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Quote from: noictib on October 14, 2017, 01:51:36 AM

Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

Here we have no doubt that bitcoin cash has the quality and technology variety like the bitcoin Because it is made by the bitcoin team , so we have full trust with the bitcoin .
But here in my opinion bitcoin cash will go more up in progress Because bitcoin cash has the new reason of attraction .
Bitcoin cash has more miners support Because miners are making more profit in the bitcoin cash mining than what they are getting in the bitcoin and also here the transaction speed of the bitcoin cash is more than what we have with the bitcoin and also we can see that the confirmation speed is also better in case of bitcoin cash than what we can see in the bitcoin network .
So here we have many factors with the bitcoin cash that is saying that it will grow more than bitcoin in the future but still here bitcoin will remain at no. One because it is only the king that entered in the online field at first .

When I visit the sections related to altcoins, people there have totally different story and I have seen most of bitcoin cash investors getting doubtful about this currency. People are even predicting its death. It is not the technology that is necessary for the survival of any crypto coin but investors give power to any coin. BCH is not better than BTC in any aspect. I am just wondering what will be the effect of November forks on BCH.

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They certainly manufactured this coin out of thin air

But it is the same with essentially any coin out there (wtf, even fiat is created basically out of thin air nowadays). Apart from that, I can't possibly agree that this coin has actually created billions of dollars worth of value. If people tried to cash out all their Bitcoin Cash tokens that would likely crash the price below a few million dollar market cap. Therefore, it is not a real value, it is no more than some fancy numbers with no connection to reality, pretty much like Bitcoin's market cap (or even less than that)

Market cap is funny like that in that it purports to represent a theoretical value that wouldn't hold up in certain situations, like total liquidation. But it's the best metric available, and a standard for all asset valuations. It's "paper" value just like a stock is a "paper gain" or "paper loss" until it's sold and realized. I understand your point in saying it's not a "real" value, but it's no less applicable than any other asset valuation, and even if you take the position that all asset valuations suffer the same flaws, then at least that's consistent and a point of comparison. The fact that you wouldn't be able to liquidate the market cap value out of BCash doesn't affect market cap a comparison tool to compare it to how much its worth relative to Bitcoin

I still wouldn't compare stocks with crypto

I've seen some post of yours today (regarding the stance of Jamie Dimon from JPMorgan Chase on Bitcoin) where you basically agree with this dude that Bitcoin is purely a speculative asset that will likely blow up eventually. Now compare that with the stock of some real company like IBM or Intel. Obviously, the liquidation value of Bitcoin is zero for pretty obvious reasons, but is it the same with the stock of these companies? If all shareholders decide to sell their stock one day, the companies will just buy up all of their own shares, but who is to buy the last bitcoin? So it is certainly not the six of one and half a dozen of the other

No, the difference being that stock is an ownership stake and in the liquidation of a company, has inherent value that shares are worth during liquidation. If the book value of the company isnabove zero, you would generally not expect the stock to liquidate below the book value. Market cap is there most relevant metric to assess the size of a company, or in this case, a crypto

I don't quite understand what you are arguing with

Did you actually read my post or just hurried up to write something in reply (expecting me to have challenged your point)? A book value of a company (as far as I understand it) is just the liquidation price of all its assets (likely minus liabilities), so in the majority of cases it should remain above zero as you happen to point out yourself. But this is what I'm telling myself, namely, that Bitcoin is not stock (since it can drop to zero), and they are certainly NOT the six of one and half a dozen of the other. It looks you kinda replied to someone else's post, so you may want to stop and read my post after all

Perhaps if you're unable to follow the thread, you should stop quoting and responding to it. It's quite clear if you read it I'm responding to the questions you wrote at the end of your post. "Obviously the liquidation value of Bitcoin is zero for pretty obvious reasons, but is it the same with the stocks of these companies?" "No, the difference being..." and so on. Or perhaps you're mistaking answering the questions you posed as an argument? That's your fault, I can't help you with that.

I specifically included the full quotation in my post

You may want to read it all the way down to see who is actually unable to follow the thread here and who should "stop quoting and responding to it". As you can see, I started with talking precisely about Bitcoin Cash as per thread topic. It is you who deviated from that point by raising the discussion about stocks and what not, and now you are trying to make me feel guilty for your fault, wtf? No, this won't work out. And I don't really understand what you mean by claiming that I'm "mistaking answering the questions I posed as an argument". Anyway, this is irrelevant, and since you "can't help me with that", I expect you to wind up finally. Hope this helps

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Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

Of course another altcoin which just comes along with the name bitcoin. I don't think bitcoin cash will ever cross 1500$ mark because till now the price has reached till ~700$ and the reason why it won't increase much is because of lack of support that bitcoin cash has at the moment, and bitcoin gold is now getting people's attention of late because of the free money scheme.

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Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

Slow to this discussion I guess they are interesting in their own ways what happens in the future depends on how many forks Bitcoin has while I see no real difference between Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash I do see differences in the upcoming forks that will make the value of the non-main BTC chain of the day harder to measure in terms of metrics related to adoption and usage.

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So bitcoin cash is just another crypto currency? Or is there something special about it like its price is derived from the value of bitcoin or something? Sorry a newbie here im altcoins, i heard that different coins serve different purposes.

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Quote from: deisik on September 22, 2017, 02:35:57 AM

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Quote from: deisik on September 06, 2017, 02:22:20 AM

They certainly manufactured this coin out of thin air

But it is the same with essentially any coin out there (wtf, even fiat is created basically out of thin air nowadays). Apart from that, I can't possibly agree that this coin has actually created billions of dollars worth of value. If people tried to cash out all their Bitcoin Cash tokens that would likely crash the price below a few million dollar market cap. Therefore, it is not a real value, it is no more than some fancy numbers with no connection to reality, pretty much like Bitcoin's market cap (or even less than that)

Market cap is funny like that in that it purports to represent a theoretical value that wouldn't hold up in certain situations, like total liquidation. But it's the best metric available, and a standard for all asset valuations. It's "paper" value just like a stock is a "paper gain" or "paper loss" until it's sold and realized. I understand your point in saying it's not a "real" value, but it's no less applicable than any other asset valuation, and even if you take the position that all asset valuations suffer the same flaws, then at least that's consistent and a point of comparison. The fact that you wouldn't be able to liquidate the market cap value out of BCash doesn't affect market cap a comparison tool to compare it to how much its worth relative to Bitcoin

I still wouldn't compare stocks with crypto

I've seen some post of yours today (regarding the stance of Jamie Dimon from JPMorgan Chase on Bitcoin) where you basically agree with this dude that Bitcoin is purely a speculative asset that will likely blow up eventually. Now compare that with the stock of some real company like IBM or Intel. Obviously, the liquidation value of Bitcoin is zero for pretty obvious reasons, but is it the same with the stock of these companies? If all shareholders decide to sell their stock one day, the companies will just buy up all of their own shares, but who is to buy the last bitcoin? So it is certainly not the six of one and half a dozen of the other

No, the difference being that stock is an ownership stake and in the liquidation of a company, has inherent value that shares are worth during liquidation. If the book value of the company isnabove zero, you would generally not expect the stock to liquidate below the book value. Market cap is there most relevant metric to assess the size of a company, or in this case, a crypto

I don't quite understand what you are arguing with

Did you actually read my post or just hurried up to write something in reply (expecting me to have challenged your point)? A book value of a company (as far as I understand it) is just the liquidation price of all its assets (likely minus liabilities), so in the majority of cases it should remain above zero as you happen to point out yourself. But this is what I'm telling myself, namely, that Bitcoin is not stock (since it can drop to zero), and they are certainly NOT the six of one and half a dozen of the other. It looks you kinda replied to someone else's post, so you may want to stop and read my post after all

Perhaps if you're unable to follow the thread, you should stop quoting and responding to it. It's quite clear if you read it I'm responding to the questions you wrote at the end of your post. "Obviously the liquidation value of Bitcoin is zero for pretty obvious reasons, but is it the same with the stocks of these companies?" "No, the difference being..." and so on. Or perhaps you're mistaking answering the questions you posed as an argument? That's your fault, I can't help you with that.

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Bitcoin is bitcoin to me while BCC is shitcoin. I think bitcoincash will be just a memory because I feel that in the longer run that it will just be delisted just like other shitcoins. And now bitcoingold is on the way, people have a new attraction because there's an ongoing hype everywhere.

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There was a group that wanted to leave bitcoin cash with bitcoin. I could not understand this group. As a result, the bitcoin is divided into two. It did not create a negative situation for bitcoin. I think it's wrong now to compare two different coins.

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Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

Here we have no doubt that bitcoin cash has the quality and technology variety like the bitcoin Because it is made by the bitcoin team , so we have full trust with the bitcoin .
But here in my opinion bitcoin cash will go more up in progress Because bitcoin cash has the new reason of attraction .
Bitcoin cash has more miners support Because miners are making more profit in the bitcoin cash mining than what they are getting in the bitcoin and also here the transaction speed of the bitcoin cash is more than what we have with the bitcoin and also we can see that the confirmation speed is also better in case of bitcoin cash than what we can see in the bitcoin network .
So here we have many factors with the bitcoin cash that is saying that it will grow more than bitcoin in the future but still here bitcoin will remain at no. One because it is only the king that entered in the online field at first .

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I think bitcoin and bitcoin cash have a different concept. well, of course in terms of use and bitcoin function is still much better than the bitcoin cash. but some people say that bitcoin cash is very good in use as a trading tool compared to bitcoin.

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I feel bitcoin main will often be popular. Whilst bitcoin income should be ready to overcome the problems that are now currently being skilled. Even though the two are great

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As to known BitcoinCash is just a fraction of Bitcoin (as a branch of Bitcoin itself), I don't think at all that the value of BitcoinCash will be same as the value of Bitcoin. I think Bitcoin Cash is just a few parts of Atlcoins only and it seems a small possibility that the value of BitcoinCash can be same as Bitcoin or even more, that's impossible I guess.

Bitcoin cash is just like an altcoin and it is created for just trading purposes only and not to replace bitcoin because if bitcoin cash is a really replacement for bitcoin then we can see that its price will be closer to what it is right now. Bitcoin cash will never be a threat for bitcoin because bitcoin cash is too far to what bitcoin have right now.

These two are different things and relation these bitcoin and bitcoin cash is non-serious thing the purpose of bitcoin cash is different as compare to the bitcoin, bitcoin basically can be use as payment as well as investment and bitcoin cash is commonly used in trading it is not used in making investments and this doesn’t allow user to get high profit as compare to bitcoin.

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In this scenario you can not evaluate in between bitcoin with bitcoin cash because traders definitely decide on to make investments their funds on the cash that will give them a income. I feel the help from the exchanger can also have an influence on the growth of bitcoin cash if the exchangers do not give their assistance to bitcoin money then bitcoin funds will die.

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Quote from: Iantot08 on October 10, 2017, 05:24:54 AM

Bitcoin is most popular cryptocurrency that I know in computer network. Many people was joined in bitcoin to earn income or profit. As to my cousin, it very helpful to all who want to use it especially to facing a financial problem.
Bitcoin cash is a different story. Bitcoin Cash was started by Bitcoin miners and developers equally concerned with the future of the cryptocurrency, and its ability to scale effectively. I'm not familiar in this term

The good thing here is you know something about this alternative coin and you can say something about it ahile there are some people who don't really know this Bitcoin Cash and still trash talkimg the digital currency. Bitcoin may have a good reason to be forked still it is not something that may become more popular than the original Bitcoin.

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I'm utilized to employing bitcoin, since I presently have self-confidence in this currency.Technically, BCC is bitcoin, only improved. But I do not have confidence in this coin. I consider she will both die or the chain will re-unite

Yes, bitcoin will still be the best cryptocurrency, but I don't agree with you saying that BCC is an improved version of BTC. In fact, BTC is still better than BCC in all aspects. I think, your point is that BCC is an OFFSPRING of BTC; It is not fair to say that BCC is an IMPROVED version of BTC. BCC was only created from BTC, and they are different.

If you will ask me, they just created bitcoin cash or bcc to have another coin like etc in eth that will have a price and they can sell it and get profit without having any investment. That is the advantage of holding bitcoin and having hard forks but all of the things have its consequence and one of the possible consequence for bitcoin is to have a bad image in newcomers mind because they will think that bitcoin is just getting played by the devs.

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Bitcoin is most popular cryptocurrency that I know in computer network. Many people was joined in bitcoin to earn income or profit. As to my cousin, it very helpful to all who want to use it especially to facing a financial problem.
Bitcoin cash is a different story. Bitcoin Cash was started by Bitcoin miners and developers equally concerned with the future of the cryptocurrency, and its ability to scale effectively. I'm not familiar in this term

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Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

No I don't think that it would have the same value as Bitcoin ,
And right now I see it as another alt-coin and I think it would never get close to the value of bitcoin.

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Quote from: freundes on July 31, 2017, 11:42:25 PM

What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

Of course i will choose bitcoin over bitcoin cash, as we can see in the market value right now bitcoin is become more stable and strong with a huge value gap of near $5,000 in which it is impossible to fall down unlike other crypto currencies like bitcoin cash even existing for now still there is a big possibility that it going to dump and crash especially i did not see any ICO sponsoring it as form of campaign payments. To ensure your investments will not going to risk? choose bitcoin.

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Quote from: CheeseZineSlash on October 09, 2017, 03:06:03 AM

I'm utilized to employing bitcoin, since I presently have self-confidence in this currency.Technically, BCC is bitcoin, only improved. But I do not have confidence in this coin. I consider she will both die or the chain will re-unite

Yes, bitcoin will still be the best cryptocurrency, but I don't agree with you saying that BCC is an improved version of BTC. In fact, BTC is still better than BCC in all aspects. I think, your point is that BCC is an OFFSPRING of BTC; It is not fair to say that BCC is an IMPROVED version of BTC. BCC was only created from BTC, and they are different.

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