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Bitcoinorama
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 03, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
#424
Quote from: runeks on July 03, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: Trongersoll on June 17, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
Quote from: Bitcoinorama on June 17, 2013, 06:23:17 PM
Cheers buddy! Cool ^^

NOTE: I'm just repeating the tail end of that big post above, as scrolling past fast may mean you miss the Mars video link:

Mars Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNPIY9L8s4&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy!

(Note: This has been freakin' exhausting!!)

what was that?!?!?!? heh, i noticed that on the right hand side of the screen just above the temperature monitor it said "Organofcorti". what was that about?
Looks like he has BitMinter's Twitter feed open in the background: https://twitter.com/BitMinter/status/343847675407527937

Yeah that had been bugging me! I figured it out eventually, thanks all the same though...
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 03, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
#423
Quote from: Trongersoll on June 17, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
Quote from: Bitcoinorama on June 17, 2013, 06:23:17 PM
Cheers buddy! Cool ^^

NOTE: I'm just repeating the tail end of that big post above, as scrolling past fast may mean you miss the Mars video link:

Mars Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNPIY9L8s4&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy!

(Note: This has been freakin' exhausting!!)

what was that?!?!?!? heh, i noticed that on the right hand side of the screen just above the temperature monitor it said "Organofcorti". what was that about?
Looks like he has BitMinter's Twitter feed open in the background: https://twitter.com/BitMinter/status/343847675407527937
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 02:26:29 PM
#422
It's standard psu
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
#421
Quote from: Bitcoinorama on July 02, 2013, 12:30:43 PM
They will advise you on PSU choice closer to the time.
It won't be more than 1000w for the largest model.
They don't supply PSU because of the issues some are having with customs.

Well 48 Volt makes more sense than 12 Volt (getting on for 100Amps at 1000W), and they are fairly easily obtainable (a quick google search  suggests around $200 or less). I wouldn't want to have the multiple connectors of a standard ATX PSU to deal with (too much risk of overloading if they come loose). Just have to wait and see.
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 12:30:43 PM
#420
Quote from: J35st3r on July 02, 2013, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: Bitcoinorama on July 02, 2013, 12:19:26 PM
Power supply is external...

Ah, OK. That solves the heat problem then, and makes the case size sensilbe. Any idea if its a standard ATX 12 Volt supply (a connector nightmare) or are they using something custom, eg 48 Volt would make the connector sizing more sensible.

They will advise you on PSU choice closer to the time.

It won't be more than 1000w for the largest model.

They don't supply PSU because of the issues some are having with customs.
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 12:27:03 PM
#419
Quote from: Bitcoinorama on July 02, 2013, 12:19:26 PM
Power supply is external...

Ah, OK. That solves the heat problem then, and makes the case size sensilbe. Any idea if its a standard ATX 12 Volt supply (a connector nightmare) or are they using something custom, eg 48 Volt would make the connector sizing more sensible.
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 12:19:26 PM
#418
Quote from: J35st3r on July 02, 2013, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: canth on July 02, 2013, 11:59:48 AM
It'd be extremely cool if it were that small - I'm dubious that they could get that much cooling going through a unit like that. The chip package alone is 55mm x 55mm - there would barely be any room in between heatsinks.

So its just about the right size. The case will be filled with heatsink and fan, plus power supply I guess (it would be insane to try to feed 12V  from an external power supply at those sort of power levels). Power supplies don't like to run hot though, so they had better take care with the design or else there will be an after-market in replacing dried out capacitors (though that problem may have been solved by now, google capacitor plague).

Power supply is external...
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 12:16:41 PM
#417
Quote from: canth on July 02, 2013, 11:59:48 AM
It'd be extremely cool if it were that small - I'm dubious that they could get that much cooling going through a unit like that. The chip package alone is 55mm x 55mm - there would barely be any room in between heatsinks.

So its just about the right size. The case will be filled with heatsink and fan, plus power supply I guess (it would be insane to try to feed 12V  from an external power supply at those sort of power levels). Power supplies don't like to run hot though, so they had better take care with the design or else there will be an after-market in replacing dried out capacitors (though that problem may have been solved by now, google capacitor plague).
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:59:48 AM
#416
Quote from: J35st3r on July 02, 2013, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: canth on July 02, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
Anyone got a guess as to what this means? 160cm would be immense - bigger than a full size refrigerator. 160mm would appear to be far to small. Thoughts?

Millimetres sounds fair (6" x 6" x 4" or 8" in old money), they only have a couple or four ASIC devices inside. Its going to have one helluva fan to blast all the heat out though (a bit like a small fan heater).

It'd be extremely cool if it were that small - I'm dubious that they could get that much cooling going through a unit like that. The chip package alone is 55mm x 55mm - there would barely be any room in between heatsinks.
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:54:24 AM
#415
Sounds like that other scam, what was the name again?
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:15:55 AM
#414
Quote from: nubbins on July 02, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: canth on July 02, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Quote from: bitpop on July 02, 2013, 11:05:07 AM
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Lol. So it's 13' x 13' x 17'? I could live in that! Smiley

It'd explain why they chose the names "Jupiter" and "Saturn" Wink

Yes, they have their own gravitational field and the overall size continues to increase as everything that isn't secured including yourselves are drawn towards them!! Shocked
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:10:00 AM
#413
Quote from: canth on July 02, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
Anyone got a guess as to what this means? 160cm would be immense - bigger than a full size refrigerator. 160mm would appear to be far to small. Thoughts?

Millimetres sounds fair (6" x 6" x 4" or 8" in old money), they only have a couple or four ASIC devices inside. Its going to have one helluva fan to blast all the heat out though (a bit like a small fan heater).
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:09:20 AM
#412
Quote from: bitpop on July 02, 2013, 11:08:09 AM
That would be awesome

Makes for a helluva deal on shipping. 1 small bedroom, cathedral ceiling - international shipping is only $100! Smiley
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:08:09 AM
#411
That would be awesome
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
#410
Quote from: canth on July 02, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Quote from: bitpop on July 02, 2013, 11:05:07 AM
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Lol. So it's 13' x 13' x 17'? I could live in that! Smiley

It'd explain why they chose the names "Jupiter" and "Saturn" Wink
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
#409
Quote from: bitpop on July 02, 2013, 11:05:07 AM
Inches

Lol. So it's 13' x 13' x 17'? I could live in that! Smiley
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 11:05:07 AM
#408
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
#407
Trying to get things back on track. How about this for a speculation topic? All units now list sizes:

Mercury: 160 x 160 x 200*
Saturn: 160 x 160 x 100
Jupiter: 160 x  160 x 200

* looks like this is still erroneously posted from the Jupiter information.

Anyone got a guess as to what this means? 160cm would be immense - bigger than a full size refrigerator. 160mm would appear to be far to small. Thoughts?
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 10:50:03 AM
#406
Quote from: DPoS on July 01, 2013, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: Paladin69 on July 01, 2013, 10:48:37 PM

It's not the hardware they are selling.  It is the business model of growing a gigantic and centralized solo mining operation with a focus on removing independent miners from the equation.  It's a terrible disease that is spreading faster than people wanted.


People keep asking for hosting services.. AM provides the same thing for their shareholders.



This. It doesn't matter whether AM solo mines or uses a pool - they give back ALL of the profits to the shareholders who chose and continue to choose to believe in them.

I'm not going to go into a long defense of AM because it's not the purpose of this thread. I will just say that there are many of us in the community who do not agree that AM is harming BTC or BTC mining as a whole. It would be wise to not bash them since they are the undisputed gold standard for execution when it comes to ASIC hardware production. Vote with your dollars by purchasing other hardware and leave it at that. AM has no intrinsic advantage over any other company and therefore competition will come, hopefully in the form of several companies. As an example, personally I think that AMC (ASIC Mining Cooperative) is a bit of a joke, BUT I sincerely hope they succeed in making hardware so that we'll have choice.

Every time someone brings up some subjective, unsubstantiated opinion about someone's greed, we're going to go down this path. Let's avoid it, OK?
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Re: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)
July 02, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
#405
Quote from: szmarco on July 02, 2013, 08:13:06 AM
when will the KNC order the chips on earth? Huh

Heh. Look, they've stated that they expect everything to be ordered when needed to hit the ship date they've committed to. At this point, we have to trust them to execute - it won't help any to push the matter.
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