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Topic: BitcoinSports.eu - Bitcoin Sportsbook - Parlays & Teasers - No Registration! - page 8. (Read 117167 times)

newbie
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sr. member
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Merit: 250
I am owed 8.2 BTC and can prove it.
but here no body can help you its just in hands of bit365 and he is not replying to any one right now
newbie
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I am owed 8.2 BTC and can prove it.
member
Activity: 82
Merit: 10
I have contracted a bitcointalk member to help me obtain documents about bit365.

I have spent 0.2 BTC. I am accepting donations. Here is a record of the transaction.

https://blockchain.info/tx/157636dfe5e2c803d7993681cb0da9821d8c974bb16c0f1d0d8dcb60d7fb7752

Proof I control this:

http://bitcoinsports.eu/bet/12fb9?destination=bet-slip

I am accepting donations at this address or at the previously posted address: 1Bcnt4thpoN4an4tUbScZSyTgyvDMyjeNq

Caveats are: 1. You must be provably owed bitcoin to obtain information. 2. It must be on or after Feb 1st as the agreement stands between myself and bit365. 3. Information regarding his home or office address, as it may lead to physical confrontation, is likely to be throttled, if obtained. In other words, I haven't decided how or if I can give that information out yet. I'd have to have crazy assurance that no harm will come to him or his family.
newbie
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When can I expect payment on http://bitcoinsports.eu/bet/0d748
can u please look at http://www.bitcoinsports.eu/inv/8bb7b it will not cash out... Thanks
now its written on a wall that you have lost your all payment because OP is now giving nothing to any one

Yeah, my fault for not really going through the thread before placing the bet but maybe they'll come through.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Bitcoin will survive
When can I expect payment on http://bitcoinsports.eu/bet/0d748
can u please look at http://www.bitcoinsports.eu/inv/8bb7b it will not cash out... Thanks
now its written on a wall that you have lost your all payment because OP is now giving nothing to any one
newbie
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newbie
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can u please look at http://www.bitcoinsports.eu/inv/8bb7b it will not cash out... Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
I certainly understand your frustration, wasubii.  However, as I tried to point out in an earlier post, I don't think it makes much sense for bit365 to stall in the hope of raking in enough money to pay people off.  He's only taking it a little over 1 BTC per day in bets now, even at the peak of the (American) football betting season.  Even if his average profit were close to the 6% it has hovered around historically, this isn't going to pay off even one of his big investors for months.  On top of that, the book has been losing money of late, at least if you believe the posted bets and numbers.  Surely he is aware of all of this.

This obviously doesn't make it any more excusable that bit365 is hiding.  I tend to believe his story about lost cold-storage bitcoins.  My best guess is that his brief optimism that the remaining lost wallets could be recovered hasn't panned out.

In any case, his lack of communication and lack of transparency about the details of the problem remains unacceptable.  He has mis-managed the PR campaign since the beginning of the problem and has exacerbated the damage to the website's reputation.  If he pays everyone back tomorrow, he will now have an uphill battle to rebuild his image. Every day that goes by just makes it a little bit worse. Seriously, bit, what do you hope to gain from your silence? 

Thanks for letting us all know that bit365 failed to meet his deadline with you, wasubii.  It's not encouraging, but it is an important bit of news.

We are in slightly different situations. You placed three BTC0.23 bets on long odds and came out on top with a lucky pick and a supposed payout of BTC9. You came to an arrangement with Bit365 whereby one bet was cancelled, returning you BTC0.23 and the other two winning bets were turned into a 'long term investment' of BTC6.

You risked BTC0.69 and you got back BTC0.23 and the promise of more later - but i imagine if you try to withdraw your new investment you will find it at the back of the queue, seeing as you have already bargained your position.

I on the other hand 'invested' in this website a total of BTC8. I wasn't looking to put my money on a straight up long odds gamble like you were - i was looking for a return on my coins with what was promised to be the ability to withdraw my investment at any time. Perhaps the book would have performed badly and we would have lost a few percent, but i was keeping a close eye on it and was ready to pull the trigger and have my investment returned to me. Fat lot of luck with that.

So congrats on getting your BTC0.23 back. That really goes a long way to put at rest the minds of the guys who are waiting on payouts of BTC50 or BTC25 or BTC8!

sr. member
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.  I cashed out my successful(!!!) 53btc investment on November 18th as the rise in btc represented a larger monetary risk than I was willing to take.  I emailed Bit365 on November 20th and asked to expedite my cashout.  He responded the next day saying he was experiencing investment grading issues and it would be resolved "within the next day or two".  Needless to say I have still not received any amount of my investment back.  

Hi All,

Bit365 responded and has given me a timeframe for payout.  I will let you all know when I receive any amount.
its too much for me you lost 53 btc and still nothing back now I sure end of this site mean now no payments for any one
newbie
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I certainly understand your frustration, wasubii.  However, as I tried to point out in an earlier post, I don't think it makes much sense for bit365 to stall in the hope of raking in enough money to pay people off.  He's only taking it a little over 1 BTC per day in bets now, even at the peak of the (American) football betting season.  Even if his average profit were close to the 6% it has hovered around historically, this isn't going to pay off even one of his big investors for months.  On top of that, the book has been losing money of late, at least if you believe the posted bets and numbers.  Surely he is aware of all of this.

This obviously doesn't make it any more excusable that bit365 is hiding.  I tend to believe his story about lost cold-storage bitcoins.  My best guess is that his brief optimism that the remaining lost wallets could be recovered hasn't panned out.

In any case, his lack of communication and lack of transparency about the details of the problem remains unacceptable.  He has mis-managed the PR campaign since the beginning of the problem and has exacerbated the damage to the website's reputation.  If he pays everyone back tomorrow, he will now have an uphill battle to rebuild his image. Every day that goes by just makes it a little bit worse. Seriously, bit, what do you hope to gain from your silence? 

Thanks for letting us all know that bit365 failed to meet his deadline with you, wasubii.  It's not encouraging, but it is an important bit of news.
newbie
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Unfortunately the timescale that Bit365 had laid out in his PM passed several days ago and he has gone back to not responding to my messages.

I can only assume that this is yet another delaying tactic while he collects bets and investments from those who haven't done their due diligence or who fail to find this thread before sending him any coins.

Disappointing

That is what I think as well.  The whole idea of these "lost wallets" is not very convincing.  Some more transparency about how exactly these coins were lost and what exactly is being done that takes this time is in order (as are more frequent updates)

With that said, blind accusations don't really accomplish much so I will wait patiently like I have been for the past 7 weeks for my bitcoins.  I will be much more active if I haven't received my investment by the deadline Bit365 gave me.  I hope it doesn't come to that
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Unfortunately the timescale that Bit365 had laid out in his PM passed several days ago and he has gone back to not responding to my messages.

I can only assume that this is yet another delaying tactic while he collects bets and investments from those who haven't done their due diligence or who fail to find this thread before sending him any coins.

Disappointing
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
.  I cashed out my successful(!!!) 53btc investment on November 18th as the rise in btc represented a larger monetary risk than I was willing to take.  I emailed Bit365 on November 20th and asked to expedite my cashout.  He responded the next day saying he was experiencing investment grading issues and it would be resolved "within the next day or two".  Needless to say I have still not received any amount of my investment back.  

Hi All,

Bit365 responded and has given me a timeframe for payout.  I will let you all know when I receive any amount.
member
Activity: 82
Merit: 10
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What really irks me is that I have not received one response from my numerous emails I sent after the first response, even when the rare updates mentioned how important keeping communication is.  
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That irks me too. I believe that bit365 takes advantage of anonymity to distance himself comfortably from customer support.

In other words, he sleeps at night peacefully without thinking about your 53 btc. But you sleep at night thinking, "How when... or even IF ... [you] will ever see [your] btc ever again."

To me, this is a violation of karmic law. As such, I have assured bit365 two things.

1) I will have his identity by January 31. He doesn't know me. But he MAY come to know me -- as many have already come to know me -- by dismissing me as inconsequential. Though this has not been pleasant historically to others, he is free to choose.

I assure you that I have worked every single day, including Christmas to uncover his identity. I will have it by the end of January.

2) If his bets are still outstanding by the end of January OR he has not come to some agreement with his creditors by this time ... I will give the documents I have to anyone to whom he owes bitcoin. I told him this in order to force him to come to payment agreements with clients such as yourself. I am disappointed to learn that he has not reached out to you. Perhaps he wants to learn "the hard way."

I am not a threatening man. But I make the promises that I keep. This is how I sleep at night.

I am telling you this in case he does not work anything out with you by February 1, to reach out to me and accept the documents that I have. Perhaps I will conclude his identity; or perhaps I will do 99% of the work that a third party needs to do so.

Speaking of which, a third party has been tentatively contracted. His fee is 1 btc, however, I have committed to 0.1 btc.

I am accepting donations for my efforts and the efforts of the third party I have contracted: 1Bcnt4thpoN4an4tUbScZSyTgyvDMyjeNq.

JJ
member
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Actually, I used to do SEO for a living (not much of it ... $25K annually) and you do what this guy did which is "spam" without spamming, ie, is not anonymous sports betting with bitcoins what we are complaining is out of order?

I lived in a gray area for a few months. He is not affiliated with bitcoinsports.eu, as if you check his eurid registration, he left plenty of breadcrumbs, which bit365 did not do.
legendary
Activity: 1578
Merit: 1000
May the coin be with you..
Fair enough, just don't want to see you linked to this in anyway if you have nothing to do with it that's all.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Bitcoin will survive
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legendary
Activity: 1578
Merit: 1000
May the coin be with you..
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Do you honestly think its a good idea to post a almost identical site in a thread where people have by the looks of things been scammed for serious amounts of money?

You don't want to get linked to this in anyway.
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