Topic: Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare - page 13. (Read 143074 times)

Ok, both sites are scams.
One is young scam and second is old scam with thousands users and hundreds of paid bitcoins

Hashflare thread is where u post that Hashflare is a scam.

Stop posting this in hashflare topic. Post this in crypterra's topic https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypterranet-professional-cryptocurrencies-mining-company-2042698 . But in those topic all know that crypterra is greatest scam ever

That link has zero credibility, there is no proof those people that have posted 5 times each here on the forum have invested anything at all. this post was created the same day, i started a page about Crypterra, and i suspect it was one of the haters i discussed with there, that made the posting himself to serve as "proof" There is no account for scam on Youtube, on the other hand you have lots of people that have invested with them for 6 months.

Hasflare is a scam cause they wont pay you out, they are a scam cause they said they raise prices cause it was no mining equipment available, even after they themselves admitted they secured all equipment they need, they charge double what the should from counting what a s9 miner actually costs. They are a scam cause they dident honor lifetime contracts, that was paid for, that is even illegal, since its against European law, and they will get sued for it. 1 Party can not change this type of agreement one sided without renegotiation. Since they have registered within EU this will be their fate, they will have to reimburse.
If hashflare dident take advantage of small investors, it would still be profitable, but since they are greedy, it seems they have committed suicide.
All i hear is "Hasflare was so good before" exactly, that is how scams work, they work until they cant fulfill, then they shut down.

Just because Hasflare has been around, dosent means they will stay around, they have screwed to many customers, and internet is full of disguist against them, "never again doing business with russians" etc etc

The great thing on this "hashflare VS crypterra" issue is, time will tell which is scam and which is not.
I personally wouldnt invest a huge amount on a new platform, especially not when on the first research you get threads like this, and there is no proof they are actually mining.

Hashflare has been around for years and is the best cloudmining atm, if you dont like the conditions of their contract dont use them.
If you havent purchased a contract months ago, getting a new contract indeed isnt profitable in the current situation (BTC-price / difficulty / TH price), but that doesnt mean hashflare is scam.

That video is not available, it was yesterday, it says that in the video.

"all of my old hashpower was grandfathered in as forever"

LOLZ u really something, its deleted as in forever in September.

And yes no daily payouts, that was what you claimed. in fact u will never see a payout again, since u cant keep up with increase in difficulty, so i predict your contracts will get expired in about 6 months or less. Come back then and cry.

You have a very childish tone.

Payment proofs:

https://prnt.sc/i1yrfz
https://prnt.sc/i1yrm8

Hashrate proofs:

https://prnt.sc/i1ys17
https://prnt.sc/i1ysrq
https://prnt.sc/i1ysk5
https://prnt.sc/i1ysyh
https://prnt.sc/i1yt3x

When Hashflare made the decision to make their contracts yearly instead of forever, all of my old hashpower was grandfathered in as forever. Nothing was stolen from me. I have made plenty more than what I originally invested.

Proof of mining: https://hashflare.io/data-center/ there are pictures.
Before you lash out again like you did, please show me proof-of-mining from your ponzi site. Everything you say is invalid otherwise.
 I don't mean any BS videos. I mean pictures of their data center. Pictures or videos of miners, not a facebook conversation.

Have a Blast

Crypterra Has New Facebook Page With PROOF It's REAL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRVP9_yDRDQ

You are the liar here, this is proven, u talk about daily payouts when this is impossible, ther is plenty proof that people fail to send bitcoins in time, for expiring orders due to the congestion of the blockchain, its on Crypterra possible to pay with litecoin, Crypterra is in ultra high expansion cause users are flowing in on the double, and they have not been able to keep up.

This has been the case for Hashflare aswell, this thread is filled with all complaints, and Hasflare aint here to defemd themselves either. Cause they have no case against what i say,.. everything bad about Hasflare is well proven, its sad it is that way, but im heading for the exit now, nothing else to do, if i stay i get no money at all.

Atleast Crypterra cares about their problems, the have posted this on their website:

LOL u cant even find stuff on internet dude, ye i will dig it up for you. its you who is all talk, trying to defend a proven dishonest company, just cause u bought hashes for 1.2 USD u think all is fine now, cause u cant even read what people say to you, or cant understand, or both. remember that Crypterra charge 1,28 Usd for 10 Ghash, and this is why i invest with them, even at that level, ROI is almost 5 months, and this is the reason why Hashflare will implode. Even if i reinvest all income, my Hash at hashflare will disappear, cause i make less money than the difficulty increases allow me to buy more hashpower for, and so it will be no matter what you do, every reinvestment is all the same.

I have also said i will change my mind if they cut down the prices, Hasflare clkaimed that they had to raise price cause it was difficult to find mining equipment, but after that they have gone in public and said that they have secured computers, they still not lower the prices, i remember that they jacked up the prices to 2.4 usd at the same time they stole the lifetime contracts, i stopped reinvest at that point also, later they changed to 1.5 usd per 10 Ghash, so it was profitable again.

If i start reinvest, i will be open minded about that, but as of now, i will drain out every cent, and put it where i can grow it, just not deplete it.

Btw why are you lying that u get paid out every day when u have only a few TH, limit is 0,05 Bitcoin which makes it 200 days between payout, since u make 2.78 a day

Lowest payout is 556.15 USD as of the price for Bitcoin right now.

Also, the user Crypterra owner of the bitcointalk topic about his business STILL hasn't been active. People are complaining saying they haven't recieved any returns on their mining contracts. Link me one video showing Crypterra's miners and I'll shut up, otherwise stop lying to everyone.

Often times Hashflare has higher payouts than bitcoin calculators due to the increased fees on transactions. You are doing an awful lot of talking without any proof. Searched youtube, again Crypterra has no videos proving their hashing power when Hashflare does. Again, have any links for proof? Cause you're doing an awful lot of talking without anything to back it up.

You must be stupid son, anyone that invest today, or reinvest today, can never get profit with hashflare.

I have around 14 TH so im well invested in Hasflare, still my payouts from Genesis is way higher per TH, also they are higher on Crypterra.
Its you who says its a fake company, i on my part has put my money where my mouth is, people have signed up with link, below, They where registered flawlessly, i only got 0,8 Th so far, but i will get a payout in a few days, cause the limit is at 10 USD, so i look forward to that, Reason i even bother to post about all this is that most people have no clue, and needs someone to tell them, you on the other hand, why do you defend Hasflare, when its clear that:

They cheat on referrals

They steal from your commission, cuz the fee they charge you is not sent when they do a payout

If you are a small investor, you will never get paid before the contract expires

Hashflare overcharge double the cost of a hash from an S9

Hashflare will not be profitable, use this calculator: http://www.mycryptobuddy.com/BitcoinMiningCalculator/path?hashrate=1&poolFee=17 put 220 USD as hardware cost and see the reality

Hashflare stole all lifetime contracts without any chance to get refunded

You have not provided proof for what you have said, so provide proof or shut up, if you can bring anything i said as a lie, provide it.

You have never invested with crypterra, i have thats why i know what i know, Crypterra seems legit,  also other people will know, Hasflare will not survive unless the cut price in half almost and lands at the same price as crypterra, this will likely not happen, also the founder of Hashflare is busy opening a bank, so maybe they throw Hasflare under the bus any time soon, it wont survive selling non profit mining any long period of time, unless to people who have forgotten to switch off reinvesting.

I bought 1 th/s back when Hashflare first opened in early 2015 (January I think). I built that up to 2.28 th/s with many withdrawals in the process. I now have that same 2.28 th/s and it pays out. Every day. I have never had a problem with hashflare. They are legit, they have proof of mining, and they do a somewhat decent job running their company. Out of curiosity, why are you trying so hard to promote a fake company on a thread that has nothing to do with them?

Lmao thats is fake accounts, they have like 15 post in total, Hashflare is the scam, no payouts, no profit. They have showed prooof of mining equipment in Video on youtube. Go find it, Also hashflare is accused of the same, one of Hasflare staff went out last week and promised real time videos etc.

Stop the nonense, you will lose money if you buy hash at Hasflare, its against laws of physics to be able to make money as it is.

If you cant understand that, and just want to feel comfy, go ahead, you have been warned. Go for profits, not bullshit. why invest 100 dollar today, and get 70 back in a year?

There is also numerous proof Hasflare steals your referrals, aswells as cheats on the payout fee, aswell as the return from the pools, we have many here that can testify to that.

Only posting this to discourage users from using Crypterra.net anyone who is even considering this as a serious mining investment please review the following evidence and how unresponsive the owner of the site is at the link that was posted above. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042698.20)
As of right now, there is NO visual proof of any miners nor have they disclosed any active server locations. How unresponsive the owner of the site is on a forum that he started seems to be worrisome as well.

Cheers everyone and keep your BTC safe from ponzi's

Please link me proof of their mining equipment.

"both of them" speaks for itself, happy reinvesting and RIP Hashflare is a dead horse, and Genesis has nothing to offer. says it all.
And btw its not "my" Crypterra" but i do promote it, and i have the right to.

And yes Crypterra has shown Video proof of mining equipment, so wrong again.

Thread is wide open, people understand to not argue about the facts, dont try to be a gatekeeper, especially when u have no understanding of mining and the factors that control it. But i do want you to speak your mind, im not against it, see im all for knowledge, and i dont try to gate-keep. So stop that, or not

Yes u where, since profit is 15% on a month, and difficulty rise is like 39%, and wrong again Usi tech was first to close shop, US jurisdiction, not exit scams etc.

Laugh all u want, the governments of the world is against all of crypto, cry scams, but the real scams is the government.

Just look what happened to Bitconnect.
I guess next is Usi-Tech, followed by Tether.
You really should do your research before sending money anywhere.

Difficulty is jumping up crazy, maybe I was a bit too optimistic with only 18% difficulty increase every 10 days.

When BTC prices and difficulty keep moving at these rates, I am looking forward to see how many people will keep mining at a loss.

Current daily revenue for 1 TH is USD 1,44 minus USD 0,32 electricity @1 cent / kwh.