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zyk
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Activity: 224
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September 14, 2012, 03:21:34 AM
Payb.tc, I for one, wouldn't mind throwing a few BTC your way to put something together where only the people who elect to give Pirate their information gets passed on.  It would have to be contingent on a few things though.  If Pirate paid only those accounts, only those accounts would be paid out and the people that chose to not give information would have to wait until further action is taken and their BTC are refunded.  There would also need other people to throw BTC in.

The other thing we could do is put together a list and have you sign off on it as accurate and we can forward it on to Pirate.  I know this was done before but I'm not sure it was ever verified by you before it was forwarded.

Also, given the fact that BitcoinMax's userbase is so large, I would imagine if everyone threw in a little there would surely be enough to get a lawyer involved and pay for payb.tc's time.

I can state with 100% acuracy that it was not signed off by payb.tc.

I highly doubt it would help but if paybtc wants access to the list I will give it to him, as stated in my orig thread.

payb.tc:
how much btc would you need to check this list, sign it and pass it to pirate?

BrightAnarchist is collecting this information to give to lawyers and maybe LEA. If you would like please pass it on top him. We are trying to collect coin back.

Oh my ....We have been there 4 weeks ago already.....Pirate ain´t even found.......keep your data at our chairman !


Cheers Zyk
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
September 14, 2012, 01:54:49 AM
Payb.tc, I for one, wouldn't mind throwing a few BTC your way to put something together where only the people who elect to give Pirate their information gets passed on.  It would have to be contingent on a few things though.  If Pirate paid only those accounts, only those accounts would be paid out and the people that chose to not give information would have to wait until further action is taken and their BTC are refunded.  There would also need other people to throw BTC in.

The other thing we could do is put together a list and have you sign off on it as accurate and we can forward it on to Pirate.  I know this was done before but I'm not sure it was ever verified by you before it was forwarded.

Also, given the fact that BitcoinMax's userbase is so large, I would imagine if everyone threw in a little there would surely be enough to get a lawyer involved and pay for payb.tc's time.

I can state with 100% acuracy that it was not signed off by payb.tc.

I highly doubt it would help but if paybtc wants access to the list I will give it to him, as stated in my orig thread.

payb.tc:
how much btc would you need to check this list, sign it and pass it to pirate?
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
I am the one who knocks
September 13, 2012, 07:53:19 PM
Payb.tc, I for one, wouldn't mind throwing a few BTC your way to put something together where only the people who elect to give Pirate their information gets passed on.  It would have to be contingent on a few things though.  If Pirate paid only those accounts, only those accounts would be paid out and the people that chose to not give information would have to wait until further action is taken and their BTC are refunded.  There would also need other people to throw BTC in.

The other thing we could do is put together a list and have you sign off on it as accurate and we can forward it on to Pirate.  I know this was done before but I'm not sure it was ever verified by you before it was forwarded.

Also, given the fact that BitcoinMax's userbase is so large, I would imagine if everyone threw in a little there would surely be enough to get a lawyer involved and pay for payb.tc's time.

I can state with 100% acuracy that it was not signed off by payb.tc.

I highly doubt it would help but if paybtc wants access to the list I will give it to him, as stated in my orig thread.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
September 13, 2012, 06:34:58 PM
So pirate agreed to pay accounts which are reported to him??? How do i sign up? I am a student and could really put those 165btc to a good use
No, pirate requested full account details for unspecified "legal reasons" which may or may not be "legal reasons" related to money laundering  Wink
He has yet to pay back anyone and almost certainly never will.
member
Activity: 64
Merit: 10
September 13, 2012, 06:29:56 PM
So pirate agreed to pay accounts which are reported to him??? How do i sign up? I am a student and could really put those 165btc to a good use
zyk
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Activity: 224
Merit: 101
September 13, 2012, 11:51:24 AM
sure, if there's anything i can do to help that doesn't require thousands of dollars in lawyers fees or plane tickets, please let me know.

Nobody asked you to pay for anything (yet) Wink. Just please find the time to send a PM to Goat or anyone else who is organizing some action about Pirate just to see if you can help with any information or anything. Then please let us know about the progress.
Thanks

To open shop and legalize the ToS of bitcoinmax will safe you a few thousand dollars, my dear, you don´t want to see that and again (yet).?

Cheers Zyk

P.S. If prefer thinking only hand to mouth....how much would you charge for the Quellcode of bitcoinmaxes cute interface ?

Thanks Zyk


legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
September 13, 2012, 11:35:36 AM
sure, if there's anything i can do to help that doesn't require thousands of dollars in lawyers fees or plane tickets, please let me know.

Nobody asked you to pay for anything (yet). Just please find the time to send a PM to Goat or anyone else who is organizing some action about Pirate just to see if you can help with any information or anything. Then please let us know about the progress.
Thanks
full member
Activity: 198
Merit: 100
September 13, 2012, 11:17:23 AM
Payb.tc, I for one, wouldn't mind throwing a few BTC your way to put something together where only the people who elect to give Pirate their information gets passed on.  It would have to be contingent on a few things though.  If Pirate paid only those accounts, only those accounts would be paid out and the people that chose to not give information would have to wait until further action is taken and their BTC are refunded.  There would also need other people to throw BTC in.

The other thing we could do is put together a list and have you sign off on it as accurate and we can forward it on to Pirate.  I know this was done before but I'm not sure it was ever verified by you before it was forwarded.

Also, given the fact that BitcoinMax's userbase is so large, I would imagine if everyone threw in a little there would surely be enough to get a lawyer involved and pay for payb.tc's time.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
September 13, 2012, 11:02:03 AM
payb.tc are you checking these topics?
are you willing to work together with the people that are going after him to recover our funds ?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trendon-shavers-family-contact-made-109126 (Trendon Shavers - Family Contact made)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/going-after-trendon-shavers-pirateat40-btcst-108282 (Going after Trendon Shavers, Pirateat40, BTCST)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trendon-shaverspirate-new-info-108932( Trendon Shavers/Pirate ~ New Info)



sure, if there's anything i can do to help that doesn't require thousands of dollars in lawyers fees or plane tickets, please let me know.


These guys are looking for as much info as possible.... Including deposit and withdrawal addresses for BTCST
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
September 13, 2012, 10:47:33 AM
payb.tc are you checking these topics?
are you willing to work together with the people that are going after him to recover our funds ?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trendon-shavers-family-contact-made-109126 (Trendon Shavers - Family Contact made)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/going-after-trendon-shavers-pirateat40-btcst-108282 (Going after Trendon Shavers, Pirateat40, BTCST)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trendon-shaverspirate-new-info-108932( Trendon Shavers/Pirate ~ New Info)



sure, if there's anything i can do to help that doesn't require thousands of dollars in lawyers fees or plane tickets, please let me know.
zaj
member
Activity: 103
Merit: 10
September 13, 2012, 09:22:30 AM
payb.tc are you checking these topics?
are you willing to work together with the people that are going after him to recover our funds ?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trendon-shavers-family-contact-made-109126 (Trendon Shavers - Family Contact made)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/going-after-trendon-shavers-pirateat40-btcst-108282 (Going after Trendon Shavers, Pirateat40, BTCST)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trendon-shaverspirate-new-info-108932( Trendon Shavers/Pirate ~ New Info)

zyk
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Activity: 224
Merit: 101
September 13, 2012, 07:49:16 AM
full member
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Merit: 100
Mostly Harmless...
September 13, 2012, 04:25:07 AM
Any updates? Maybe a slight chance of getting back what I invested?

Doesn't look very hopeful.  As posted elsewhere:

And paybtc had no right to deprive me of the opportunity to negotiate or whatever directly with pirate.  That's why he deserves a scammer tag.

i have the right to get paid for my time.

those of you demanding i do something have never actually offered any kind of compensation, they just make demands of me like i'm some kind of charity.

go negotiate with pirate if you want to.

if you want me to do it on your behalf, make me an offer or STFU.

member
Activity: 64
Merit: 10
September 13, 2012, 04:16:15 AM
Any updates? Maybe a slight chance of getting back what I invested?
sr. member
Activity: 467
Merit: 250
September 11, 2012, 11:18:57 PM

And to make life even more fun.... what about the 160k BTC buy wall that was up for a while today? Smiley
zyk
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
September 11, 2012, 06:52:17 PM
Is any of you sheeples still interested in his monies ?

Then please stop the earie silence and start a shitstorm as long as you can read in our OP :


Bitcoinmax is open again for business


Cheers Zyk

If everybody just STFU,  I will call it a day, doing the same and open my own thread Wink
sorry for quoting Zyk.

Can anyone confirm why the Bitcoinmax.com opened again
I tried https://bitcoinmax.com/ & it asked username & password.
Since i don't have account there, i need to know from others.


the site bitcoinmax.com was never closed.
all users are able to log in and check their paperbalance they had with pirateat40


I have mine with bitcoinmax....

Did you send your data to pirateat40 you lucky you ?

http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/09/news/companies/madoff_feeder_funds/index.htm?iid=EL

Cheers Zyk
zyk
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September 11, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
let's discuss it more *after* pirate pays (if ever).

 Smiley

You see the problem with this plan, I hope.
It's concerning that paybtc isn't explicitly stating that any payment will go first to repay principal (total deposits - total withdrawals) first before any "interest" is paid. In this case, the "interest" was just the btc of the new depositors.

In the event that paybtc did a straight percentage based payout across all his accounts just based on the current balance he would be running his own ponzi scheme.

This too could be the motivation in not handing over the details. The only reason to hide the details of a sub account would be if that sub account had withdrawn more than it had deposited and therefore revealed the location where other peoples btc went.

actually, i have already stated that. sorry this thread is so disorganised. don't really have much time to write an essay in the OP.

i originally wrote the order of the payouts:

- those that requested withdrawals before BST closed.
- principal balance up until bst closed, in order of user id (account age)
- interest accrued after bst closed, in order of user id (account age)

all that pretty much assumed full payout.

if there's a partial payout, and funds are distributed via a %, then it doesn't matter if interest+principal is paid in one tx or two, it'll still add up to the same amount.


As you, Sir chairman, still have not tidied up the OP and opened shop with a legal ToS, please don´t make any plans before asking your accountholders

as any further losses to our claims, will need to be substracted from the 2 first admin/accounts of bitcoinmax.


Thanks Zyk

legendary
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Merit: 1354
aka tonikt
September 11, 2012, 12:00:43 PM
"another" meant that i still think you are a dick at accusing goat and nefario (esp. the way you do it).
Oh no - in this case I am not wrong. Though, I might be a dick... Smiley

Nefario stole ASICMINER shares from nedbert9.
And Nefario was saying "Goat has done nothing wrong" while consciously letting him to counterfeit PPT bonds - up to the very roof of 40000.

The last time I remember being wrong on this forum was the Patrick's PPT bonds where I accused the guys of selling a fake insurance.
The insurance wasn't fake - though it wasn't "free" neither, so my intervention there was sort of justified, because people were being mislead by "free insurance" slogan flying all around the topic.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
September 11, 2012, 11:58:38 AM
another piotr_n failure... LoL
Another? hmmm...
So how many of such have you counted so far in my 620 posts?
I remember two or three... and I also remember apologizing for each single one of them.
Unlike you, you snooty dick Smiley

sorry Wink
i was just shocked by your post. dont take it personal...
How can I take it not personal, you saying "another piotr_n failure"?

"another" meant that i still think you are a dick at accusing goat and nefario (esp. the way you do it).

dont take it personal... ok ... i made an error writing this. english is not my native language and i meant to say "calm down im sorry"
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1354
aka tonikt
September 11, 2012, 11:55:33 AM
another piotr_n failure... LoL
Another? hmmm...
So how many of such have you counted so far in my 620 posts?
I remember two or three... and I also remember apologizing for each single one of them.
Unlike you, you snooty dick Smiley

sorry Wink
i was just shocked by your post. dont take it personal...
How can I take it not personal, you saying "another piotr_n failure"?

I do occasionally make mistakes, but I do always apologize for such.
And only those who never speak are never wrong.
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