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Topic: BitClub Network: MLM promises, false testimonials and PoS coin - AVOID - page 3. (Read 62248 times)

legendary
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-10/three-men-are-charged-in-722-million-cryptocurrency-fraud

Three Men Are Charged in $722 Million Cryptocurrency Fraud

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Three men were charged by U.S. prosecutors with helping run a $722 million cryptocurrency fraud that amounted to a “high-tech Ponzi scheme.”

From 2014 until this month, the men operated BitClub Network, which solicited money from investors in exchange for shares in purported cryptocurrency mining pools and rewarded them for recruiting new investors, according to prosecutors.

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Matthew Brent Goettsche, 37, Jobadiah Sinclair Weeks, 38, and Joseph Frank Abel, 49, were arrested Tuesday and charged with conspiracy, U.S. Attorney Craig Carpenito in New Jersey said in a statement. Two more defendants, whose names weren’t disclosed, remain at large.

Goettsche referred to potential BitClub Network investors as “dumb” and “sheep,” saying he was “building this whole model on the backs of idiots,” according to the statement. In September 2017, Goettsche sent an email to a co-conspirator in which he suggested BitClub Network would allow them to “retire RAF!!! (rich as f*ck),” prosecutors said.

Goettsche and Weeks are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud, while all three men are facing charges of conspiracy to sell unregistered securities.

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The case is U.S. v. Goettsche, 19-cr-00877, U.S. District Court, District of New Jersey (Newark).

Happy Fucking Christmas, you bunch of thieving, lying cunts.

newbie
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legendary
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Encrypted Money, Baby!
The best reviews will ultimately come from the members themselves, and you will be hard-pressed to find anyone crying foul about BCN online, except for those who don't understand the nature of bitcoin mining, and expect to see fixed guaranteed yields on a monthly basis. Yes, there are members who are ignorant like so too, but very few. Read those reviews (usually in the comment section of these bogus articles) by members themselves, who have nothing to gain by putting a good word about BCN online. Those there are your genuine tried-and-tested reviews. Not the one you just shared.
I know it's an old post, but still: this is absolutely not true. There can't be any best reviews about BCN for the following reasons: those who haven't tried them obviously can only judge by what they see, thus having an incomplete image of the whole thing.

But what's even worse: those who are with them can't be trusted. Because of the MLM structure, they have a strong interest to skew the facts and lure others in, as they make money off of them. They have no incentive to criticize them; even worse: if they're operating at a loss, they'd be even more inclined to lie about it and say something good, so new members joining under them compensate their loss. They have a conflict of interest, and that's why the members are those least to be trusted when reading a review.

Edit:
Any business/organisation that uses fake testimonials including pictures of convicted rapists is quite obviously a scam. Nothing any BCN shill says can change that.
This.
newbie
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There are no more mining earnings, Bitclub has become 100% pyramid scheme. Illegal in the USA yet Riccardo Ferrari shows off his new BMW sports car and brags making over $500k per month recruiting Americans in the USA. Riccardo is Joe Able's (1 of 3 partners in Bitclub and lives in Oxnard California) US point man and best friend.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10216901847692032&set=a.4738523674606&type=3&theater

Riccardo is known for hustling woman with dating scams and is facing one such lawsuit in Florida. He is a real piece of work. I just recently received an email (spam) from him regarding a new victim of his, you got to be proud of your protege huh Joe Able?

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Riccardo Ferrari [email protected] via aweber.com
Jan 22, 2019, 11:29 PM (3 days ago)
to me

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Look into this. 7 figures can be yours in 2019.

Also, Jeanne Grosso the admin or our Facebook groups is totally
unsuccessful and broke. She tried to extort money from me or
would shut down the groups. She wanted money for my own groups?? (aka Joke)
That sick loser will never get money from me.
She shut down and compromised communications with 1700 of my members.
Why did I trust her with my groups admin? I don't know!
I never liked this whining negative woman. Beware a real nag!
My attorney is filling a law suit for $650,000.
And she is being terminated from our main company. Good luck to her.

I will reorganize a Facebook group as soon as possible.
Thank you for your patience.

Best Regards,
Riccardo Ferrari

Read this, Joe Able about your best friend for life. Sound like your other partner Russ?

Links to the sexual dating scam lawsuit
https://consentawareness.net/tag/ferrari/

https://books.google.com/books?id=nV5UCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=%22riccardo+ferrari%22+scam&source=bl&ots=e7y68D0Cx_&sig=ACfU3U2FOAgSVPMvB72YPytlqRHyindI1g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwirn_yyvYjgAhUjjoMKHcFVAcQQ6AEwBXoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22riccardo%20ferrari%22%20scam&f=false

https://consentawareness.net/2016/04/17/consistency-why-catfish-laws-are-a-must/


https://i.ibb.co/PD0FK1L/riccardo-sociopath.png
member
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You got questions? We got answers. coinclarity.com
MLM is quite a closed, close-knit world and soon it was flavor of the month to churn out crypto related schemes with MLM schemes attached, massively enabled by the anonymity aspect and the untraceable nature of funds.
Scammers also fall out with one another and fork off to establish copycats, and that's the environment that enabled Tradecoinclub.
The crypto world cottoned on fairly quickly to the old style sales approach of the MLM world, which is why you don't see huge threads on here regarding obvious schemes, but it still has a massive presence on the fringes of real crypto with schemes like Onecoin and Dagcoin.

I'm just surprised more of these people don't face any sort of jail time, and are allowed to continue from scam to scam unhindered. Here's my Trade Coin Club / AI Trades article if anybody's interested. Will probably post it in the News section eventually:

https://coinclarity.com/spotting-a-scamcoin-trade-coin-club/
legendary
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When I started this thread over three years ago, crypto had had little exposure to MLM.
The MLM industry in America was busy with its staple diet of dubious products in the healthcare, diet supplements and household sectors.
It's a very conservative industry, sticks with what it knows and is organized along franchise lines.
There's either the establishment model, corporations like Amway and Vemma, or the fringe where independent high flyers with established "downlines" and relentless marketing jump from new scheme to new scheme in search of new "investors".
The founders of BCN were the latter and struck gold, in so far as they stumbled on something (Bitcoin) which allowed them to write their own rules. The lack of regulation and the mystique surrounding crypto were an MLMer's dream and they exploited it to the hilt.

MLM is quite a closed, close-knit world and soon it was flavor of the month to churn out crypto related schemes with MLM schemes attached, massively enabled by the anonymity aspect and the untraceable nature of funds.
Scammers also fall out with one another and fork off to establish copycats, and that's the environment that enabled Tradecoinclub.
The crypto world cottoned on fairly quickly to the old style sales approach of the MLM world, which is why you don't see huge threads on here regarding obvious schemes, but it still has a massive presence on the fringes of real crypto with schemes like Onecoin and Dagcoin.

Kudos to you sir. I never knew about this crap until I saw this thread. Sad world, good job saving many people's money who read this first, even if we have no idea who or anything.... Cheers!
legendary
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
When I started this thread over three years ago, crypto had had little exposure to MLM.
The MLM industry in America was busy with its staple diet of dubious products in the healthcare, diet supplements and household sectors.
It's a very conservative industry, sticks with what it knows and is organized along franchise lines.
There's either the establishment model, corporations like Amway and Vemma, or the fringe where independent high flyers with established "downlines" and relentless marketing jump from new scheme to new scheme in search of new "investors".
The founders of BCN were the latter and struck gold, in so far as they stumbled on something (Bitcoin) which allowed them to write their own rules. The lack of regulation and the mystique surrounding crypto were an MLMer's dream and they exploited it to the hilt.

MLM is quite a closed, close-knit world and soon it was flavor of the month to churn out crypto related schemes with MLM schemes attached, massively enabled by the anonymity aspect and the untraceable nature of funds.
Scammers also fall out with one another and fork off to establish copycats, and that's the environment that enabled Tradecoinclub.
The crypto world cottoned on fairly quickly to the old style sales approach of the MLM world, which is why you don't see huge threads on here regarding obvious schemes, but it still has a massive presence on the fringes of real crypto with schemes like Onecoin and Dagcoin.
member
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You got questions? We got answers. coinclarity.com
Are you guys very familiar with Trade Coin Club? I can't seem to find any massive expose on them in this forum, but... Ryan Conley was one of their "early adopter" promoters... Its a Ponzi pretending to use trading bots that opened in January 2017 and is still taking in really dense peoples' BTC who didn't manage to do 1 second of DD.

I'm writing an article about them now, stumbled upon this thread during my research. It sure is amazing how these guys just keep going from one scam to the next without ever getting jailed or fined or ostracized or anything!

Here's a good starting place if you're interested:

https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/trade-coin-club-review-cryptocurrency-exchange-ponzi-rois

Ryan even addresses some of his critics in the comments section.
legendary
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
Bitclub has stopped their payments

Completely coincidental, of course, that the long neglected premined Clubcoin is currently being converted to an ERC20 in a frenzy of activity.

BCN stopped paying out in Bitcoin because it was "too expensive"1, so paying out investors in the near future only in their own shitcoin would seem a logical further "cost cutting" move.

1After they had "educated" Roger Ver about their business model..
legendary
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..and my Hashflare mining contracts...


So you avoided this scam for another Hashcoins scam.  LULZ

Hashflare had nothing to do with Hashcoin / Paycoin.


Hashcoins/Hashflare are the same entity run by the same people. Moderators recently moved the entire Hashcoins thread to the scam section because they sold miners to customers but kept them for themselves to start Hashflare, which is another ponzi cloud mining scam. Hashcoins/Hashflare were also behind the Polybius ICO scam, whose official thread was deleted by moderators.........some track record  Wink

Thanks for the insight!
Josh Garza is going to prison SOON ™️.
hero member
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Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
..and my Hashflare mining contracts...


So you avoided this scam for another Hashcoins scam.  LULZ

Hashflare had nothing to do with Hashcoin / Paycoin.


Hashcoins/Hashflare are the same entity run by the same people. Moderators recently moved the entire Hashcoins thread to the scam section because they sold miners to customers but kept them for themselves to start Hashflare, which is another ponzi cloud mining scam. Hashcoins/Hashflare were also behind the Polybius ICO scam, whose official thread was deleted by moderators.........some track record  Wink
legendary
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..and my Hashflare mining contracts...


So you avoided this scam for another Hashcoins scam.  LULZ

Hashflare had nothing to do with Hashcoin / Paycoin.

The fake XPY "mining" and "staking" was perpetuated by GAWMiners using jpeg files posing as "Hashlets."




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I'm not invested in Bitclub and I would recommend everyone to do so too.

This kind of MLM System is only a money printer press for the founders. They will get parts of your profits and so you pay for them.
MLM is a bad thing for normal investors - think about it.
legendary
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A friend of mine lost his first BTC to a ponzi-type MLM scam back in 2014. He bought it for about $115.

He's really pissed now.

All you have to do is HODL!
full member
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TIME TO BAN THE YOBIT SCAM!!
..and my Hashflare mining contracts...


So you avoided this scam for another Hashcoins scam.  LULZ
newbie
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The sad part about this is, how many of my friends now claim to be "mining bitcoin", and trying to get me to sign up under them.

They lose it when I explain to them how much I earn from my own mining rigs, and my Hashflare mining contracts. (A whole lot more than they get from similar cash "investments in Bitclub).

I know one guy though, who has so many sign-ups under him, and appears to be one of the big promoters here in South Africa, who is raking it in. Many of my friends signed up under him, cos he has convinced them that his lifestyle is the result of his mining, and not because of him getting a cut of every cent they put in.

The guy is a stay-at-home dad, who travels internationally extensively, and drives luxury cars. He sells this as proof of how much money you can make by signing up to Bitclub.

He got one of my friends to pump R10000  into this scam (about $1000). Now my friend's monthly earnings are R500, which is about a tenth of what he could have been earning if he got a rig, and started mining on nicehash, or some similar pool.

The problem is that people want to get rich quick, and are too lazy to do their own due diligence.
full member
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TIME TO BAN THE YOBIT SCAM!!
how long does it take to withdraw gpu earnings. i ve been requesting for past 5 days but still withdrawal status is pending. wtf

As the post above yours says: never.
newbie
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how long does it take to withdraw gpu earnings. i ve been requesting for past 5 days but still withdrawal status is pending. wtf
legendary
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In other words, the rate of payback is about 9.6% of my investment after about 7 months. At this rate it will take about 2,062 days, or 5.6 more years, to recoup my investment. Hope this helps someone.

Thank you for your valuable input on this ongoing scam. At first glance, I assumed you were defending it, but I see you are not. Gave you a merit for helping people learn the truth. Wink

Cheers!

If the difficulty stays the same, which it wont. Expect about 75 years......

In other words, never.

It's the BitClub dudes!

You get a BIT!
hero member
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Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
In other words, the rate of payback is about 9.6% of my investment after about 7 months. At this rate it will take about 2,062 days, or 5.6 more years, to recoup my investment. Hope this helps someone.

Thank you for your valuable input on this ongoing scam. At first glance, I assumed you were defending it, but I see you are not. Gave you a merit for helping people learn the truth. Wink

Cheers!

If the difficulty stays the same, which it wont. Expect about 75 years......

In other words, never.
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