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Topic: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it - page 192. (Read 215360 times)

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The amount of space that 2^67 lines of text would take up in a .txt file depends on the length of each line.
line: 20000000000000000(17 char) 1LgpDjsqkxF9cTkz3UYSbdTJuvbZ45PKvx (34 char) 17+34 = 51
total number of characters as follows:
2^67 lines * 51 characters per line = 3,689,348,814,741,248 characters
Each character takes up 1 byte of storage in a .txt file, so we can convert the total number of characters to bytes as follows:
3,689,348,814,741,248 bytes = 3,689,348,814,741 kilobytes (KB)
3,689,348,814,741 KB = 3,600,116,533 megabytes (MB)
3,600,116,533 MB = 3,515,203 terabytes (TB)
Therefore, if each line contains 51 characters, 2^67 lines of text would take up approximately 3,515,203 terabytes of space in a .txt file.
As of 2021, it is estimated that Google has over 2.5 million servers located in data centers around the world, with a total storage capacity of around 10 exabytes (10,000,000 terabytes) or more.
So, let us persuade Google to allocate 35% of its storage space to accommodate the data for our website.
The worst discussion I have seen in the entire thread till date is in these 2 to 3 pages.

Who said we're talking about 2^67 ??
I'm talking about 2^256 .. can Google or the whole universe contain that?
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The amount of space that 2^67 lines of text would take up in a .txt file depends on the length of each line.
line: 20000000000000000(17 char) 1LgpDjsqkxF9cTkz3UYSbdTJuvbZ45PKvx (34 char) 17+34 = 51
total number of characters as follows:

That is the worst way to store that informacion, to store it you need to store the data in its RAW data fot the address you only need the RMD hash in raw data it is only 20 bytes.

For the privatekey there is two options, don't store the private key because you will not sort the Addresses or Store the private key because you want to Sort the addresses

If you decide to store the private key you only need 9 bytes for it... in that case you only need 29 bytes.

If you decide NOT store the private key you only need 20 bytes for the hash rmd.

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The amount of space that 2^67 lines of text would take up in a .txt file depends on the length of each line.
line: 20000000000000000(17 char) 1LgpDjsqkxF9cTkz3UYSbdTJuvbZ45PKvx (34 char) 17+34 = 51
total number of characters as follows:
2^67 lines * 51 characters per line = 3,689,348,814,741,248 characters
Each character takes up 1 byte of storage in a .txt file, so we can convert the total number of characters to bytes as follows:
3,689,348,814,741,248 bytes = 3,689,348,814,741 kilobytes (KB)
3,689,348,814,741 KB = 3,600,116,533 megabytes (MB)
3,600,116,533 MB = 3,515,203 terabytes (TB)
Therefore, if each line contains 51 characters, 2^67 lines of text would take up approximately 3,515,203 terabytes of space in a .txt file.
As of 2021, it is estimated that Google has over 2.5 million servers located in data centers around the world, with a total storage capacity of around 10 exabytes (10,000,000 terabytes) or more.
So, let us persuade Google to allocate 35% of its storage space to accommodate the data for our website.
The worst discussion I have seen in the entire thread till date is in these 2 to 3 pages.

The last comment x2
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The amount of space that 2^67 lines of text would take up in a .txt file depends on the length of each line.
line: 20000000000000000(17 char) 1LgpDjsqkxF9cTkz3UYSbdTJuvbZ45PKvx (34 char) 17+34 = 51
total number of characters as follows:
2^67 lines * 51 characters per line = 3,689,348,814,741,248 characters
Each character takes up 1 byte of storage in a .txt file, so we can convert the total number of characters to bytes as follows:
3,689,348,814,741,248 bytes = 3,689,348,814,741 kilobytes (KB)
3,689,348,814,741 KB = 3,600,116,533 megabytes (MB)
3,600,116,533 MB = 3,515,203 terabytes (TB)
Therefore, if each line contains 51 characters, 2^67 lines of text would take up approximately 3,515,203 terabytes of space in a .txt file.
As of 2021, it is estimated that Google has over 2.5 million servers located in data centers around the world, with a total storage capacity of around 10 exabytes (10,000,000 terabytes) or more.
So, let us persuade Google to allocate 35% of its storage space to accommodate the data for our website.
The worst discussion I have seen in the entire thread till date is in these 2 to 3 pages.
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What is the fastest way to search multiple pubkeys? bsgs or kangaroo?? How many pubkeys can I search at one time? Huh Huh Huh

It really depends on what your plan of attack is.
Sometimes it’s kangaroo, sometimes it’s BSGS and believe it or not, sometimes it’s brute force.
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What is the fastest way to search multiple pubkeys? bsgs or kangaroo?? How many pubkeys can I search at one time? Huh Huh Huh


Tried up to 160,000 pubs on keyhunt BSGS before.
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What is the fastest way to search multiple pubkeys? bsgs or kangaroo?? How many pubkeys can I search at one time? Huh Huh Huh
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What Albert is saying; the keys aren’t ‘stored’ in some list on that website or any other website like it.

When a user clicks on a page, the website uses your cpu power to generate, the whole Bitcoin priv key to public address, at that time, on the fly.

Think about it, there isn’t enough memory/hard drive in the world to hold 2^256 keys, pub address, etc.

Using that site is pure brute forcing, page by page, which is eleventy million billion times slower than current programs.


i think your confuesed on what i mean yes 100% their stored it litterly tells you all private keys directory. but in all their skipped please go back and read what i said. if key #65 is in the puzzle on page 509472955201070048 theres no possible way that key was added to the list of private keys with there being a gap to fill meaning on page
 509472955201070048 before puzzle #65  was found the order of private keys on the page went see how the ending numnber doesnt go in order by 0-9 a-f it skipped a key knowing that id copy and paste the before key and change the last character to its right key this being the number 67.

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26864
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26865
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26866
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26868
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26869

this is what the list looks like when #65 puzzle was added there is no way possible that you could have put 65 on that page unless the key was missing.
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26864
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26865
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26866
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26867
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26868
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26869

 knowing this info the main website and the one i found have in order from 0-9 a-f increasing in 1 bit when finishing its rotation on 0-9 a-f . there no nothing their litterly in order the ending number of the private key start at 0 going 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-a-b-c-d-e-f-0-1-2 ect on one of these pages there HAS TO BE a skip in the pattern if not id be able to hold "CTRL F' search the p2pkh address and find what page 66 private key is on. test it yourself go to all private keys and btc. hold CTRL AND F type in a found puzzles p2pkh and itll take you to it type in a non found puzzle and its not in the data of the website



easier way to explain it say you have the following numbers. you cant just add a "new" 7 its already there on one page it goes 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

 you guys also dont think that your computer couldnt find a missing 1 digit character in a sequence of numbers and letter that don't change  rather than finding the missing 17 by its self HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?



yes your scanning litterly trillions of page data but are you not also trying trillions of key combos in brute force Huh?? all im saying is that using brute force you guessing randomly a 17 digit code. my way your scanning a 17 digit code looking for the last letter error or skipped character in sequence. id say your odds at finding one random character and guessing the whole 17 digit code is ,much easier.


If you dont believe me just do what i said gto look everything up its all there except for non cracked keys every other page is in order no skipped lines eventually on some pages finding in the list the other puzzles that were solved. again theres no way possible those keys were added to that list with a gab being there litterly no possible way. even though they arent say what your saying is true. there is no data  base that holds all keys. then how is puzzle #65 found on page 509472955201070048 Huh there had to be a skip in the keys to fill the gap. if not you could just go use CTRL F search the entire webpage data base for a p2pkh address if you type 66 its nothing found if you type any cracked puzzles p2pkh itll go to that page. if someone wants to talk over discord and i can computer screen share for a group thatd be alot easier than typing it out my discord is Otw2f#9888



if thats not the case the someone explain how all other puzzles that were found were just randomly added to the data sheet of keys ? itd be impossible unless its the first or last key on the page which it is because again you cant take and add a 7 into it youd have to have a gap to fill either a missing 7 and or the key found would be at the start or end of every page because that the only place one can add to without breaking the chain of 0-9 a-f as in i could only add 0 or 11 to my list i couldn't just toss that ending 7 in there with one already there btc private keys cannot be switched to different addresses.
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Did you understand now? its a script
see here

https://github.com/TheZ3ro/bitcoin-privatekey-db/blob/master/server.py

there is no pages,, its generated by you own computer the page that you click and random choosen ad the user explained to you, so dont waste your time here explaining to us 10 times your idea,

Google, Microsoft, IBM, Oracle and all other big names combined can't hold the amount of data that the pvt key space consists of. If this doesn't convince him, I don't know what else to say.

Edit: wait, actually that was a naiive example. Here's another one: the total amount of pvt keys equal - give or take - the amount of atoms in the entire universe.

Imagine having the delusion to believe a website can hold this much data 😂
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What Albert is saying; the keys aren’t ‘stored’ in some list on that website or any other website like it.

When a user clicks on a page, the website uses your cpu power to generate, the whole Bitcoin priv key to public address, at that time, on the fly.

Think about it, there isn’t enough memory/hard drive in the world to hold 2^256 keys, pub address, etc.

Using that site is pure brute forcing, page by page, which is eleventy million billion times slower than current programs.


i think your confuesed on what i mean yes 100% their stored it litterly tells you all private keys directory. but in all their skipped please go back and read what i said. if key #65 is in the puzzle on page 509472955201070048 theres no possible way that key was added to the list of private keys with there being a gap to fill meaning on page
 509472955201070048 before puzzle #65  was found the order of private keys on the page went see how the ending numnber doesnt go in order by 0-9 a-f it skipped a key knowing that id copy and paste the before key and change the last character to its right key this being the number 67.

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26864
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26865
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26866
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26868
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26869

this is what the list looks like when #65 puzzle was added there is no way possible that you could have put 65 on that page unless the key was missing.
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26864
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26865
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26866
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26867
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26868
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001a838b13505b26869

 knowing this info the main website and the one i found have in order from 0-9 a-f increasing in 1 bit when finishing its rotation on 0-9 a-f . there no nothing their litterly in order the ending number of the private key start at 0 going 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-a-b-c-d-e-f-0-1-2 ect on one of these pages there HAS TO BE a skip in the pattern if not id be able to hold "CTRL F' search the p2pkh address and find what page 66 private key is on. test it yourself go to all private keys and btc. hold CTRL AND F type in a found puzzles p2pkh and itll take you to it type in a non found puzzle and its not in the data of the website



easier way to explain it say you have the following numbers. you cant just add a "new" 7 its already there on one page it goes 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

 you guys also dont think that your computer couldnt find a missing 1 digit character in a sequence of numbers and letter that don't change  rather than finding the missing 17 by its self HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?



yes your scanning litterly trillions of page data but are you not also trying trillions of key combos in brute force Huh?? all im saying is that using brute force you guessing randomly a 17 digit code. my way your scanning a 17 digit code looking for the last letter error or skipped character in sequence. id say your odds at finding one random character and guessing the whole 17 digit code is ,much easier.


If you dont believe me just do what i said gto look everything up its all there except for non cracked keys every other page is in order no skipped lines eventually on some pages finding in the list the other puzzles that were solved. again theres no way possible those keys were added to that list with a gab being there litterly no possible way. even though they arent say what your saying is true. there is no data  base that holds all keys. then how is puzzle #65 found on page 509472955201070048 Huh there had to be a skip in the keys to fill the gap. if not you could just go use CTRL F search the entire webpage data base for a p2pkh address if you type 66 its nothing found if you type any cracked puzzles p2pkh itll go to that page. if someone wants to talk over discord and i can computer screen share for a group thatd be alot easier than typing it out my discord is Otw2f#9888



if thats not the case the someone explain how all other puzzles that were found were just randomly added to the data sheet of keys ? itd be impossible unless its the first or last key on the page which it is because again you cant take and add a 7 into it youd have to have a gap to fill either a missing 7 and or the key found would be at the start or end of every page because that the only place one can add to without breaking the chain of 0-9 a-f as in i could only add 0 or 11 to my list i couldn't just toss that ending 7 in there with one already there btc private keys cannot be switched to different addresses.
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8
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11

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]


Did you understand now? its a script
see here

https://github.com/TheZ3ro/bitcoin-privatekey-db/blob/master/server.py

there is no pages,, its generated by you own computer the page that you click and random choosen ad the user explained to you, so dont waste your time here explaining to us 10 times your idea,
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Lol you don't get it yet do ya? I can use a kiddy python script to create an address like the one above using an invalid pvt key.. but you know what that means? It means that i have an address that i will never be able to use.. why? Because I DO NOT KNOW THE PVT KEY THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPEND FROM IT. the out-of-range pvt key i posted happens to hash its way to that address, but it's not able to spend from it. Get it? The word "invalid" is not an accessory. It literally means you're screwed if you use it

Would you like to put your money on it? Go ahead and send a few bucks to it, and watch how I spend from it. You don't get it yet do ya? !!!

Come on now😉

Not so fond of sending stuff to a dead address .. Why not you do in and out txs from it right now and be my hero?

Edit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ypgyd/how_does_the_range_of_valid_ecdsa_private_keys/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Reading the above post, it proves that generating from out of range keys will let it roll over again, meaning you still didn't get out of the pvt key range. You and me were wrong lol. I was wrong when i implied we could hash our way to the address using such pvt key. You were wrong when you thought the key is valid.
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Lol you don't get it yet do ya? I can use a kiddy python script to create an address like the one above using an invalid pvt key.. but you know what that means? It means that i have an address that i will never be able to use.. why? Because I DO NOT KNOW THE PVT KEY THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPEND FROM IT. the out-of-range pvt key i posted happens to hash its way to that address, but it's not able to spend from it. Get it? The word "invalid" is not an accessory. It literally means you're screwed if you use it

Would you like to put your money on it? Go ahead and send a few bucks to it, and watch how I spend from it. You don't get it yet do ya? !!!

Come on now😉
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fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 .. there are also invalid public keys. The reason is  there are pub keys that lie outside the curve. But i gotta agree that the mentioned pubs above are interesting, especially knowing that one of their addresses is a used one.
There is no such a thing as invalid private or public key, whatever private key you think is invalid or outside the range, I will prove you wrong if you just show it to me.

Deal! Prove me wrong, type this pvt key into the "view details" page in bitaddress.org and if you get an address out of it I'll send you 5 BTC:

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364142
You can keep your bitcoins, of course above the range no value could be considered a valid key, but here is your address 13wLt3CDiHDiiNKtmj5pH6LGJM9JZGcEXZ

Guys please refrain from consecutive posts, it's not cool.
Just get back at skipping pages one by one, you could search at least 20 million pages by the end of the year! 😉

Lol you don't get it yet do ya? I can use a kiddy python script to create an address like the one above using an invalid pvt key.. but you know what that means? It means that i have an address that i will never be able to use.. why? Because I DO NOT KNOW THE PVT KEY THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPEND FROM IT. the out-of-range pvt key i posted happens to hash its way to that address, but it's not able to spend from it. Get it? The word "invalid" is not an accessory. It literally means you're screwed if you use it
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Who in the world invented the false info that #66 would take 100ish TB lool .. #66 is 17 digits but let's say it's only 16 ok? Now even a 14 digit puzzle would take on your hard drive almost 61,000 TB 😘 (that is, removing all leading zeros before the 14 digits AND not showing their corresponding addresses) I'll let you imagine how much space would #66 need then.


chat gpt said:

One gigabyte (GB) is equivalent to 1,073,741,824 bytes. Therefore, the disk space required to store the numbers between 2^65 and 2^66 is approximately 39,614,081,257,132,288 bytes / 1,073,741,824 bytes/GB ≈ 36.9 GB.

I'm in aw .. you basically trimmed down the size needed to store 36.8 million trillion lines into a file that merely can store 8-character puzzle. Amazing.

If it's too low in size, do it on your computer right now, meet me after your computer hard disk runs out of everything.

Edit: 36 gig will store 5 billion lines at max.
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fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140 .. there are also invalid public keys. The reason is  there are pub keys that lie outside the curve. But i gotta agree that the mentioned pubs above are interesting, especially knowing that one of their addresses is a used one.
There is no such a thing as invalid private or public key, whatever private key you think is invalid or outside the range, I will prove you wrong if you just show it to me.

Deal! Prove me wrong, type this pvt key into the "view details" page in bitaddress.org and if you get an address out of it I'll send you 5 BTC:

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364142
You can keep your bitcoins, of course above the range no value could be considered a valid key, but here is your address 13wLt3CDiHDiiNKtmj5pH6LGJM9JZGcEXZ

Guys please refrain from consecutive posts, it's not cool.
Just get back at skipping pages one by one, you could search at least 20 million pages by the end of the year! 😉
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Who in the world invented the false info that #66 would take 100ish TB? lool ..

 #66 is 17-characters but let's say it's only 16 ok?

Now even a 14-characters puzzle would take on your hard drive almost 61,000 TB 😘 (that is, removing all leading zeros before the 14 digits AND not showing their corresponding addresses) I'll let you imagine how much space would #66 need then.
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You cannot find a balance on the mentioned web page because it's not displayed there. You also didn't find any unknown key. Simply said: you're just spamming with your new user account you created seconds ago, that's all

I put the address in block exploer its only like 0.00001 lol and dont jump to conclusions so quick.
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You cannot find a balance on the mentioned web page because it's not displayed there. You also didn't find any unknown key. Simply said: you're just spamming with your new user account you created seconds ago, that's all
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Long time lurker learner.

Question i found a balance on https://hashkeys.club//

Does that mean i have the keys ?
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#Day 3 Dear honey Satoshi, Here i'm asking you again my meister for some BTC
 
32NYX3imgf6nbegginJiqKLihowYzLaMe2B

Thanks Satoshi

If the person who made the puzzle sent me 1-2 bitcoins, it would be great if I could get rid of this crappy computer and join this competition with a new computer. Quantum computing cannot be done with this crappy old computer.

bc1qf992lpqk6dont6a22be70kwyukdisrespectful

Come on, stop this nonsense and childish begging. Show a little more respect. Do you really think that a person in his position would give you money? Earn it and start earning your dignity. Money comes last and then automatically.
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@Professor of wilds:

You obviously didn't understand the principle and people tried to explain to you in a friendly way where your thinking error is. Instead of listening and dealing with it, you continue to harp on about how your way of thinking is correct. You do not need to be surprised if you now reap such shitstorm. This is the answer to your disrespectful and aggressive way. In order not to stretch the bow further, again a short summary because the details I have already told you by DM.

I will use puzzle #159 as an example to clarify some key facts.

1.) The key you are looking for is somewhere in the range between 0x40000000000000000000000000000000 - 0x80000000000000000000000000000000. That means the range is 365,375,409,332,725,729,550,921,208,179,070,754,913,983,135,744. You have not understood what a monstrous number this is. However, one cannot blame you also, because we humans have problems to imagine such high numbers.

2) Remember: There is no magic website on planet Earth that has already hashed so many addresses in advance and knows the corresponding address. Not a single website on this world and not a single person on this planet has such a list. There is not a single computer on planet Earth that has stored the corresponding Bitcoin address for every single number in this range.

3) the reason why you see a list on hashkeys.club and similar websites is simple: the list is generated the moment you press the respective button (next +1,000 or next +10,000).

Why? --> See point 2. The lists are generated on-the-fly after you have pressed a button. The webserver generates 1,000 or 10,000 addresses in the background depending on which button you pressed. The corresponding addresses are calculated using the CPU power of the web server and are displayed as a result on the web page.

From the mentioned points for puzzle #159 the last page is therefore https://hashkeys.club/159/?page=365375409332725729550921208179070754913983136

This number corresponds to the number I gave you before.

And finally, here's a sentence to remember:

Every website is run by a website owner. Most of the time, the website owners have a close relationship with the content of their site. Either they are the owners or the programmers, in any case they are closely connected with it. If there ever was a human being who pre-calculated so many addresses (which is not possible because he would be some kind of dinosaur), he certainly would not spend trillions of dollars to buy disk space and build web pages so that you or I can retrieve that information. No, he would know the key and would have paid off the puzzle long ago. There are only a few people who are in the know of the private keys of this puzzle. Yes, read correctly. I wrote plural.

I really hope that you have understood the principle and now also understand what AlbertoBSD wanted to tell you when he asked you if you know the Dunning-Kruger effect. That was not meant badly by him, it should steer you however into the correct direction. We are all fallible, but insisting on something you don't yet understand won't get you anywhere. Asking questions can be helpful, however, I was once told Smiley

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