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July 15, 2011, 02:28:43 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.

My business.

And yes, I agree wholly. Bitcoin speculators speculating.

Lol, yes you established that in the post I was referring to.  How do we know you're not just some long-winded foul-mouthed kid trolling the forums?

HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY WANTS TO KNOW WHO I AM.  CAN WE REMIND HIM ABOUT HOW GREAT ANONYMITY IS! THIS IS THE BITCOIN FORUM, AFTER ALL!
You now agree on one of the great selling points of bitcoin Smiley

Yeah, accept I don't really care all that much to either prove my identity or keep it hidden, since I've already revealed what I do for a living in other threads.

I simply don't give a shit about your curiosity.

Or about spelling, clearly :-)

Are you an English major?

If so, where's my fucking triple latte with whipped cream and caramel?

I think I'd like to speak to you're manager.
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July 15, 2011, 02:26:42 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.

My business.

And yes, I agree wholly. Bitcoin speculators speculating.

Lol, yes you established that in the post I was referring to.  How do we know you're not just some long-winded foul-mouthed kid trolling the forums?

HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY WANTS TO KNOW WHO I AM.  CAN WE REMIND HIM ABOUT HOW GREAT ANONYMITY IS! THIS IS THE BITCOIN FORUM, AFTER ALL!
You now agree on one of the great selling points of bitcoin Smiley

Yeah, accept I don't really care all that much to either prove my identity or keep it hidden, since I've already revealed what I do for a living in other threads.

I simply don't give a shit about your curiosity.

Or about spelling, clearly :-)
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July 15, 2011, 02:25:23 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.

My business.

And yes, I agree wholly. Bitcoin speculators speculating.

Lol, yes you established that in the post I was referring to.  How do we know you're not just some long-winded foul-mouthed kid trolling the forums?

HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY WANTS TO KNOW WHO I AM.  CAN WE REMIND HIM ABOUT HOW GREAT ANONYMITY IS! THIS IS THE BITCOIN FORUM, AFTER ALL!
You now agree on one of the great selling points of bitcoin Smiley

Yeah, accept I don't really care all that much to either prove my identity or keep it hidden, since I've already revealed what I do for a living in other threads.

I simply don't give a shit about your curiosity.
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July 15, 2011, 02:24:17 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.

My business.

And yes, I agree wholly. Bitcoin speculators speculating.

Lol, yes you established that in the post I was referring to.  How do we know you're not just some long-winded foul-mouthed kid trolling the forums?

HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY WANTS TO KNOW WHO I AM.  CAN WE REMIND HIM ABOUT HOW GREAT ANONYMITY IS! THIS IS THE BITCOIN FORUM, AFTER ALL!
You now agree on one of the great selling points of bitcoin Smiley
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July 15, 2011, 02:23:38 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.

My business.

And yes, I agree wholly. Bitcoin speculators speculating.

Lol, yes you established that in the post I was referring to.  How do we know you're not just some long-winded foul-mouthed kid trolling the forums?

HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY WANTS TO KNOW WHO I AM.  CAN WE REMIND HIM ABOUT HOW GREAT ANONYMITY IS! THIS IS THE BITCOIN FORUM, AFTER ALL!
member
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July 15, 2011, 02:22:45 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.

My business.

And yes, I agree wholly. Bitcoin speculators speculating.

Lol, yes you established that in the post I was referring to.  How do we know you're not just some long-winded foul-mouthed kid trolling the forums?
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July 15, 2011, 02:20:27 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.

My business.

And yes, I agree wholly. Bitcoin speculators speculating.
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July 15, 2011, 02:18:48 PM

Have you tried Dwolla?

Dwolla?  Really?  Dwolla?  An unknown internet site that takes forever and a century to clear funds, isn't a regulated or recognized financial institution?  People will accept a personal check LONG before they buy off a "now, I'm going to enter a few numbers into this web site and you'll see your money in your bank account in about 3 days.  Oh, and I'll need your account's electronic transfer code, and I'll be driving off with your car as soon as you sign that title..."

I too have bought several cars with cash, and I know what I'm talking about.  You clearly do not.  (p.s, other guy: instead of cash, try cashier's check.  most people are willing to accept that if you negotiate it beforehand).


That's a good tip.  Although, one thing I love about purchasing with cash in hand is the bargaining power.

Same here. And what does that say for bitcoins?

"Hey I'll trade you some bitcoins for that car.  You might make a MILLION DOLLARS OFF OF IT.  Have we got a deal?"

Now that's leverage.

Heh, the same leverage I hear from Multi-level Marketers telling me that having sausage parties at my house will make me rich, or that using bitcoin for daily exchanges will make the world a more rainbowy place for all.
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July 15, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
What business is this that you speak of?

Also, the seller may just want the bitcoins for speculation.
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July 15, 2011, 02:14:23 PM

Have you tried Dwolla?

Dwolla?  Really?  Dwolla?  An unknown internet site that takes forever and a century to clear funds, isn't a regulated or recognized financial institution?  People will accept a personal check LONG before they buy off a "now, I'm going to enter a few numbers into this web site and you'll see your money in your bank account in about 3 days.  Oh, and I'll need your account's electronic transfer code, and I'll be driving off with your car as soon as you sign that title..."

I too have bought several cars with cash, and I know what I'm talking about.  You clearly do not.  (p.s, other guy: instead of cash, try cashier's check.  most people are willing to accept that if you negotiate it beforehand).


Actually I use Dwolla as my preferred method of payment for my business.  I have had 4 clients since I started using Dwolla two months ago start paying me through Dwolla.

It's not unknown Internet site, and is actually partnered with a number of banks.  It doesn't take 3 days for the transaction to show up in your account, that happens immediately. It also doesn't take 3 days to pull it into your bank account.  That happens in one banking day, since it's  merely a "checking" front end tied to your banking account.

And furthermore you dolt, people would accept a Dwolla payment LONG before they accept some fucking retarded bitcoins that they have to A. Make a Dwolla account to get USD out of anyway becuase they have to go to B. fucking Mt. Gox or some other stupid exchange, and THEN, trade their bitcoins for USD, pull it BACK into their Dwolla account, and THEN AGAIN wait for it to go into their bank account.

So let's see, in your idiotic scenario where cash is such a motherfucking hassle and for whatever reason you were too stupid to originally consider a personal check since that's apparently a better option for this hypothetical seller, then what would the seller rather do?  Create a Dwolla account, get verified, and basically have the money deposited directly into his back account, or go through a bunch of goddamn asinine intermediary steps with bitcoin markets to get his USD out of bitcoin?

You my friend, have just been made a fool of.
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July 15, 2011, 02:10:21 PM

Have you tried Dwolla?

Dwolla?  Really?  Dwolla?  An unknown internet site that takes forever and a century to clear funds, isn't a regulated or recognized financial institution?  People will accept a personal check LONG before they buy off a "now, I'm going to enter a few numbers into this web site and you'll see your money in your bank account in about 3 days.  Oh, and I'll need your account's electronic transfer code, and I'll be driving off with your car as soon as you sign that title..."

I too have bought several cars with cash, and I know what I'm talking about.  You clearly do not.  (p.s, other guy: instead of cash, try cashier's check.  most people are willing to accept that if you negotiate it beforehand).


That's a good tip.  Although, one thing I love about purchasing with cash in hand is the bargaining power.
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July 15, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
Also brand new seller accounts are auctioned off now, so you have to pay a lot to get one.
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July 15, 2011, 02:08:56 PM

Have you ever heard of "no-one gives a fuck?"

Again, no-one cares that a guy traded a brown paper bag containing a copious bowl movement that's held closed by scotch tape with a drawing made by his 6 year old first born son on the front for a fancy yacht.

I mean, really? Every odd sale or trade on craigslist is newsworthy? Enough to drive market speculation on the bags of shit exchange?

I love it here, I really do.

No, no one cares because people buy things on craigslist in cash (USD).  People have been buying cars in cash since they were invented.  To my knowledge, no one has ever bought a car with bitcoins.

I don't think Synaptic has ever spent more than $200 before, from his mom's credit card.
Synaptic, I'll give you an example.  I buy all my cars in cash, period.  The latest car I bought cost $6000.  I withdrew $6000 from my bank in cash and carried that with me to make the purchase.  It's very nerve racking carrying that much cash in your pocket.  With a bitcoin transaction, you don't carry any cash in your pocket and yet it is as good as cash.

Have you tried Dwolla?
Yes, I agree with your point that you can buy cars using USD.  We've already established that.  The original point was that I believe the purchase of a car using BTC would create interest.  
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July 15, 2011, 02:07:08 PM

Everyone lives in very separate locations, so each 'sting' would cost thousands of dollars per college kid to arrest in coordinated efforts, and some would fail because the address recipient wasn't the drug buyer.

edit:

Nobody has explained yet how the police could get good feedback, which is necessary to make lots of sales. Are they going to hack the site? lol

This is trivial.  Bust a drug dealer, offer him or her prosecution immunity in return for setting up sting op.  Done deal.


So meanwhile the drug dealer is still selling drugs to maintain good feedback??

Bro, listen.  I already explained this.  Take 12 agents.  Have 1 agents pretend to sell many times to the other 11 and have the 11 leave glowing feedback.  It does not take much to get reputation on SR.  Have you visited it?     http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/ via Tor.
Don't they have a buyer reputation as well (which should make this "trick" exponentially more complicated)?
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July 15, 2011, 02:06:16 PM
ITT:

Bitcoiners hijack a thread to discuss the only appreciable bitcoin economy: Silk Road.

Also, imperi makes a dipshit of himself even more.
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July 15, 2011, 02:05:57 PM

Have you tried Dwolla?

Dwolla?  Really?  Dwolla?  An unknown internet site that takes forever and a century to clear funds, isn't a regulated or recognized financial institution?  People will accept a personal check LONG before they buy off a "now, I'm going to enter a few numbers into this web site and you'll see your money in your bank account in about 3 days.  Oh, and I'll need your account's electronic transfer code, and I'll be driving off with your car as soon as you sign that title..."

I too have bought several cars with cash, and I know what I'm talking about.  You clearly do not.  (p.s, other guy: instead of cash, try cashier's check.  most people are willing to accept that if you negotiate it beforehand).
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July 15, 2011, 02:05:18 PM

Everyone lives in very separate locations, so each 'sting' would cost thousands of dollars per college kid to arrest in coordinated efforts, and some would fail because the address recipient wasn't the drug buyer.

edit:

Nobody has explained yet how the police could get good feedback, which is necessary to make lots of sales. Are they going to hack the site? lol

This is trivial.  Bust a drug dealer, offer him or her prosecution immunity in return for setting up sting op.  Done deal.


So meanwhile the drug dealer is still selling drugs to maintain good feedback??

Bro, listen.  I already explained this.  Take 12 agents.  Have 1 agents pretend to sell many times to the other 11 and have the 11 leave glowing feedback.  It does not take much to get reputation on SR.  Have you visited it?     http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/ via Tor.

And then two other people try to buy drugs and it drops below 100%. Sting fails.

No, that's not how SR works.  If you try to buy something from a dealer, he doesn't have to oblige and future buyers don't require that certain other buyers have already left positive feedback.  It just takes some good reputation to lure in a buyer, and it doesn't take much.

If nobody buys from the dealer, then they can't get in trouble.

But they will.  They will see that he is offering good prices and has reputation.  They don't know ahead of time whether it is a sting.

Then they can leave negative feedback.
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July 15, 2011, 02:04:56 PM

Everyone lives in very separate locations, so each 'sting' would cost thousands of dollars per college kid to arrest in coordinated efforts, and some would fail because the address recipient wasn't the drug buyer.

edit:

Nobody has explained yet how the police could get good feedback, which is necessary to make lots of sales. Are they going to hack the site? lol

This is trivial.  Bust a drug dealer, offer him or her prosecution immunity in return for setting up sting op.  Done deal.


So meanwhile the drug dealer is still selling drugs to maintain good feedback??

Bro, listen.  I already explained this.  Take 12 agents.  Have 1 agents pretend to sell many times to the other 11 and have the 11 leave glowing feedback.  It does not take much to get reputation on SR.  Have you visited it?     http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/ via Tor.

And then two other people try to buy drugs and it drops below 100%. Sting fails.

No, that's not how SR works.  If you try to buy something from a dealer, he doesn't have to oblige and future buyers don't require that certain other buyers have already left positive feedback.  It just takes some good reputation to lure in a buyer, and it doesn't take much.

If nobody buys from the dealer, then they can't get in trouble.

But they will.  They will see that he is offering good prices and has reputation.  They don't know ahead of time whether it is a sting.
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July 15, 2011, 02:04:40 PM

Everyone lives in very separate locations, so each 'sting' would cost thousands of dollars per college kid to arrest in coordinated efforts, and some would fail because the address recipient wasn't the drug buyer.

edit:

Nobody has explained yet how the police could get good feedback, which is necessary to make lots of sales. Are they going to hack the site? lol

This is trivial.  Bust a drug dealer, offer him or her prosecution immunity in return for setting up sting op.  Done deal.


So meanwhile the drug dealer is still selling drugs to maintain good feedback??

Bro, listen.  I already explained this.  Take 12 agents.  Have 1 agents pretend to sell many times to the other 11 and have the 11 leave glowing feedback.  It does not take much to get reputation on SR.  Have you visited it?     http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/ via Tor.

And then two other people try to buy drugs and it drops below 100%. Sting fails.

No, that's not how SR works.  If you try to buy something from a dealer, he doesn't have to oblige and future buyers don't require that certain other buyers have already left positive feedback.  It just takes some good reputation to lure in a buyer, and it doesn't take much.

If nobody buys from the dealer, then they can't get in trouble.

Lol, fuck.

You my friend, are a dumbass.
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July 15, 2011, 02:04:02 PM

Everyone lives in very separate locations, so each 'sting' would cost thousands of dollars per college kid to arrest in coordinated efforts, and some would fail because the address recipient wasn't the drug buyer.

edit:

Nobody has explained yet how the police could get good feedback, which is necessary to make lots of sales. Are they going to hack the site? lol

This is trivial.  Bust a drug dealer, offer him or her prosecution immunity in return for setting up sting op.  Done deal.


So meanwhile the drug dealer is still selling drugs to maintain good feedback??

Bro, listen.  I already explained this.  Take 12 agents.  Have 1 agents pretend to sell many times to the other 11 and have the 11 leave glowing feedback.  It does not take much to get reputation on SR.  Have you visited it?     http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/ via Tor.

And then two other people try to buy drugs and it drops below 100%. Sting fails.

No, that's not how SR works.  If you try to buy something from a dealer, he doesn't have to oblige and future buyers don't require that certain other buyers have already left positive feedback.  It just takes some good reputation to lure in a buyer, and it doesn't take much.

If nobody buys from the dealer, then they can't get in trouble. If they do buy, they can leave negative feedback.
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