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May 31, 2017, 05:48:38 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.

I agree. In most cases, bitcoin is obtained as a small temporary part-time job which can only bring a big profit in a few years if it is saved and wait for the price to rise.
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?
Of course you can consider yourself hired, but for the proceeds of collection of signatures you will not be able to cover your needs. This means that you should have a main place of work. Therefore, you cannot consider a company to collect signatures work space. Only a part time job or hobby.
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May 31, 2017, 05:32:01 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.

I agree. In most cases, bitcoin is obtained as a small temporary part-time job which can only bring a big profit in a few years if it is saved and wait for the price to rise.
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?
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May 31, 2017, 05:26:20 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.

I agree. In most cases, bitcoin is obtained as a small temporary part-time job which can only bring a big profit in a few years if it is saved and wait for the price to rise.
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.
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May 31, 2017, 05:14:14 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.

I agree. In most cases, bitcoin is obtained as a small temporary part-time job which can only bring a big profit in a few years if it is saved and wait for the price to rise.
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May 31, 2017, 05:06:51 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.
How is the earnings from the signature campaign given every week or month?, I think those who are called unemployed are those who have no income, as long they have a source of income even if their value is not fixed like earn bitcoin form trading, they are unfit to be called unemployed
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May 31, 2017, 04:58:02 AM
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?
I would definitely agree with you. Bitcoin does help a lot of poorer countries and I have heard a lot of stories about people using Bitcoin in places like Venezuela. Bitcoin definitely helps out a lot of people and I hope that more people find out about it and it keeps reducing unemployment.

People from poor countries are earning a living from bitcoins as the rate of unemployment is very high in those countries and with the help of bitcoin people have started to earn good amount of bitcoins which is taking care of their expenses and bitcoin gives license to each and every individual to earn it and there is no limitation in earning bitcoins.
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May 31, 2017, 04:55:49 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.
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May 31, 2017, 04:44:21 AM
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?
I would definitely agree with you. Bitcoin does help a lot of poorer countries and I have heard a lot of stories about people using Bitcoin in places like Venezuela. Bitcoin definitely helps out a lot of people and I hope that more people find out about it and it keeps reducing unemployment.
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May 31, 2017, 04:41:17 AM
I met an old friend in a restaurant January, 2017. Who happened to be my junior while in the university three years ago. I was surprised when he told me that he has never been invited for a job interview till date. I now asked him, how do you survive then without a paid job? He told me whether I have an idea about bitcoin? And I reply him, no sir. He then explain everything about bitcoin and crypto currency to me, and that he has three  account at legend level. From the three account, the amount of Satoshi he make from signature campaign is not less than FIFTEEN MILLION Satoshi in a month different from the profit he makes from trading crypto currency. And the black market value of Bitcoin in my country is about 50% increase of the international value. I believe bitcoin reduces unemployment.

It does reduces since some unemployed were able to make money and provide their living from btc, same wuth their earning more than a job salary they can earn.
That is very true because we are one of the proof for that or i can be a proof for that, my elder brother was earning at least $1,000 per month (Worth of US Dollar in our country) and i was making at least $2,000 and that was x2 of my brother's salary and when i try to tell it to him, he was not believing me until i show him my wallet that is receiving bitcoin and he was so shocked and immediately beg me to teach him.
I wouldn't call that "employment" though.  Online marketing still exists, it's just that the inefficiencies of the market result in signature campaigns paying higher.  Plus, the people who pay signature campaigns tend to earn Bitcoin instead of fiat currency, meaning that their payouts can stay consistent while the price rises.
I don't think joining a signature campaign can be the same as a job or a work, I prefer it as a hobby, you know, I just want to have a bitcoin thinking that it will be popular in the future with great pric and that means profit. I've been busy these few months but now I get a couple of months to rest. So I started being active here again, though  just visi time to time, I also need some time for my kids and wife, they are the reason I have this rest.

This hobby as you mentioned is for some becoming full time job. Some members here are working full time for some companies here and get payed in dollars or in bitcoin. But i used every spare minute that i have to read and try to invest in something that might be promising with good profit, this profit dont need to huge but something that would I say it good and make me happy.

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May 31, 2017, 04:12:21 AM
I met an old friend in a restaurant January, 2017. Who happened to be my junior while in the university three years ago. I was surprised when he told me that he has never been invited for a job interview till date. I now asked him, how do you survive then without a paid job? He told me whether I have an idea about bitcoin? And I reply him, no sir. He then explain everything about bitcoin and crypto currency to me, and that he has three  account at legend level. From the three account, the amount of Satoshi he make from signature campaign is not less than FIFTEEN MILLION Satoshi in a month different from the profit he makes from trading crypto currency. And the black market value of Bitcoin in my country is about 50% increase of the international value. I believe bitcoin reduces unemployment.

It does reduces since some unemployed were able to make money and provide their living from btc, same wuth their earning more than a job salary they can earn.
That is very true because we are one of the proof for that or i can be a proof for that, my elder brother was earning at least $1,000 per month (Worth of US Dollar in our country) and i was making at least $2,000 and that was x2 of my brother's salary and when i try to tell it to him, he was not believing me until i show him my wallet that is receiving bitcoin and he was so shocked and immediately beg me to teach him.
I wouldn't call that "employment" though.  Online marketing still exists, it's just that the inefficiencies of the market result in signature campaigns paying higher.  Plus, the people who pay signature campaigns tend to earn Bitcoin instead of fiat currency, meaning that their payouts can stay consistent while the price rises.
I don't think joining a signature campaign can be the same as a job or a work, I prefer it as a hobby, you know, I just want to have a bitcoin thinking that it will be popular in the future with great pric and that means profit. I've been busy these few months but now I get a couple of months to rest. So I started being active here again, though  just visi time to time, I also need some time for my kids and wife, they are the reason I have this rest.
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May 31, 2017, 04:06:16 AM
I met an old friend in a restaurant January, 2017. Who happened to be my junior while in the university three years ago. I was surprised when he told me that he has never been invited for a job interview till date. I now asked him, how do you survive then without a paid job? He told me whether I have an idea about bitcoin? And I reply him, no sir. He then explain everything about bitcoin and crypto currency to me, and that he has three  account at legend level. From the three account, the amount of Satoshi he make from signature campaign is not less than FIFTEEN MILLION Satoshi in a month different from the profit he makes from trading crypto currency. And the black market value of Bitcoin in my country is about 50% increase of the international value. I believe bitcoin reduces unemployment.

It does reduces since some unemployed were able to make money and provide their living from btc, same wuth their earning more than a job salary they can earn.
That is very true because we are one of the proof for that or i can be a proof for that, my elder brother was earning at least $1,000 per month (Worth of US Dollar in our country) and i was making at least $2,000 and that was x2 of my brother's salary and when i try to tell it to him, he was not believing me until i show him my wallet that is receiving bitcoin and he was so shocked and immediately beg me to teach him.
I wouldn't call that "employment" though.  Online marketing still exists, it's just that the inefficiencies of the market result in signature campaigns paying higher.  Plus, the people who pay signature campaigns tend to earn Bitcoin instead of fiat currency, meaning that their payouts can stay consistent while the price rises.
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May 30, 2017, 08:36:15 PM
For now bitcoin earning online through a lot of options you can do with the freedom of financials, it certainly reduced unemployment because the money that comes from bitcoin served as your salary. Even though physical work is not really visible to see with your earning, it really gives you a desire to earn better for the future of your family. In the reduction of unemployment I believed that bitcoin economy through the acquired knowledge of the people having their income from digital currency that support sustainable financial source which is bitcoin.

I think it doesn't reduce unemployment a lot... It's a good currency to receive your wage, but ver few people pay salaries to their employees with BTCs. On the internet there are better options of earnings which we can make profit with BTCs, but these options are scarce and worth more on long term if you hold your earnings in BTC for the future. To reduce unemployment we need more jobs, not exactly Bitcoins...
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May 30, 2017, 07:21:27 PM
I met an old friend in a restaurant January, 2017. Who happened to be my junior while in the university three years ago. I was surprised when he told me that he has never been invited for a job interview till date. I now asked him, how do you survive then without a paid job? He told me whether I have an idea about bitcoin? And I reply him, no sir. He then explain everything about bitcoin and crypto currency to me, and that he has three  account at legend level. From the three account, the amount of Satoshi he make from signature campaign is not less than FIFTEEN MILLION Satoshi in a month different from the profit he makes from trading crypto currency. And the black market value of Bitcoin in my country is about 50% increase of the international value. I believe bitcoin reduces unemployment.

It does reduces since some unemployed were able to make money and provide their living from btc, same wuth their earning more than a job salary they can earn.
That is very true because we are one of the proof for that or i can be a proof for that, my elder brother was earning at least $1,000 per month (Worth of US Dollar in our country) and i was making at least $2,000 and that was x2 of my brother's salary and when i try to tell it to him, he was not believing me until i show him my wallet that is receiving bitcoin and he was so shocked and immediately beg me to teach him.
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May 30, 2017, 06:43:42 PM
For now bitcoin earning online through a lot of options you can do with the freedom of financials, it certainly reduced unemployment because the money that comes from bitcoin served as your salary. Even though physical work is not really visible to see with your earning, it really gives you a desire to earn better for the future of your family. In the reduction of unemployment I believed that bitcoin economy through the acquired knowledge of the people having their income from digital currency that support sustainable financial source which is bitcoin.
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May 30, 2017, 06:01:57 PM
I met an old friend in a restaurant January, 2017. Who happened to be my junior while in the university three years ago. I was surprised when he told me that he has never been invited for a job interview till date. I now asked him, how do you survive then without a paid job? He told me whether I have an idea about bitcoin? And I reply him, no sir. He then explain everything about bitcoin and crypto currency to me, and that he has three  account at legend level. From the three account, the amount of Satoshi he make from signature campaign is not less than FIFTEEN MILLION Satoshi in a month different from the profit he makes from trading crypto currency. And the black market value of Bitcoin in my country is about 50% increase of the international value. I believe bitcoin reduces unemployment.

It does reduces since some unemployed were able to make money and provide their living from btc, same wuth their earning more than a job salary they can earn.
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May 30, 2017, 04:21:17 PM
I met an old friend in a restaurant January, 2017. Who happened to be my junior while in the university three years ago. I was surprised when he told me that he has never been invited for a job interview till date. I now asked him, how do you survive then without a paid job? He told me whether I have an idea about bitcoin? And I reply him, no sir. He then explain everything about bitcoin and crypto currency to me, and that he has three  account at legend level. From the three account, the amount of Satoshi he make from signature campaign is not less than FIFTEEN MILLION Satoshi in a month different from the profit he makes from trading crypto currency. And the black market value of Bitcoin in my country is about 50% increase of the international value. I believe bitcoin reduces unemployment.
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May 30, 2017, 02:41:22 PM
Of course..
With the help of bitcoin, many unemployed people have found an opportunity to get involved in a work.so they can earn money from the bitcoin. It's really a good platform of getting employed. So you can say that the bitcoin is a blessing for unemployed people.
I would agree on this point for bitcoin can help people earn around $150 per month in a signature campaign and for developing countries this is a very good salary. I have two jobs and one of them is signature campaign. That allows me to rent a flat and live without really feeling some hardness about money. So, yes, bitcoin can reduce unemployment.
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May 30, 2017, 02:38:02 PM
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?
I don't think so. Bitcoin doesn't help in making people get emplyed since it only gives an opportunity for people to get only extra earnings. However, there are many opportunities here in crypto currency which can be considered as job but it's still can not be conaidered as emplyment.


Then how can you define them?

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em·ploy·ment
əmˈploimənt/Submit
noun
the condition of having paid work.
"a fall in the numbers in full-time employment"
synonyms:   work, service, labor; More
a person's trade or profession.
plural noun: employments
synonyms:   work, service, labor; More
the action of giving work to someone.
"the employment of a full-time tutor"
synonyms:   hiring, hire, engagement, taking on; apprenticing
"the employment of children"

Does the things you stated does not fall under the definition of employment?  Aside from the signature campaign where majority of us here are familiar with, there are other jobs or paid in bitcoin work that were offer on the internet.  May it be a main job or a side job, the fact that we are working to get paid is an employment.  Then if you are unemployed and got job from a person who then paid you in bitcoin, does this not mean you are employed by that person?  Then if you are employed no matter how long or how short it is, you are now then one of the employed and not unemployed anymore, reducing the number of unemployed people by 1.  Then do that to the number of participant in different bounty campaigns here.  And tell me bitcoin does not help to reduce unemployement.
None of these things are replacing fiat jobs.  They're just a free market operating to distribute money (denominated in Bitcoin in this case) to people who decide to do work.  That's not creating work, that's just a method of paid advertisement which would have existed in fiat anyway.
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May 30, 2017, 02:20:15 PM
Maybe in some other countries but not in mine. For that I think Bitcoin should be officiali recogonized by governement. But Bitcoin can in a way encourage selfemployment becuause for some people is the the additional source of income that gradualy became the main one, although in some grey or even black area. On the other hand it is hard to depend only on Bitcoin because of the volatility of price so you could find yourself without sufficient income for living.
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May 30, 2017, 02:13:09 PM
That's true because of bitcoins, some of unemployment staffs were reduce. We were thankful to bitcoins because they help many people to have an online job. Also it help the student to have a part time job using bitcoin and they start to stand up with own feet.

All of the above PLUS don't forget workers on big mining farms, constructors who build them, engineers etc. Bitcoin mining is a big industry where thousands of different workers involved.

I disagree with those saying in this thread that Bitcoin does nothing to reduce unemployment.
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