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May 31, 2017, 10:49:15 AM
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?

I disagree with your stance and support the previous poster (whose post I included in the quote). As to me, if we follow your logic there couldn't be self-employed people at all. Ultimately, the difference between self-employed and hired (or employed) lies in the equality (or lack thereof) of the parties involved. When you are employed, you follow the rules of your employer, i.e. you don't have a lot of leeway in respect to negotiating the terms of the contract (e.g. when you should work and how much). This is not the case with self-employment where you can put forward and negotiate your own conditions and provisions

Just the fact that it is still a job to be done is irrelevant and inconsequential to the issue

You just supported my stance rather than refuting it Smiley.  The one I quoted said that signature campaign is categorized as self-employed  stuff.  And your explanation justified my stance .  The discussion with my quoted reply solely revolves around signature campaign .
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May 31, 2017, 10:39:38 AM
With the bitcoin of people who have not got a job can easily earn income by working through the online system is by searching bitcoin.
But it's all done in earnest or just as hard work and requires high creativity to be able to easily collect bitcoin.
Bitcoin can also be said one alternative how we can make money where in when we have no real job or can be said where we are unemployed.
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May 31, 2017, 10:35:39 AM
I think yes, it reduces unemployment since it created an opportunity to some that used frequently online. Some here are already working at the convenient of their homes and having client in any part of the globe especially on graphic designs, web designs, sales etc.
Yeah right, bitcoin can indeed reduce unemployment because it can create an opportunity for someone to earn income. Especially for people who have this expertise is easy to do just by doing at home and the results are also great. But unfortunately not many people know this technology, many people are still strangers with bitcoin. Though I think if bitcoin is used by all these people can expand employment and reduce unemployment in large numbers.
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May 31, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
I do know a person wich is helping others with crypto offering them a source of income, the thing is that at some places the income from signatures as well other works is enought to they survive, soo they are doing the best they can trying to be at signatures, but those wich arent able to join are doing others tasks to get their daily income.
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May 31, 2017, 10:15:16 AM
I don't think that bitcoin will reduce unemployment because you need to have a proper knowledge on bitcoin,also one needs to spend a lot of time on it,it may be good enough for a part time job/temporary job ,but as a full time job ,bitcoin really needs to expand itself even more and also people need to know how to use their creative skills .

Same way when you want employment that is paid in fiat currency.  Remember you need to study for more than a decade to prepare yourself to have jobs.  You have to attend several pieces of training and seminars if you are applying for a job even before you are accepted.  This is no difference than learning bitcoins.
It is true that bitcoin reduces unemployment, in fact I know someone don't have a regular job but because of bitcoin their lifestyle change, their perspective also change they become business minded and become great investor so it is true that bitcoin really helps a lot.
yes no doubt about that and specially in backward countries where the unemployment is really a big problem. i think bitcoin is really giving good chance to the people to make livelihood. although it is not a permanent way of income because of the lot of fluctuation price of bitcoin, but still people are getting good profit from it, and hope that they will continue earning bitcoin for a long time.
Yes I too vote for this, bitcoin really reduced unemployment in many countries. And the sudden price increase helped many people to work for this bitcoin. This is a good income for those who works in online. Yes there is no other online job will give this much of money in online work. I heard in some backwards countries people are stoped regular job and started to earn more bitcoins to spend full time in bitcoin activity.
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May 31, 2017, 10:08:09 AM
Maybe that will be a result but think of it also,unemployed will be still legally unemployed even though they are earning in bitcoins,yeah they earn money but no more likely from a real job so they may still get considered as unemployed
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May 31, 2017, 10:03:38 AM
I met an old friend in a restaurant January, 2017. Who happened to be my junior while in the university three years ago. I was surprised when he told me that he has never been invited for a job interview till date. I now asked him, how do you survive then without a paid job? He told me whether I have an idea about bitcoin? And I reply him, no sir. He then explain everything about bitcoin and crypto currency to me, and that he has three  account at legend level. From the three account, the amount of Satoshi he make from signature campaign is not less than FIFTEEN MILLION Satoshi in a month different from the profit he makes from trading crypto currency. And the black market value of Bitcoin in my country is about 50% increase of the international value. I believe bitcoin reduces unemployment.

It does reduces since some unemployed were able to make money and provide their living from btc, same wuth their earning more than a job salary they can earn.
That is very true because we are one of the proof for that or i can be a proof for that, my elder brother was earning at least $1,000 per month (Worth of US Dollar in our country) and i was making at least $2,000 and that was x2 of my brother's salary and when i try to tell it to him, he was not believing me until i show him my wallet that is receiving bitcoin and he was so shocked and immediately beg me to teach him.
I wouldn't call that "employment" though.  Online marketing still exists, it's just that the inefficiencies of the market result in signature campaigns paying higher.  Plus, the people who pay signature campaigns tend to earn Bitcoin instead of fiat currency, meaning that their payouts can stay consistent while the price rises.

If it is the official government issued “unemployment” numbers that you are looking at, those probably went up based on Bitcoin, because those that earned money through Bitcoin are likely not listed as as employed via statistics.
Lastly, online business owners increasing over time means fewer brick and mortar stores in some business sectors and that mean a few less jobs out there.  This is a small number, as new jobs types were also created, and companies like Amazon and shipping companies have seen huge increases in volume and hired more people to cover the increase, basically evening out the loses.
 
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May 31, 2017, 09:08:53 AM
I totally agree that Bitcoin is alleviating unemployment in many countries. I for one, am one of the many of my generation who are technically JOBLESS in the real world and if it weren't for Bitcoin, I am sure I would have been on the streets at some point. Bitcoin saved me and my Family from total financial meltdown more than once.
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May 31, 2017, 08:58:20 AM
I don't think that bitcoin will reduce unemployment because you need to have a proper knowledge on bitcoin,also one needs to spend a lot of time on it,it may be good enough for a part time job/temporary job ,but as a full time job ,bitcoin really needs to expand itself even more and also people need to know how to use their creative skills .

Same way when you want employment that is paid in fiat currency.  Remember you need to study for more than a decade to prepare yourself to have jobs.  You have to attend several pieces of training and seminars if you are applying for a job even before you are accepted.  This is no difference than learning bitcoins.
It is true that bitcoin reduces unemployment, in fact I know someone don't have a regular job but because of bitcoin their lifestyle change, their perspective also change they become business minded and become great investor so it is true that bitcoin really helps a lot.
yes no doubt about that and specially in backward countries where the unemployment is really a big problem. i think bitcoin is really giving good chance to the people to make livelihood. although it is not a permanent way of income because of the lot of fluctuation price of bitcoin, but still people are getting good profit from it, and hope that they will continue earning bitcoin for a long time.
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May 31, 2017, 08:44:38 AM
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?

I disagree with your stance and support the previous poster (whose post I included in the quote). As to me, if we follow your logic there couldn't be self-employed people at all. Ultimately, the difference between self-employed and hired (or employed) lies in the equality (or lack thereof) of the parties involved. When you are employed, you follow the rules of your employer, i.e. you don't have a lot of leeway in respect to negotiating the terms of the contract (e.g. when you should work and how much). This is not the case with self-employment where you can put forward and negotiate your own conditions and provisions

Just the fact that it is still a job to be done is irrelevant and inconsequential to the issue
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May 31, 2017, 08:22:01 AM
I don't think that bitcoin will reduce unemployment because you need to have a proper knowledge on bitcoin,also one needs to spend a lot of time on it,it may be good enough for a part time job/temporary job ,but as a full time job ,bitcoin really needs to expand itself even more and also people need to know how to use their creative skills .

Same way when you want employment that is paid in fiat currency.  Remember you need to study for more than a decade to prepare yourself to have jobs.  You have to attend several pieces of training and seminars if you are applying for a job even before you are accepted.  This is no difference than learning bitcoins.
It is true that bitcoin reduces unemployment, in fact I know someone don't have a regular job but because of bitcoin their lifestyle change, their perspective also change they become business minded and become great investor so it is true that bitcoin really helps a lot.
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May 31, 2017, 07:44:41 AM
I don't think that bitcoin will reduce unemployment because you need to have a proper knowledge on bitcoin,also one needs to spend a lot of time on it,it may be good enough for a part time job/temporary job ,but as a full time job ,bitcoin really needs to expand itself even more and also people need to know how to use their creative skills .

Same way when you want employment that is paid in fiat currency.  Remember you need to study for more than a decade to prepare yourself to have jobs.  You have to attend several pieces of training and seminars if you are applying for a job even before you are accepted.  This is no difference than learning bitcoins.
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May 31, 2017, 07:30:09 AM
I think yes, it reduces unemployment since it created an opportunity to some that used frequently online. Some here are already working at the convenient of their homes and having client in any part of the globe especially on graphic designs, web designs, sales etc.
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May 31, 2017, 07:11:04 AM
I don't think that bitcoin will reduce unemployment because you need to have a proper knowledge on bitcoin,also one needs to spend a lot of time on it,it may be good enough for a part time job/temporary job ,but as a full time job ,bitcoin really needs to expand itself even more and also people need to know how to use their creative skills .
But it is not a big task to gain knowledge on different aspects of bitcoin systems. Maybe people are finding difficulties to spend their bitcoin earning but definitely not finding too hard to earn bitcoins. Because any one could learn the required knowledge so easily. Just keep on using bitcoin is more than enough to learn the required stuff.

We are all concerned about the employments provided by bitcoin systems, through (for example) mining/lending bitcoin is capable of providing full time employments. There are people making their free time by working on bitcoin related stuff in part time and finding big changes in their life.
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May 31, 2017, 06:47:58 AM
We who are already in the world of cryptocurrency think of finding bitcoin and getting bitcoin is as work and income is equivalent as work in the real world and I've been like this for three years, this is the reason I stay here because after the dismissal I have experienced in My work in the real world in 2014, then I am very difficult to get a job in the real world, and I am personally very uncomfortable with this situation, because other people and even my own families see me as an unemployed person, whereas I've proven it with the income I get from bitcoin but still unemployment in real life makes me uncomfortable If seen by others. my opinion should be We have a job in real life so we do not feel overwhelmed by the unemployment status. Bitcoin reduces unemployment, yeah I agree with this.

This you are telling about fiat currency job which you are thinking of if that is not availble then it means unemployed but i myself coming to this forum and bitcoin world , now i am earning more then my day job and i can take of my family expenses fully.
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May 31, 2017, 06:34:04 AM
We who are already in the world of cryptocurrency think of finding bitcoin and getting bitcoin is as work and income is equivalent as work in the real world and I've been like this for three years, this is the reason I stay here because after the dismissal I have experienced in My work in the real world in 2014, then I am very difficult to get a job in the real world, and I am personally very uncomfortable with this situation, because other people and even my own families see me as an unemployed person, whereas I've proven it with the income I get from bitcoin but still unemployment in real life makes me uncomfortable If seen by others. my opinion should be We have a job in real life so we do not feel overwhelmed by the unemployment status. Bitcoin reduces unemployment, yeah I agree with this.
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May 31, 2017, 06:30:32 AM
I don't think that bitcoin will reduce unemployment because you need to have a proper knowledge on bitcoin,also one needs to spend a lot of time on it,it may be good enough for a part time job/temporary job ,but as a full time job ,bitcoin really needs to expand itself even more and also people need to know how to use their creative skills .
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May 31, 2017, 06:21:05 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.

I agree. In most cases, bitcoin is obtained as a small temporary part-time job which can only bring a big profit in a few years if it is saved and wait for the price to rise.
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?
Of course you can consider yourself hired, but for the proceeds of collection of signatures you will not be able to cover your needs. This means that you should have a main place of work. Therefore, you cannot consider a company to collect signatures work space. Only a part time job or hobby.

This depends on the location of the applicant.  There had been several testimonies here that payment from this campaign can sustain their need in a week.  Enough for them to sustain their living since signature campaign pays in weekly basis.  You are correct about this as part time job but a job is a job and being hired means you are employed.  Sticking to the question whether Bitcoin help reduce unemployment , it clearly states that it does help to reduce unemployment .
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May 31, 2017, 06:07:43 AM
The mining of bitcoins itself will raise money that will eventually take care of the miner, with even more powerful miners, the miner generating enough money, the miner will even stop working and just mine and sell the bitcoins he or she has earned.
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May 31, 2017, 05:53:28 AM
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If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?

Signature campaign participants essentially provide an advertising support for chosen campaign CEO. It`s some kind of partly job or individual services.
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