wallet, instead of waiting for blocks to be found, and queues.

On the issue of the scam, I think it's also important to differentiate between a scam, ie a company running with someone's money, and a fuck up to a promotional activity. I didn't have my antminers back then, as I only got them in early September. There's a huge amount of people winging it in bitcoin enterprises, and people make mistakes. But if you're going to be making accusations, put your actual name to it.

It does seem like there are a couple of people who seem to jump on any post that mentions BAN, so why don't you just cop on, and sort out whatever fuckup happened before to the community, and get on with things.

I'm more concerned with pools that don't fully pay because of high minimum thresholds (as I'm a small scale miner / 600ghs) out than constantly seeing people bitch about this. I know people are loyal to pools. I was with BTC Guild for 7 months since February on some leased hashing, but when I got my own one this year, I like the interface on this one better than the others, and it's letting me build up my bitcoin wallets quicker than any of the eight pools I tried.

ok here go's the first post on this site

first off lemme tell you all that BAN is a pool that is constatly looking for ways to better and reinvent itself.

that being sayed i know for a fact that the Ban team really cares for it's miners and always tryes to do the best they can to fix every prblem that comes.

knowing that we better and reinvent that also means that we are very busy and are forced to work with tickets but there is a admin in for 90% of the time to pick them up.

To all new miners that read this i would like to say the following

there are allot of pools out there

some good some a bit less and there have been very bad pools out there.
there has been a test done by the BAN team to testout 7 pools with 7 miners ( identical) and the stats can be seen at the first post.
the ban pool is tested in that aswell and happy to say we came out on top.
our constant pay witch can be set from 1 hour up to 24 hours has proven to be very transperant.
you can see youre payout history and compair everything for yourself.
if you still think that you need more info or if you just want to talk to everyone from BAN team and miners allike then i would like to invite you to our webchat.

here is the link for that https://mining.bitcoinaffiliatenetwork.com/index.php?page=about&action=chat

we can also help you there if you are a starter and donno how to start

well that is basicly all i have to say for now thank you all for reading

Yes by all means DO NOT BELIEVE s0br at all, rather listening to him and taking his word take his loyal miners word instead

Does BaN payout regularly - YES
Can we see the 10% bonus we accumulate - Yes in 3 different places it is calculated.
Is BaN one of the MOST profitable pools to mine in as a Miner- ABSOLUTELY yes I am a member of many MANY pools and mine and test them daily
Are payouts accurate with stats - yes payouts are exactly what you see in your earing stats.
Are hashrates accurate with your miner software - NO  Most fo the time the reported hashrates on BaN are actually higher than my CGminer tells me.
      This is not just BaN I have found similiar results on 1 Other pool, thats right folks 2 pools I test thrughout the week report higher rates than your mining software tells you.
Are payouts made when you have them set to pay into your wallet - YES
Are payouts ever delayed _ yes once in a whyile and we are notified and we have never lost any rewards due to payout delays.
      Also if the delay is to bad The owner and admins even offer bonus for problematic situations that delay payments

AND LASTLY but MOST IMPORTANTLY
Where does the 10% bonus come from, WHO REALLY GIVES A FLYING MONKEYS BUTT WHERE IT COMES FROM!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Sigh, ok you reread it and still didn't understand what I wrote.
Is English not your native language? OK I'll explain what I wrote.

s0br made a false claim against PPLNS and I corrected that FUD.
I explained why any pool that did what he claimed was technically simple would MOST likely not get away with it.

Meanwhile, seriously, get a grip man.
It's not about you ...

Seriously, if I start spreading FUD about pools in my thread, come and tell me - I'd be happy to either correct the mistake or point out where you are wrong

Yeah my pool is still paying well ... 13 block in a row below 100% diff ... all luck as I stated before, but still happening.

I think what Kano was referring to was with a PPLNS pool could hid blocks but miners would catch on unless the pool controlled a large amount of the hash rate and it's miners hit the block but as long as others find the block and it's shows on their miners then it would be hard to hide. I really think he was not referring to BAN hiding blocks and really it would serve no purpose anyways.

I can read just fine. I just wonder why you need to "Educate" everyone about what could happen if you're not making insinuations, accusations, or something like it. This is supposed to be a thread about where people can mine to make more money, and all the "evidence" against that is speculative bullshit.

You guys don't like this pool? Fine. No one's making you mine here. Kano, you can start your own thread to promote your own pool and I hope it does well. I've read the same theory that you have, I just wonder why you feel the need to point out that pool operators could theoretically steal blocks and you could theoretically call the police. Do you send this kind of love to Eclipse MC too, or is Josh somehow exempt from your wise decrees?

In the world I live in, we try new things when the status quo sucks. Like all the existing pools that don't consistently pay well. Good luck with your pool dude. Rest assured no one from our team is gonna show up on your thread and start spreading theoretical drivel.

Last i checked you are the only one spool lies and continuing to troll and still not responding to my previous post.

Kano unlike you isnt acting as a troll cursing and just plainly attacking S0br.

I'm afraid s0br & his scamming cronies/aliases have an aversion to reading facts or anything else that resembles the truth, preferring to pretend it doesn't exist & relying on their favourite lines of "we'll make you rich", "every other pool is wrong" or "nobody knows they are talking about apart from us", in-between tirades of abuse & insults of course.

It's amazing to think that after disappearing for two months after his scam was exposed, s0br suddenly re-appears with claims of being "transparent & accurate" while his BAN pool thread remains locked after he deleted as many incriminating posts as he could. He can't seriously think that people will suddenly start to believe him or even take him seriously anymore after all that has happened.

Queue the next onslaught of abuse & personal attacks........

Please learn to read.
Then reread what I wrote ... quoted here yet again so you might actually read it this time ...

Not even the part where you're still here saying exactly the same things. That, will apparently never change.

Meanwhile anyone with a pair of balls and a little bit of an adventurous spirit could mine with us and make more money. It's fine that you're lacking both but maybe you could be quiet about it.

So, as usual, s0br hides behind ThePhwner & his little army of aliases to do his talking for him - same as the scam thread, same as the (still locked) BAN pool thread - nothing changes.......

Everything about this BitcoinAffiliatesNetwork outfit is either a scam, a lie, fake, dubious or just plain ridiculous.

What a laugh......

Oooooh - you found a typo......

You may want to learn type names correctly, His name is thePhwner.

@s0br seems you have alot of trolls. I would recommend you create a new self moderated thread.

Are you sure?


ThePhawner, every time you post, on any thread, you look more stupid & scammy. Stop it.

None of this relates to this thread about mining profits. None of it whatsoever.