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Topic: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm) - page 22. (Read 55747 times)

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So you're saying it's more-or-less OK to throw money at these people ?

I don't think it's wise to throw money at anyone. I've said that numerous times.

This point in time in the 'ASIC race' you're speculating (gambling) on informed odds.

This is what it is, a shit-hot integrated circuit design team, pairing up with two well versed IT Architects with real business experience.

They are actively minimising risk wherever possible. More tomorrow. They know what's at stake.

Developing 28nm ASICs has NRE in the millions, hence the pre-ordering. Avalon's 110nm tech would have been in the hundreds of thousands. If KnC manage this, the bar will have been raised, the gauntlet thrown down, and only professional firms of engineers need apply.  No more mickey mouse shenanigans. There will be no more uni dropouts capable of hustling competitively. KnC have a lot of respect for Yifu and want him to remain a player. I had my collar pulled on my $0.5-$2 per ASIC claims. I took that from a 2005 book (ASIC Basics), app that def does not apply to 28nm...

I have no crystal ball, but they are not wantonly out to thieve your funds, they do have the ability, there is 100% agreement from all attendees on this.

Hopefully if you're genuinely considering this, you have done/will continue to do your own research / perform due diligence, and understand what's at stake for you, and where you can minimise your risks (Credit Card for security when purchasing, not for getting into debt).

I'm not advising anyone does anything but uses common sense. You know your own risk tolerance. I've been as transparant as possible here.

People saying, too long to read, cool, can't please anyone. I know the shit i'd be on the receiving end of if I was too brief.

But for TL;DR lazy bastards, to sum it up; the guy doing the designing, Marcus, in a nut shell is a young version of James Bond's 'Q', maybe even the current rendition, whichever's cooler. If you don't have clue what i'm alluding to; GIYF! It won't cost you a quater...Cool

I did my best. Wink

Pics tomo, some of them. Daggeteo needs to clear a couple due to account info present. I'm hoping other guys took more pics than me, as I focused on recording the grilling I was giving them.
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BTW for those stating ORSoC failed with their Open RISC project, they did not. They've failed to raise sufficient funding for that project to design an open-source CPU, currently. The monies have gone no where. The amounts the investors involved have contributed thus far are openly available on the open cores site. We were shown this. Peeps can have their cash back at any-point, though Paypal takes their 5% cut, even on donations! Marcus himself has donated €3,000 (or was it $?!) from his own pocket. The rest vary. Predominantly $25. If they could get *I think* it was $25 off quarter of their Opencores membership there will be a world first Opensource CPU.

Feel free to donate to ORSoC's Opencores OpenRISC project in three months once you get hold of your miners if you believe in them by then.

http://opencores.org/donation
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Thanks for the great report.. where are the photos?
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Great information - thanks for doing this!
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Swedish women are really, really hot. But beer is pretty expensive in the country, so it's not paradise.  Oh and something about KNC being pretty legit.   Smiley
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Thanks for the info. I have high hopes these guys set a new trend for professional and transparent ASIC miner production.
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So you're saying it's more-or-less OK to throw money at these people ?
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Thanks for the awesome report. I hope KNCMiner can set a new standard for customer relations/transparency because as it stand right now its absolutely terrible.
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Swedish engineers man, awkward, introvert, funny and fucking smart Smiley
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Fantastic write-up. I await your update based on the recordings!
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Superb,
Thank you for this!
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P.s. They did say they hope all those in group shares do honour those contracts, but KnC are not liable for anything but communication with the owner himself.

Its the opposite on my end, if they honor their delivery time, there will be no problems Smiley
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