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legendary
Activity: 1137
Merit: 1000
It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.
That's because you are a human with emotions.

Not a computer.

If you want to prove it's rigged forget how you "feel" or it "seems", get the HHs of an adequate sample size, figure out what's going on and explain it to the rest of us.

Here's an example of how Michael Shackleford did it (successfully imo)

http://wizardofodds.com/online-gambling/casino-bar/

Otherwise people will look at you the same as guys like this:

+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!

I'm not gonna agre/disagree with what your saying, I fully respect your opinion,  

However, that was not what i said, The person who replied with a extremely bold statement, for some reason was passionately defending her "side" (if u will), however I had not said anything that wasn't totally opinion based, (my opinion), so for someone to reply with a strong defense, against something that I am basing on only how I felt,  and not facts, is rude.  
So I felt it was important to explain myself,

What do you mean that's not what you said?  I got the impression you thought there was a huge chance the site was not "legit" or even close to reality and that your qualifications include gambling for over 10 years.
You can't bring a calculator, and "disapprove" my own opinion.   (You might just look stupid) Wink

The more you focus on how you feel and worrying about looking stupid doing math the farther your conclusion will be from reality.








Yes i agree, just looking at this post has brought me too far from the original "real" statement i made, 

 Im gonna try to make it very simple:  1) Read the words I put in BOLD from my original statement.

 2)Now to be more clear on what you just read:   "All I was saying was my opinion about a specific site. And why I decided not to play there any longer."


3)  I can however see it coming off as if having a gambling problem is a qualification for anything, That is not what i meant,  I should have said that differently,


So no, this  "+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!"   was not my statement. 

If you are still unclear Im sorry, but now Im getting confused.

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legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 2093
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It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.
That's because you are a human with emotions.

Not a computer.

If you want to prove it's rigged forget how you "feel" or it "seems", get the HHs of an adequate sample size, figure out what's going on and explain it to the rest of us.

Here's an example of how Michael Shackleford did it (successfully imo)

http://wizardofodds.com/online-gambling/casino-bar/

Otherwise people will look at you the same as guys like this:

+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!

I'm not gonna agre/disagree with what your saying, I fully respect your opinion,  

However, that was not what i said, The person who replied with a extremely bold statement, for some reason was passionately defending her "side" (if u will), however I had not said anything that wasn't totally opinion based, (my opinion), so for someone to reply with a strong defense, against something that I am basing on only how I felt,  and not facts, is rude.  
So I felt it was important to explain myself,

What do you mean that's not what you said?  I got the impression you thought there was a huge chance the site was not "legit" or even close to reality and that your qualifications include gambling for over 10 years.
You can't bring a calculator, and "disapprove" my own opinion.   (You might just look stupid) Wink

The more you focus on how you feel and worrying about looking stupid doing math the farther your conclusion will be from reality.





legendary
Activity: 1137
Merit: 1000
It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.
That's because you are a human with emotions.

Not a computer.

If you want to prove it's rigged forget how you "feel" or it "seems", get the HHs of an adequate sample size, figure out what's going on and explain it to the rest of us.

Here's an example of how Michael Shackleford did it (successfully imo)

http://wizardofodds.com/online-gambling/casino-bar/

Otherwise people will look at you the same as guys like this:

+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!

I'm not gonna agre/disagree with what your saying, I fully respect your opinion, 

However, that was not what i said, The person who replied with a extremely bold statement, for some reason was passionately defending her "side" (if u will), however I had not said anything that wasn't totally opinion based, (my opinion), so for someone to reply with a strong defense, against something that I am basing on only how I felt,  and not facts, is rude. 
So I felt it was important to explain myself,


 You can't bring a calculator, and "disapprove" my own opinion.   (You might just look stupid) Wink

hero member
Activity: 1299
Merit: 502
It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.
That's because you are a human with emotions.

Not a computer.

If you want to prove it's rigged forget how you "feel" or it "seems", get the HHs of an adequate sample size, figure out what's going on and explain it to the rest of us.

Here's an example of how Michael Shackleford did it (successfully imo)

http://wizardofodds.com/online-gambling/casino-bar/

Otherwise people will look at you the same as guys like this:

+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!


whoooaaa, easy there, I'm not exactly interested in doing a clinical trial, and let me rephrase, 'I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE PLAYING ON OTHER SITES RATHER THAN THIS ONE"   if you like this one, perfect, you play here.   You don't mind if I play elsewhere though right?  

I am not saying this site is "Rigged", in fact I think the opposite, but when I asked to see my last 20 hand history, and was told "We're not able to do that",  then i post it on here, and the response is "Of course we can do that",  I feel uneasy.  

(And yes you are correct, I am a person with emothions, and not a computer)Huh   ------>  100% relevant

You ain't got to explain anything. If they can't see those live games are fixed then that's on them. I even asked a dealer the other day after I splitted 9s against dealer 5. I got 11 and down double with 20 and 19. Dealer gets 21 on a .3 btc total bet. I said in the chat box, I quit this is rigged. Dealer nods her head and laugh. She know its Fix. I am done with it. There are videos on youtube that shows live casinos being rigged.

I never in my life seen so many times player has 12, takes a hit and bust out. But the dealer can show 3,4,5,6 and make some many dog gone hands that its not even funny.
legendary
Activity: 1137
Merit: 1000
It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.
That's because you are a human with emotions.

Not a computer.

If you want to prove it's rigged forget how you "feel" or it "seems", get the HHs of an adequate sample size, figure out what's going on and explain it to the rest of us.

Here's an example of how Michael Shackleford did it (successfully imo)

http://wizardofodds.com/online-gambling/casino-bar/

Otherwise people will look at you the same as guys like this:

+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!


whoooaaa, easy there, I'm not exactly interested in doing a clinical trial, and let me rephrase, 'I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE PLAYING ON OTHER SITES RATHER THAN THIS ONE"   if you like this one, perfect, you play here.   You don't mind if I play elsewhere though right? 

I am not saying this site is "Rigged", in fact I think the opposite, but when I asked to see my last 20 hand history, and was told "We're not able to do that",  then i post it on here, and the response is "Of course we can do that",  I feel uneasy.   

(And yes you are correct, I am a person with emothions, and not a computer)Huh   ------>  100% relevant
full member
Activity: 254
Merit: 101
thanks for the oppurtinity guy Bitcasino heres my wager : hopefully i can make it lol

hero member
Activity: 864
Merit: 1002
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hero member
Activity: 864
Merit: 1002
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hey, this esport match postponed.
when you will return my bet?

Empire vs Danish Bears

This issue was resolved by our LiveChat as informed by SlarkBoy Smiley

Good luck on your next bet!

Cheers,
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hero member
Activity: 864
Merit: 1002
Over 1,300 games in store for you!
hey, this esport match postponed.
when you will return my bet?

Empire vs Danish Bears
Hi Slarkboy,

To check this for you we will need some more information from you, we have sent you a pm Smiley

Cheers,
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member
Activity: 114
Merit: 11
hey, this esport match postponed.
when you will return my bet?

Empire vs Danish Bears
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 2093
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PISHING EMAIL WARNING

This is from the people that got Betcoin.ag user login/email early last January the same week that they announced a mandatory PW change for every single player.

The same email described above was sent to an email address only ever used to register for Betcoin.ag today at 1:56 am EST with a phishing link leading through a russian site and landing on a similiar url as bitcasino with "bitcoindrugs" added.

A couple weeks ago, they sent this email:



It linked to a casino that looked exactly like Bitcasino, but was only a cashier with deposit address and an ad to download free vpn.

Since January Betcoin.ag has been asked probably close to 100 times by various users how someone got their users login/email info.  Their only response has been that they were not hacked.

Here are some examples of other phishing attempts made by the same people: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-has-your-email-address-these-suspicious-emails-might-look-familiar-1379083



I too just got one of these.



I do not believe i had an account at BitCasino... (I just made one)

I bet you have an account at Betcoin.ag thats at least 3 months old though!
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 2093
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It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.
That's because you are a human with emotions.

Not a computer.

If you want to prove it's rigged forget how you "feel" or it "seems", get the HHs of an adequate sample size, figure out what's going on and explain it to the rest of us.

Here's an example of how Michael Shackleford did it (successfully imo)

http://wizardofodds.com/online-gambling/casino-bar/

Otherwise people will look at you the same as guys like this:

+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!
hero member
Activity: 1299
Merit: 502
@jpoker272727

It is unfortunate that you have lost more coins at Bitcasino.io than you think is right. In terms of your hand history, we will be able to provide it, please e-mail us from your registered address with the request and we will get it processed.

Also, most of the blackjack games (and slots) have hand history available in the game.

In terms of our licensing then i can assure you that we are in the middle of application processes for more than one highly regarded EU licenses. Unfortunately some licenses have a very long due diligence process (6-18 months depending on the size of the business), especially when bitcoin is involved, but rest assured that we are putting in the maximum effort and resources to speed up the process. Our main goal is to increase awareness, and to educate, about bitcoin in the general public. A lot of effort also goes into communicating, explaining and educating governmental institutions about the potential of Bitcoin. Of course we are not the only Bitcoin focused establishment doing so, there are many others from different parts of the bitcoin community.

But how much licensing is sufficient? How much bureacracy is enough to create trust? We believe that having signed papers, certificates and other relevant things is great, but ultimately it is about how fast we can process our withdrawals, how well we can communicate with our users and how transparent we can be about our operation. Most people know that ultimately it comes down to how good the staff and services are, not about how much certifications and licenses a company can show-off.

@Lucky7btc


It would be great if the authenticity of Betgames.TV could be verified by any single user, but at the moment it is not possible. Although, we are in talks with them to start using the Provably Fair concept.

From our side, we can assure you that all of their games have gone through thorough testing, verification and certification by independent authorities. I am sure that we have a lot of users who are satisfied with their games but do not bother writing about their experience on the forums.

As you know, we welcome any and all feedback to try and improve the users experience.


I feel like you said a lot, but nothing relevant?   Anyway, maybe its legit, (i have huge doubts)  but thats just me.  Maybe others feel different, but I've been gambling for about a decade now, so I do know the basic odds of blackjack, roulette, spanish 21, etc.  and when I see I'm winning about 35% of my hands, playing every hand strictly by the book, and over the course of thousands of hands, and months of playing, It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.   I've seen many many win/loss statements, and obviously the longer you play its usually a net loss, but its never even close to 35%/65%.   Both my experience in the dutch antiles and statistics would "provably" say not to trust the locals in Curacao with 5 guilders.  lol

+1 THE LIVE GAMES ARE RIGGED! GO PLAY BETONPOKER ITS JUST SO IN YOUR FACE RIGGED THAT ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!
legendary
Activity: 1137
Merit: 1000
@jpoker272727

It is unfortunate that you have lost more coins at Bitcasino.io than you think is right. In terms of your hand history, we will be able to provide it, please e-mail us from your registered address with the request and we will get it processed.

Also, most of the blackjack games (and slots) have hand history available in the game.

In terms of our licensing then i can assure you that we are in the middle of application processes for more than one highly regarded EU licenses. Unfortunately some licenses have a very long due diligence process (6-18 months depending on the size of the business), especially when bitcoin is involved, but rest assured that we are putting in the maximum effort and resources to speed up the process. Our main goal is to increase awareness, and to educate, about bitcoin in the general public. A lot of effort also goes into communicating, explaining and educating governmental institutions about the potential of Bitcoin. Of course we are not the only Bitcoin focused establishment doing so, there are many others from different parts of the bitcoin community.

But how much licensing is sufficient? How much bureacracy is enough to create trust? We believe that having signed papers, certificates and other relevant things is great, but ultimately it is about how fast we can process our withdrawals, how well we can communicate with our users and how transparent we can be about our operation. Most people know that ultimately it comes down to how good the staff and services are, not about how much certifications and licenses a company can show-off.

@Lucky7btc


It would be great if the authenticity of Betgames.TV could be verified by any single user, but at the moment it is not possible. Although, we are in talks with them to start using the Provably Fair concept.

From our side, we can assure you that all of their games have gone through thorough testing, verification and certification by independent authorities. I am sure that we have a lot of users who are satisfied with their games but do not bother writing about their experience on the forums.

As you know, we welcome any and all feedback to try and improve the users experience.


I feel like you said a lot, but nothing relevant?   Anyway, maybe its legit, (i have huge doubts)  but thats just me.  Maybe others feel different, but I've been gambling for about a decade now, so I do know the basic odds of blackjack, roulette, spanish 21, etc.  and when I see I'm winning about 35% of my hands, playing every hand strictly by the book, and over the course of thousands of hands, and months of playing, It seems like it shouldnt be that far off.   I've seen many many win/loss statements, and obviously the longer you play its usually a net loss, but its never even close to 35%/65%.   Both my experience in the dutch antiles and statistics would "provably" say not to trust the locals in Curacao with 5 guilders.  lol
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
PISHING EMAIL WARNING

This is from the people that got Betcoin.ag user login/email early last January the same week that they announced a mandatory PW change for every single player.

The same email described above was sent to an email address only ever used to register for Betcoin.ag today at 1:56 am EST with a phishing link leading through a russian site and landing on a similiar url as bitcasino with "bitcoindrugs" added.

A couple weeks ago, they sent this email:

https://i.gyazo.com/9ed541f14f0fd2fc23c26a535f787ec3.png

It linked to a casino that looked exactly like Bitcasino, but was only a cashier with deposit address and an ad to download free vpn.

Since January Betcoin.ag has been asked probably close to 100 times by various users how someone got their users login/email info.  Their only response has been that they were not hacked.

Here are some examples of other phishing attempts made by the same people: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-has-your-email-address-these-suspicious-emails-might-look-familiar-1379083



I too just got one of these.

https://i.gyazo.com/7b6b06c8328ab402f4f45d3f27b34139.png

I do not believe i had an account at BitCasino... (I just made one)
hero member
Activity: 1299
Merit: 502
Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

I thought it was pretty sketch too, I don't see how they can change the cards though. I sat there and watch for a good 20 minutes trying to see something lol.

Its in the live feed. Its not as it appears on camera. There's a video on youtube where this guys shows a live casino manipulating the results thru the feed. This is what they are doing with their live games including blackjack.
hero member
Activity: 1299
Merit: 502
What does that has to do with anything? You trying to discredit me - But instead you should at least go play the damn games and see for yourself. Its not hard to do - logon go to betonpoker place some large bets on high percentage hands and see how the dealer will pull out the impossible to win. Its clear as day they are rigging the dog gone games.

I'm not here to prove the game is or isn't rigged, you are.

I'm just telling you that when someone goes on rant about how they are so sure a game is rigged and they were cheated but can't articulate what actually happened other than "Images can be manipulate thru the feed. Its rigged I tell ya" , it's pretty safe to assume the reason they can't explain the issue is because it only exists in their own brain.

IT IS RIGGED! You don't have to take my word. Go play it yourself. Bet 20 mBTC or more and you will see it. Place your bets on the cards that has a greater chances of the player to win and see the manipulation that happens. You just don't make this stuff up. Go test it for yourself...
legendary
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What does that has to do with anything? You trying to discredit me - But instead you should at least go play the damn games and see for yourself. Its not hard to do - logon go to betonpoker place some large bets on high percentage hands and see how the dealer will pull out the impossible to win. Its clear as day they are rigging the dog gone games.

I'm not here to prove the game is or isn't rigged, you are.

I'm just telling you that when someone goes on rant about how they are so sure a game is rigged and they were cheated but can't articulate what actually happened other than "Images can be manipulate thru the feed. Its rigged I tell ya" , it's pretty safe to assume the reason they can't explain the issue is because it only exists in their own brain.
hero member
Activity: 1249
Merit: 506
Their BETGAMES.TV live games are rigged. Especially LIVE Baccarat and BET ON POKER. All one has to do is make several bets of 20 mbtc or greater and they will see the dealer do the impossible. The live games are NOT legit and honest. Images can be manipulate thru the feed.

Live games can be rigged with several ways but faking the stream can never be done because there is always interaction of player to the dealer. Most of the times, dealers are trained to do some stuff that most people cant see, like faking cards or slipping it through their hands without letting players see it
OP might need to answer this and prove their credibility since bitcasino already established their name, this allegation needed to answer directly and provide proofs that the issue is incorrect as of now i enjoyed playing their slots and Im not aware or affected of this live casino.

I tell you what you do. Go play BET ON POKER for 20 mBTC and bet on mutiple outcomes and see if the dealer doesn't pullout the impossible wins. Its rigged I tell you.

I thought it was pretty sketch too, I don't see how they can change the cards though. I sat there and watch for a good 20 minutes trying to see something lol.
hero member
Activity: 864
Merit: 1002
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Hello,

We are aware that some of our users have received suspicious e-mails asking them to "Unlock their locked account" with a link inside going to a random dangerous website.

From our research and investigation it looks like someone has obtained a list of e-mails from an external website. It may be a forum, news site with newsletter lists or something different. This has been an issue for a number of other gambling service providers during the last month.

At the moment only a handful of our users have received such an e-mail but we want to make sure all of you are aware of the possibility.

We strongly recommend anyone who has received this e-mail to change their password on the website and to also Enable Google Authenticator which will make account breaches almost impossible without having access to your phone.

PS: After changing your password there is a 48-hour cooldown for withdrawals.

PPS: We will never ask for your password nor will we ever ask you to click on any links to unlock your account.

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