Topic: Bitcoin Cash vs Bitcoin SV - page 9. (Read 24339 times)

BSV is Hardcore Bitcoiners the way Satoshi created it. None of this none bitcoin 3rd party  segregated witness (segwit) bullshit, aka creating banking channel or tinkering with max supply or what not.
It is a staunch community thats why they carry forward the creators way of bitcoin chain, aka Men to Men (Peer to Peer like in White paper) transaction.

ABC is Chinese miners version

I believe that the battle has already ended after nearly two weeks of the hash war. The SV camp had already stated that they do not want to claim the name of Bitcoin Cash, but rather the original Bitcoin. Now, SV claims to be the original Bitcoin (something that BCH claimed prior to the hash war). As for both cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin Cash (ABC) is now on its own side, while Bitcoin SV has separated ways by implementing Replay Protection.

Bitcoin SV is a fork of the original Bitcoin blockchain and the Bitcoin Cash blockchain. The huge block size of 128mb makes it far more scalable and capable than both BCH and BTC. However, this adds up a greater level of centralization if blocks become filled to their entirety. On the other hand, BCH has more a more flexible block size capacity, but it's also centralized (as it was shown in the hash war, that the ABC camp used centralized checkpoints to protect against block reorganizations from the SV camp).

Because of the reasons said before, I believe that none have won the battle. Both BCH and BSV have lost many investors and will soon lose their communities due to mistrust on the development team. People will turn themselves back to the original Bitcoin (BTC), while BCH and BSV will become history.

Nonetheless, time will tell us what will really happen with these forks since other altcoins have survived after being forked from their parent chains. Ethereum Classic is a good example of this, where it forked from the original Ethereum blockchain back in 2016, and it's still alive and running. The same thing could happen with both BCH and BSV. Just my thoughts

I hope that this battle will end soon and noone will win - both will die and the only one that survive will be Bitcoin Core.
Please explain to newcomers that Bitcoin SV is fork of fork of Bitcoin.

In my opinion, it is like to make a choice between dogs sheet and cats sheet. Both these coins are not worth to invest in them, because only original BTC is #1.

If you would be so kind and point me to the section of segregated witness (segwit) here is Bitcoins white paper
https://www.bitcoin.com/bitcoin.pdf

Creating a banking channel (lightning) is like opening a bank account and has nothing to do with original Bitcoin.
Satoshi's version  is Peer to Peer (Men to Men, Person to Person) without 3rd party. Unwanted, not necessary or needed.

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A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution.

I learning bitcoin cash graphics from the begining, I believe it will be popular and strong currency, better that other forks

I believe that the Bitcoin cash Bitcoin SV, neither of these plugs is not a good coin. If you buy only Bitcoin, the original.

today, Bitcoin and its counterparts are no longer relevant, and leading players in the cryptocurrency market are talking about this. the information space is filled with negative news regarding Bitcoin cache and other altcoin.

Cryptocurrencies are also worthy investment so those are not believe the crypto potential they only loose the hope in crypto investment. Bitcoin cash hard fork is completely change the market so Bitcoin SV is similar than Bitcoin cash but only drawback is little lower demand in these days it is affect the market cap. May be crypto will going to moon in 2019 or 2020 then only all are understand the potential of cryptocurrency.

Cryptocurrency this days is just overrun with worthless greedy money whores. Only care about get rich quick.
Hard core Bitcoiners, Satoshis implementation (Bitcoin SV) price is secondly, it will still be around long after everything else is gone.
Chines miners version ABC, future is uncertain. In my opinion i will outlive it.

Agree. Most forked coins are copies of the original Bitcoin blockchain with some minor modifications. They don't provide something unique that's innovative from the rest of the cryptocurrencies on the market. As such, people would see no reason investing into these coins, as they merely serve the same purpose as Bitcoin. Of course, Bitcoin Cash has been claiming to be the true Bitcoin for a long time. On the other hand, Bitcoin SV claims to be the original Bitcoin.

But at the end of the day, none would be able to provide the level of adoption, development, and support, Bitcoin has been giving to the world for a long time. Comparing BCH and BSV vs Bitcoin, they're highly centralized and relatively unstable. Bitcoin has far more security and reliability than both BCH and BSV combined, not to mention that it's decentralized, and no single entity oversees the future direction of the cryptocurrency. BCH has Roger Ver and Jihan Wu on its side, while BSV has Craig Wright and Calvin Ayre on its side. On the other hand, Bitcoin has no public figure, and everyone is on its side. There's never been a "Hash War", neither dangerous block size increases that would compromise the whole blockchain.

Which is why, I believe that Bitcoin would succeed in the end with its Lightning Network. It's the most decentralized approach yet for scaling (although not completely decentralized) that would enable anyone in the world to process transactions without requiring a high degree of storage and bandwidth for full nodes (unlike increasing the block size). The main chain could operate the same way as it is right now, while the LN (being a Layer-two solution) would take care of micropayments in an easier way.

Nonetheless, what the future holds for both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV is quite uncertain. For what I know, BCH and BSV's price combined is lesser than BCH's price prior to the hard fork on Nov 15th. That has a lot to say, as it could mean that investors have lost confidence in BCH and BSV. Just my thoughts

They are really two big jokes. The internal split caused the two coins to sharply depreciate. Now, BCH and bchsv are not friendly to their investors. In the future, people will not choose to buy bch, bchsv is more willing to buy bitcoin. I think they have lost their future.

fork coins can never become successful in the long run because they can not offer any real usages. it is simply due to the fact that they are mere copies of the original project which is doing everything they do in a much safer manner.
also keep in mind that they are going to be competing with a lot of altcoins that offer better usability than them.

Bitcoin cash and bitcoin sv, these two coins are almost similar, but I do not know the advantages of what these two coins have, in my opinion bitcoin is better than any coin, and of course bitcoin is more widely known and remains the top coin crypto

Bitcoin SV may have grown in price within the short term, but it could easily fail in the long term if it doesn't provide the world with real uses. This fork off the BCH blockchain, seems to be relatively unstable as it suffered a blockchain reorganization during the "Hash War". It's yet to be seen whenever the development team working on BSV strives for quality instead of quantity. Increasing the block size to 128mb is nothing if the cryptocurrency has issues in terms of stability and resiliency.

On the other hand, Bitcoin (BTC) is a reliable cryptocurrency which it's the most secure to date. The development team working on Bitcoin aims for quality in every way possible. That's why they've been careful when adopting scalable solutions for the BTC blockchain, as they don't want to mess with it in any way. The Lightning Network is believed that will scale Bitcoin safely as it helps maintain the cryptocurrency decentralized. Being a Layer-two solution, it won't have any negative impact on Bitcoin's main chain whatsoever. In case it fails, people could switch back to the main chain as usual.

Nonetheless, only time will tell us whenever both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV will survive or die. Just my opinion

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Although Bitcoin SV has shown a great growth, and it is in the top-10 now, I remember that Bitcoin will be always the best cryptocurrency. I will work with it and not with the forks as I trust BTC always.

I prefer bitcoin SV than bitcoin Cash, the performance of the bitcoin SV is certainly surprising, when the market is in a negative trend, bitcoin SV continues to improve and is now in the top 10 in coinmarketcap, and I'm happy to have a little balance and of course I hope the market will recover soon and making bitcoin SV continue to skyrocket.

Exactly. This shows how centralized BCH really is. A single entity or individual is responsible for the future direction of the BCH blockchain (which is Roger). On the other hand, Craig Wright along with Calvin Ayre, have a huge influence on the Bitcoin SV blockchain. Such cryptocurrencies will not go farther, as people realize how centralized they are. They would essentially become Ripple 2.0 with their rapidly-increasing block sizes affecting decentralization (as costs would be higher to run a full node).

Nonetheless, what matters most is that Bitcoin is still alive and leading the way among the large number of cryptocurrencies on the market. No matter what it's said, Bitcoin (BTC) is still the original Bitcoin. SegWit and LN was only needed to help address scalability issues and transaction malleability. Compared with block size increases, it's the most decentralized approach yet. Just my thoughts

Of course, roger beliefs will not allow competitors to get ahead of their project and in particular its project will come first