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Topic: BitClub Network: MLM promises, false testimonials and PoS coin - AVOID - page 4. (Read 62211 times)

legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
Bitclub Network profits materialize excruciatingly slow (unless you recruit others MLM-style). Basic retail recruits like me "invest" dollars, and they dribble pennies back at you over an incredibly long period of time. Here's my story: In June 2017, I invested the basic $603 — i.e., $99 plus the basic mining package — in the form of 0.24 Bitcoin (the price of BTC was $2,470.10 at the time). After more than 200 days, so far I've pulled back 0.023 Bitcoin. In other words, the rate of payback is about 9.6% of my investment after about 7 months. At this rate it will take about 2,062 days, or 5.6 more years, to recoup my investment. Hope this helps someone.

Thank you for your valuable input on this ongoing scam. At first glance, I assumed you were defending it, but I see you are not. Gave you a merit for helping people learn the truth. Wink

Cheers!
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 3
Bitclub Network profits materialize excruciatingly slow (unless you recruit others MLM-style). Basic retail recruits like me "invest" dollars, and they dribble pennies back at you over an incredibly long period of time. Here's my story: In June 2017, I invested the basic $603 — i.e., $99 plus the basic mining package — in the form of 0.24 Bitcoin (the price of BTC was $2,470.10 at the time). After more than 200 days, so far I've pulled back 0.023 Bitcoin. In other words, the rate of payback is about 9.6% of my investment after about 7 months. At this rate it will take about 2,062 days, or 5.6 more years, to recoup my investment. Hope this helps someone.
full member
Activity: 670
Merit: 120
TIME TO BAN THE YOBIT SCAM!!
These BitClub noob shill accounts just don't stop coming...... Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
I read about all the negative things related to Bitclub, but decided to invest because I had a friend that visited the Iceland mining facility and she said it seemed impressive. She also proved to me that they were mining on the Blockchain. So far, I have no complaints and they have been paying my mining profits. If you have a question about Bitclub just ask and I will try to answer.

I did the same Wink

So, it's not a scam to you?
newbie
Activity: 121
Merit: 0
I read about all the negative things related to Bitclub, but decided to invest because I had a friend that visited the Iceland mining facility and she said it seemed impressive. She also proved to me that they were mining on the Blockchain. So far, I have no complaints and they have been paying my mining profits. If you have a question about Bitclub just ask and I will try to answer.

I did the same Wink
hero member
Activity: 1438
Merit: 574
Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong
If you have a question about Bitclub just ask and I will try to answer.

I have a question:

How many more fake/shill accounts are you going to use to promote this scam?

Name:    hemasaram
Posts:    4
Activity:    4
Position:    Newbie
Date Registered:    January 13, 2018, 04:05:22 AM
Last Active:    Today at 04:35:06 AM

4 posts since registering yesterday - all 4 posts defending this BitClub scam..... Roll Eyes

Give it a rest.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
It’s a typical MLM scam. Nothing new. Most of investors must write good reviews to find new refs.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1126
oh  since  there is a topic about BitClubNetwork I will post my 5c here !!!
My mom  deposited with them 500USD ( +99UDS membership fee)  in the end of march, now they promissed  she can withdraw anytime and in will be in her wallet in 48 hours,  no fee...
not true.
We have asked for a withdraw and gave it some time, after 3 days there were nothing in her wallet,  we have opened a ticket
after 2 days of opening the ticket she got paid, all in all it's about half of what she had deposited. SO really cant talk about  profit here yet.

There were also some bitcoincash  credited during the fork to her wallet to make it look legit we requested the withdraw of that too.... it never came to her wallet. and I mean NEVER and the ticket in still pending.
I will be happy if she can at least get back what she deposited, her upline told her not to withdraw but to reinvest " to get more profit" yeah right.

so.
the payments are SLOW ( 5 days and a support ticket is not fast at all )   the support is not replying, foolish members are asked to keep reinvesting and all withdrawals under 2 Bitcoin will be charged an automatic fee of 0.002 Bitcoin ( probably just to make sure you will not withdraw too soon )

I will update if I have any improvements but  this is  not a legit project  to me



Just to be totally fair this is my update.  I finally received my payouts on November  6 and 13 !  since then I have almost x2 these money on poloniex
this has not yet cover  the invested money  and I have calculated to my mom that if she would  just go ahead and invest these dollars into bitcoin straight on she would have had x14 to her investment right now....
I do not recomend this project to anyone and I hope that at least we can get what was invested/

You
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have calculated to my mom
Is that even legal in your country?

newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
oh  since  there is a topic about BitClubNetwork I will post my 5c here !!!
My mom  deposited with them 500USD ( +99UDS membership fee)  in the end of march, now they promissed  she can withdraw anytime and in will be in her wallet in 48 hours,  no fee...
not true.
We have asked for a withdraw and gave it some time, after 3 days there were nothing in her wallet,  we have opened a ticket
after 2 days of opening the ticket she got paid, all in all it's about half of what she had deposited. SO really cant talk about  profit here yet.

There were also some bitcoincash  credited during the fork to her wallet to make it look legit we requested the withdraw of that too.... it never came to her wallet. and I mean NEVER and the ticket in still pending.
I will be happy if she can at least get back what she deposited, her upline told her not to withdraw but to reinvest " to get more profit" yeah right.

so.
the payments are SLOW ( 5 days and a support ticket is not fast at all )   the support is not replying, foolish members are asked to keep reinvesting and all withdrawals under 2 Bitcoin will be charged an automatic fee of 0.002 Bitcoin ( probably just to make sure you will not withdraw too soon )

I will update if I have any improvements but  this is  not a legit project  to me



Just to be totally fair this is my update.  I finally received my payouts on November  6 and 13 !  since then I have almost x2 these money on poloniex
this has not yet cover  the invested money  and I have calculated to my mom that if she would  just go ahead and invest these dollars into bitcoin straight on she would have had x14 to her investment right now....
I do not recomend this project to anyone and I hope that at least we can get what was invested/
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1035
Quite a long time I did not look at this thread. Has anyone proven to this scammers that they don't have enough power to cover the cost of maintaining this pyramid?
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
Thanks everyone for all of this good information. I went to a meetup about Bitcoin this afternoon and it turned into a BitClub Network pitch.

Most everything sounded very plausible (except the slide which claimed that the power cooling costs would be $0 because "hydro and geothermal" and "It's in Iceland", which I made a point of to the meeting organizer). In fact, the organizer was very low key overall and didn't even hard sell the MLM side of things - we actually had to ask her to explain it to us.

Bottom line.. I was really sold and had her create an account for me, with a plan to go home and do some research on this before I invested. However, she then told everyone we had to download the Opera browser for it to work. That seemed very odd. I've never used Opera on a PC before. But, okay. When I asked why, she told us it that Bitcoin Club was being "smart" - since "everything you do is watched by the US government, even your internet activity", Bitcoin Club is blocking IP addresses in the US and Opera has a built-in VPN. Ah, sure, whatever... but then were told not only did we have to use a VPN, but we also had to set it to Canada or Europe, that way we could join, otherwise, we'd get a "warning" about no longer accepting U.S. investors because of SEC regulations, etc. HUGE RED FLAG!

However, I actually went through all of these "warnings" on the website (one "warning" was that they would refund ALL of my money if they found out I was in the US - not really that scary) and was still able to log in to the site. But doing a quick Google search lead me to this forum and several other websites which have confirmed my suspicions that the reason they stopped wanting U.S. investors is because they are selling unregistered securities, and, more importantly, they aren't able to sustain payouts to investors without money from new investors, which makes it a classic MLM pyramid scheme.

So, thanks for the all of the warnings about giving away my precious Bitcoin to something like this, and even more importantly, keeping me from roping my friends and coworkers into something that won't last. Unless I get some additional information and clarification on the math that show it's more than a total scam  - I'll update everyone here if it does and ask for feedback - I will be sitting this one out!


Quoting for our latest fanboy, Devonbuy.... Grin
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1126
The number of scams among ICO projects is just off scale! Maybe it's time to put into practice the publication of audit reports? This will undoubtedly increase the transparency of all ICO projects. Wink

Um... heard of blockchains?   Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
The number of scams among ICO projects is just off scale! Maybe it's time to put into practice the publication of audit reports? This will undoubtedly increase the transparency of all ICO projects. Wink
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0

Excellent inside report!

Many of us here have been scammed --multiple times.  We come here from time to time to warn others.

Those were all huge red flags!

If you had BTC & simply held it for the past 90 days, you doubled your value!

No MLM or any other kind of scheme can do that.

Just "HODL!"

Haha. So true. I'm at a point that even if Bitcoin was accepted everywhere that Visa was, there is no way I would spend Bitcoin on anything. HODL! (If my employer wanted to PAY me in BTC though... that would be an interesting decision...)
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1126

Excellent inside report!

Many of us here have been scammed --multiple times.  We come here from time to time to warn others.

Those were all huge red flags!

If you had BTC & simply held it for the past 90 days, you doubled your value!

No MLM or any other kind of scheme can do that.

Just "HODL!"
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
Thanks everyone for all of this good information. I went to a meetup about Bitcoin this afternoon and it turned into a BitClub Network pitch.

Most everything sounded very plausible (except the slide which claimed that the power cooling costs would be $0 because "hydro and geothermal" and "It's in Iceland", which I made a point of to the meeting organizer). In fact, the organizer was very low key overall and didn't even hard sell the MLM side of things - we actually had to ask her to explain it to us.

Bottom line.. I was really sold and had her create an account for me, with a plan to go home and do some research on this before I invested. However, she then told everyone we had to download the Opera browser for it to work. That seemed very odd. I've never used Opera on a PC before. But, okay. When I asked why, she told us it that Bitcoin Club was being "smart" - since "everything you do is watched by the US government, even your internet activity", Bitcoin Club is blocking IP addresses in the US and Opera has a built-in VPN. Ah, sure, whatever... but then were told not only did we have to use a VPN, but we also had to set it to Canada or Europe, that way we could join, otherwise, we'd get a "warning" about no longer accepting U.S. investors because of SEC regulations, etc. HUGE RED FLAG!

However, I actually went through all of these "warnings" on the website (one "warning" was that they would refund ALL of my money if they found out I was in the US - not really that scary) and was still able to log in to the site. But doing a quick Google search lead me to this forum and several other websites which have confirmed my suspicions that the reason they stopped wanting U.S. investors is because they are selling unregistered securities, and, more importantly, they aren't able to sustain payouts to investors without money from new investors, which makes it a classic MLM pyramid scheme.

So, thanks for the all of the warnings about giving away my precious Bitcoin to something like this, and even more importantly, keeping me from roping my friends and coworkers into something that won't last. Unless I get some additional information and clarification on the math that show it's more than a total scam  - I'll update everyone here if it does and ask for feedback - I will be sitting this one out!
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Classic scam scheme, avoid.
hero member
Activity: 723
Merit: 519
I've been mining with Bitclub Network since 2016.... so far so good.

Of course you have Mr Noob account with 6 posts...... Shocked Shocked

....after he was warned by others not to invest
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0

For someone who is supposedly being ignored, it's funny to see there are people still engaged in meaningless conversations over this. Nice! LOL...  Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1126




 Grin

WAT HE SAID!

Haven't you put him on *ignore* yet?

Who has time for that?

WAT!
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