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What is with these top of the table teams losing this weekend?
First Inter to AC Milan and now Atalanta to Cagliari.
Sure they got a red card in the second half but they were playing just awful.
Nobody picked these two teams in the pool to beat Inter Milano and Atalanta and alot of parlays were thrown out including mine.

The most surprising result of the week was the Atalanta-Cagliari match. In fact, they also caught the draw, but they could not get rid of the defeat. This defeat cost them dearly as they approached the top of the league. Milan, Juventus, Napoli won, Atalanta lost. As such, they dropped to fifth place in the league. However, Cagliari was one of the three teams in the league to be relegated. It was a result that upset Atalanta fans. Many betting slips did not win because of this.
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~snip

regarding Inter, they obviously saw my pick on them on half-time, and decided to lose this one

Remind me to ask you for your picks one of these days. I thought I had the better of you in La Liga pool but you turned it all around with an exact pick later on phew!

it is tough race in La Liga, but this is obviously your season, you are topping all pools (Calcio, La Liga, EPL)

this round brought me two exact scores in Calcio, and all other missed scores Smiley

nevertheless, Sergej from Lazio was good, and I had one of best results in Sorare, but Nikola Storm from Mechelen scored two in first half, they were up 3:0, and than got himself a red card, why man, why? Could be in top20 with him without red card, and looked at some great NFT card, nevertheless, would get one Tier3 player
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Right, something is really wrong with Atalanta. Didn't watch the game as eyes were on Liverpool but I wisely avoided adding them into an acca despite odds seemingly looking good value. You said they were playing badly rdbase?

Definitely feel "good" I didn't feel for Inter or Atalanta on betting, but then I haven't survived other picks as well yet, and Napoli right now are looking a bit blunt every time they reach the box they seem to be second guessing themselves, very weird. Not that that's important as Sassuolo already down 2 goals and they're on my ticket haha, so I could very well be losing my Italian acca early anyway...

regarding Inter, they obviously saw my pick on them on half-time, and decided to lose this one

Remind me to ask you for your picks one of these days. I thought I had the better of you in La Liga pool but you turned it all around with an exact pick later on phew!
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What is with these top of the table teams losing this weekend?
First Inter to AC Milan and now Atalanta to Cagliari.
Sure they got a red card in the second half but they were playing just awful.
Nobody picked these two teams in the pool to beat Inter Milano and Atalanta and alot of parlays were thrown out including mine.
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Milan remains in touch for the scudetto with today's second-half comeback win, though Inter have a game in hand.
I still can't believe Inter lost this one. I was so sure Inter will come out on top that I made this derby my pick of the day and placed it on most tickets. Even watched first half and everything was going according to the plan, 1:0 lead with loads of good opportunities.

Then I had to go and do some stuff and I come back in 80th minute and it is already 2:1 for Milan. Seems quite unfair from what I sow of the game, but that is football. You don't use your chances and you will pay the price.
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~snip

Genoa had a second straight goalless draw earlier today, which was both impressive and surprising to most. Roma has won 14/15 at home against Genoa in the last 15 meetings between the two. Maybe Genoa's new German coach will be able to turn things around, i would hate to see them relegated.

I would hate to see them relegated as well, but if the alternative is not having football out of mainland, than better them than Cagliari
excluding Rome and Napoli, as main south cities, Serie A is playing in the north only, and that is not good for football, IMO

regarding Inter, they obviously saw my pick on them on half-time, and decided to lose this one
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Milan remains in touch for the scudetto with today's second-half comeback win, though Inter have a game in hand.

Pioli has talked all week that he will not change his style and will always play attacking football, just to see him start all three defensive midfielders at the same time (Kessie, Bennacer and Tonali). Milan were fortunate to just concede one goal in the first half, despite being completely outplayed by Inter, mainly thanks to a number of superb saves by Maignan. The thing about Milan derbies is that if you come in with a super defensive squad, you almost always get punished.

We got more on the ball in the second half thanks to Messias and Diaz subs, but no real chances were created until those two goals by Giroud which came also out of nowhere in a very short time span. Can't say it's deserved win but i will take it. lol


Genoa had a second straight goalless draw earlier today, which was both impressive and surprising to most. Roma has won 14/15 at home against Genoa in the last 15 meetings between the two. Maybe Genoa's new German coach will be able to turn things around, i would hate to see them relegated.
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Missed the first half of the derby, you know real life. Stats can't really tell me what kind of game it was but this second half, not bad entertainment. Scrappy for sure, but fast turnover (to be fair, if AFCON had as good pitches the games could also be this fast but then again we're also used to shitty WC games in Europe), and refs that just let games flow. Makes you really realise how much you can miss club football no?

Giroud double, I'm hoping for some fast-paced crazy stuff at the end before I switch over to "boring" EPL haha.

Oh and well done Trofo on first yellow cap on last round. Saved yourself some great embarrassment there Wink

And I also realised I totally forgot to put in challenge picks =\
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Serie A winter transfer window has officially closed, obviously the biggest signings are Vlahovic to Juventus and Gosens to Inter, but there are some other sneaky-good moves i want to highlight. You can find the full list of all transfers completed in the link down below:

Thanks for the very great summary,,, is there an easy way to build a table like that you did for the forum? I saw the code but it looks hard to do, mind to share? Wink

I read a lot about the Vlahovic transfer, and it was tactical as well as useful, Fiorentina will miss him a lot,,, I suppose this is typical Juventus move, but they also got very strong maybe Piatek finds this move good for him also.

2 new guys also to Atalanta, they want to find a way back to scoring a lot it seems!
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Serie A winter transfer window has officially closed, obviously the biggest signings are Vlahovic to Juventus and Gosens to Inter, but there are some other sneaky-good moves i want to highlight. You can find the full list of all transfers completed in the link down below:

source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/serie-a/transfers/wettbewerb/IT1/plus/?saison_id=2021&s_w=w&leihe=3&intern=0&intern=1

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Atalanta                                           Inter                                               Juventus                                                           AS Roma

Jeremie Boga in (from Sassuolo)      Felipe Caicedo in (from Genoa)      Dusan Vlahovic in (from Fiorentina)                  Sergio Oliveira in (from Porto)
Valentin Mihaila in (from Parma)       Robin Gosens in (from Atalanta)    Denis Zakaria in (from Bor. M'gladbach)            Borja Mayoral out (to Getafe)
Robin Gosens out (to Inter)                                                                   Rodrigo Bentancur out (to Tottenham)              Federico Fazio out (to Salernitana)
                                                                                                              Dejan Kulusevski out (to Tottenham)                Gonzalo Villar out (to Getafe)

Cagliari                                            Sassuolo                                       Sampdoria                                                         Genoa

Diego Godin out (to Atletico-MG)      Jeremie Boga out (to Atalanta)     Andrea Conti in (from AC Milan)                          Valon Behrami out (to Brescia)     
Martin Caceres out (to Levante)                                                           Tomas Rincon in (from Torino)                              Felipe Caicedo out (to Inter)
                                                                                                              Giangiacomo Magnani in (from Verona)               Goran Pandev out (to Parma)
                                                                                                              Stefano Sensi in (from Inter)

Fiorentina                                        Salernitana

Jonathan Ikone in (from Lille)          Simone Verdi in (from Torino)
Arthur Cabral in (from Basel)           Luigi Sepe in (from Parma)
Krzysztof Piatek in (from Hertha)     Federico Fazio in (from Roma)
Dusan Vlahovic out (to Juventus)           

Milan and Napoli, two teams from the top of the table had a very quiet transfer window with no major moves. Juventus had the best signing with Vlahovic, Inter with solid addition as well. It's worth noting that teams towards the bottom of the table, Genoa and Cagliari for example, have all released/transferred out some of their older/veteran players, who, as we all know, can be a distraction when things aren't going well. Salernitana is the team with the most incoming transfers, with ten.

The Serie A season resumes this Saturday with the Milan derby, it will be interesting to watch how all of these transfers have affected teams and in what way.
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It is actually an international break, you probably got mislead because I think European teams are not playing but we have World Cup qualifications in all other zones (Asia, CONCAF, South America) for sure. It was supposed to be a break in all top leagues but due to covid and postponements leagues got the permission from FIFA to reschedule some matches if possible with the provision that all international players must be allowed to go their respective national teams.

AFCON is still running as well.
Thanks for explaining. I really had no idea that we have international break now. I barely can remember such thing in end of January - begining of February. I haven't missed international breaks much and I was sure that we are free from until March Cheesy. Though, there is decisive games in qualifiers, so, maybe it won't be that bad.
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And yeah, one La Liga (Cadiz), one AFCON and a heck lot of Serie A games gone buggy on Superbru, as are still "Live". Premier League bug free weirdly enough.
Premier League is a big one, most players are on that one and that is the only one with official prizes as far as I know. Also helps that Premier League finishes their games in afternoon and has no evening fixtures.

Anyway I believe this is my first yellow cap across all pools this season. Suck it losers  Tongue
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Another 0-0 and this time I don't think we can blame poor quality players -- saw the teamsheet and it had plenty of firepower, and around HT I saw Milan did have 5 shots on goal, so we can blame Juventus for this one haha. Guess they didn't want to fight back from 3-1 again... Roma seemed to learn their lesson too, scoring 4 goals (and letting in 2). Surprised I actually got a close score from that one.

And yeah, one La Liga (Cadiz), one AFCON and a heck lot of Serie A games gone buggy on Superbru, as are still "Live". Premier League bug free weirdly enough.
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And seems that our expectations were bursted again, game ended 0:0 and Juventus managed to make 0 goals on target in whole game.
Now I look at schedule and I don't see any games in Top 5 leagues until 4th February. There is no games in cup too. Does anyone knows reason of such break? Because it's not international break this time.
It is actually an international break, you probably got mislead because I think European teams are not playing but we have World Cup qualifications in all other zones (Asia, CONCAF, South America) for sure. It was supposed to be a break in all top leagues but due to covid and postponements leagues got the permission from FIFA to reschedule some matches if possible with the provision that all international players must be allowed to go their respective national teams.

AFCON is still running as well.
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Slava Ukraini!
And seems that our expectations were bursted again, game ended 0:0 and Juventus managed to make 0 goals on target in whole game.
Now I look at schedule and I don't see any games in Top 5 leagues until 4th February. There is no games in cup too. Does anyone knows reason of such break? Because it's not international break this time.
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Seems that Superbru completely forgot about Serie A. They still haven't awarded points for yesterday's Lazio - Atalant agame and none of today's games.

~snip

yeah, there are some issues with Superbru during the weekend, there is a lot of matches that are still standing as playing, although finished long-ago, not just Calcio

regarding Milan, I would add 2:1 for home team in the end, and all those bets are passing, nevertheless, it is still goalless
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Seems that Superbru completely forgot about Serie A. They still haven't awarded points for yesterday's Lazio - Atalant agame and none of today's games.

Anyway, Milan to win and BTTS good value, right? My last bet of the night.
Yeah, looks like a good value. But just before the game I decied to go just with BTTS. I simply lost too much today :/
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Attacking players: Piccoli, Pessina, Miranchuck
Mid: Pezzela, Scalvini

Who the hell are those guys? Where are Zapata, Muriel, Pasalic, Malinovsky, Ilicic, Gosens, De roon, Hateboer? If they are all injured then it is on us that we did not anticipate problems for Atalanta.

Did not at all see the lineups for any teams in Serie A (or to be perfectly honest, not even if it's not my team anymore). Last Atalanta game I watched was actually the one Zapata got injured... before the winter break, can't remember which team it was now. And they exploded with goals on the restart, so it was pretty normal to assume they'd go on and on, but I suppose you're right. No established names on the list, could have expected no goals.

Used to put a lot more thought into my predictions on Superbru but now I leave that to betting so if the team isn't in my picks then I put random scores in here (as I was saying in my previous post) trying to back the favourite, then the form, then the home team, then the draw if I can't really decide. It seems to have worked well so far and as I said, miss it like we all did Atalanta TWICE in a row now, and it's okay. Who's going to risk choosing a draw or loss next? Don't think those 1st teamers are coming back for next game.

Anyway, Milan to win and BTTS good value, right? My last bet of the night.
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I wonder if it's become Atalanta for Serie A...
It has become Atlanta already last season for me. No matter what I pick I always loose on their games. When we are at the topic of Atalanta did you see their first eleven yesterday?
Attacking players: Piccoli, Pessina, Miranchuck
Mid: Pezzela, Scalvini

Who the hell are those guys? Where are Zapata, Muriel, Pasalic, Malinovsky, Ilicic, Gosens, De roon, Hateboer? If they are all injured then it is on us that we did not anticipate problems for Atalanta. Nobody has bench long enough to replace that many players except maybe City and Chelski.
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I think I've said a few times too, when I put in score randomly without even checking out recent forms or position on the table it tends to work, but when you get really close in the ranking and you don't want to mess shit then it all starts to go sideways again.

Lazio and Atalanta playing out a goalless draw is something I really just still can't understand, I've got BTTS on at least to parlays and Over 2.5 on another, meeeeh! That'd be the 3 goalless draw in 5 games from Atalanta, what a shame from a team that were known for their goalscoring prowess.

I've definitely been doing a hell lot more "random" than planned for Serie A and La Liga and it's weirdly working out for me now after 20+ matchdays. But then it's not really random if you kind of know the teams even without really following the leagues right? For example, for me, random means backing the home team more regularly than the away team if they're not a big name team (to me). Or picking a draw when the last 5 games form for both teams is very similar (and so easy to use Superbru for that).

I think it all comes down to style. If your style suits prediction, better to stick to it. If not, better go random. My style of planning is awful for these types of pools, and I know it's only halfway through the season but I'm super happy with how it's all turning out so far just putting picks on favourites and instinctive scoring. This season I'm literally taking less than 1 minute to put my entire week's picks in, and in fact most of my picks for all 3 leagues are done a week ahead, if not more.

Last season, I was doing all kinds of calculations, especially for premier league, and then calculating in upsets, and putting in scores looking at odds for Correct Score market, who's injured, who's playing etc.

Now I'm just: fck it, a favourite doesn't stop becoming a favourite even if they change their style and team. And it pays off to still make the odd mistake anyway as even when Atalanta didn't win like last night, or the game before, no one else backed them to not win anyway.

You know there's always one or two teams after mid season you should never bet on. in EPL, that's become Chelsea. I wonder if it's become Atalanta for Serie A...
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