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Looks like MI are on their way to the playoffs yet again. Amazing consistency. At this rate, it looks like they will face off against DC in the finals.

Yeap, another smooth game for MI. Close to playoffs round. And I think they will made to final also. But not sure about DC. Because KKR has a good history in playoffs round. And also luck favor them maximum time in the late time of IPL. So, they have a good chance to play final if they make it to playoffs first.
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Thrashing win from MI  Huh Vishnu and kpk333 got 2 points. Interesting call certainly. KKR has been so poor these days. I wonder what's wrong with their batsman. It wouldn't be that easy for MI to win but..
Anyone playing MPL here? I'm being addicted to this.
Edit- I see it's easy win for MI.
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Looks like MI are on their way to the playoffs yet again. Amazing consistency. At this rate, it looks like they will face off against DC in the finals.

Wait a minute Karthik step down as captain... excellent move by KKR

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Guess Smith smith is also stepping down...
Excellent move indeed. I expected KKR to play badly against MI since they have been a bit lucky with their recent wins and luck always tends to run out. Also, Smith stepping down could help RR since he could focus primarily on his batting.
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And we have three winners in this round (Round 4) LOL
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On second thought there should be some consolation prize or may be name calling if someone earns a spoon every now and then. I would suggest public shaming would do lot of good there  Grin

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Wait a minute Karthik step down as captain... excellent move by KKR

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Guess Smith smith is also stepping down...
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What a round it was! vishnu got 6 points in the first two matches and became the round topper, in 3rd round, hector didn't give any chance to other but in 4th, there's 3 winners. People are getting improved in predicting matches.
Kartik decided to hand over the captaincy but now, the situation is even worse. Morgan and Russel are trying to get back in the match and they must have to play longer.
Damn, Russel is gone now. Picked MI but can't see KKR to perform such bad.
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Congrats to all the 3 winners and this has been  tough round where we had tie among 3 of our participants. Royse777 did made a good comeback in last match as was not in top 2 before yesterday match and jumped well to be the 1 of the winners.

Just saw everyone except 1 till now has went with Mumbai's win for today's match  Shocked
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Anyway, maybe I am indeed putting too much blame to Kohli, but he does make bad decision and losses matches. Isn't he the captain of Indian T20 team too? It will be interesting to see how he goes when Dhoni is not around.
The blame should be leveled to Kohli and the team management for delaying AB de Villiers which did not help the team in any way and i never saw Kohli as a great captain especially in IPL as they always had a good batting unit but never utilized them according to their strengths and the next blunder was giving Mohammed Siraj the 16th over while he should have gone with Udana but i thought Kings XI Punjab messed the match up when they took the match till the last game when they should have finished it in the 18th over.
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3 winners in this round Roll Eyes, Congrates to all

Is there any chance to drop Smith?  Grin Grin

You want to drop one of the best batsmen in the world, just because he had a couple of bad performances? He has scored 163 runs from 8 matches, which is not a bad statistic as far as T20 format is concerned. He scored half century two times, and on both the occasions RR won. Also, he did a decent job with captaining the RR squad, especially with such a young side.
Lol it was joke Grin but it doesn't hurt to explore all the scenario and now you bring it up question of "couple of bad performance" so let's see.

Vs Chennai at sharjah = 69
VS Punjab at sharjah = 50
VS KKR at Dubai = 3
VS RCB  at Abu Dhabi = 5
VS MI at Abu Dhabi = 6
VS Delhi at Sharjah = 24
Vs SRH at Dubai = 5 ,
Vs Delhi at Dubai = 1

You can clearly see that his performance as batter going down drastically
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The inclusion of Chris Gayle worked for KXIP, although they had to demote him to no.3 slot. I am surprised that they are still sticking with Maxwell. I don't understand this obsession with Maxwell. He has failed in every department this season. The inclusion of Chris Morris by RCB was also a welcome step. He is one of the best T20 players available. Another change I would like to see is the inclusion of Sandeep Lamichhane in DC. Also, it will be nice to have either Imran Tahir or Mitchell Santner in the CSK playing XI. BTW, anyone missing Lockie Ferguson in the KKR lineup?
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I feel like you are blaming Kohli way too much here since there are lot of variables in IPL Cricket and he didn't expect some of his decisions to backfire, but it happens to  the best of them.
Yes I am. He is the captain so blame will go to him obviously. This is what he said after post match interview:

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It was quite surprising, we thought the game might finish in the 18th. A bit of pressure at the back end can confuse you, anything can happen in this game. Good performance by KXIP, we were not in the game tonight. [About AB batting at 6] We had a chat, a message from outside about left-right combination and we wanted to go with it because they had two leggies. Sometimes things don't come off. We're pretty happy with the decisions we took, but it didn't come off. Having 170 was a decent score. The idea was to let them [Dube and Sundar] to get their eye in. They bowled well. It's not a great ground for bowlers but that's not an excuse. We take pride in our bowling. tonight it didn't come off and we have to accept it and take responsibility. There's always something to learn to go back and understand. There was no conversation with Chahal to be honest. The only conversation was with the last ball, we wanted him to push it away. Credit to Nicholas.
So pretty sure that it was not bathroom break :-D

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I do agree with you about Siraj though. How many more chances will Kohli give him?
How would you explain Chahal's over in the super over when Sundar had very going in other matches in super overs.

. 1 6 . 4 4 helped the batsmen to boost their confidence after having a good over just before that over from Morris. Kohli wanted to stop the rhythm but calling Chahal instead of Sundar was wrong.


Anyway, maybe I am indeed putting too much blame to Kohli, but he does make bad decision and losses matches. Isn't he the captain of Indian T20 team too? It will be interesting to see how he goes when Dhoni is not around.
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Kohli and RCB teams really need to understand that stupidity does not pay off. A working strategy should remain until it starts failing, you do not over do it with new experiment.
I feel like you are blaming Kohli way too much here since there are lot of variables in IPL Cricket and he didn't expect some of his decisions to backfire, but it happens to  the best of them.

I was confused about ABD being sent in late too, but he could have had his own reasons for coming in late(Bathroom break etc). Also, I think it was the team management's call to send him in late.

I do agree with you about Siraj though. How many more chances will Kohli give him? Also, Punjab almost choked once again. It's like they forget how to play basic Cricket in the final overs. Weird.
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And we have three winners in this round (Round 4) LOL



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Both has same points. And if we have similar scenario then we will decide by:
1st - Number of wins

If number of wins are same then we will decide by:
2nd - Margin (higher margin)

If the same margin then we will decide by:
3rd - Slam (higher slam)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55006216

So,
roysesuper, Rajavu and pffrt with equal points (9), equal wins (7), equal margin points (2), equal slam points (0). We have no way to pick one winner for this round.

Congratulations to the round 4 winners :-D

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Round table has been updated. Please check: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-ipl-prediction-pool-discussion-5114470
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Three wrong decision in one match. How would a team expect to win this match. Captaincy from Kohli was nightmare, I would say Kohli had more contribution than any of the player of KXIP to win this match.

1. Sending AB de Villiers at 6. I agree with Pffrt that sending Sundar was okay but sending Dube before de Villiers? Is he a better batsman than de Villiers?
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We had a chat, a message from outside about left-right combination and we wanted to go with it because they had two leggies.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8048/commentary/1216531/royal-challengers-bangalore-vs-kings-xi-punjab-31st-match-indian-premier-league-2020-21

Yeah, BS excuse. As if de Villiers can not play leggies. In fact, I do not agree with sending Sundar too. In no way they are better player than de Villiers. it would make sense if de Villiers was off form, struggling to score runs. He is an inform batsman and played a big score in the last match. Having him in the dressing room and both Sundar  and Dube were wasting one after another ball - was a pain to watch. Besides in the middle over there were no aggression from Kohli too. It was like he was playing the balls to take singles.

2. Giving ball to Chahal in the 4th over. Why? You have Sundar who bowled really well in super-overs in last few matches why would you needed Chahal to replace him at that time? I am not saying Chahal is an average bowler or bad bowler. Why would you experiment against an working strategy. Sundar's quickers in the super over are more effective than any other spinners in super over.

3. Not using Udana when he needed to bowl. In the 16th over why would Kohli needed Siraj? Udana had 3 overs left. 16th, 18th, 20th done! KXIP were waiting for Siraj because he is the one who can be used to go big and in that important over Kohli called him instead of Udana! It's like Kholi gave it without any fight that KXIP needed at that time. After giving 20 runs in one over from 46 to 26 runs needed was game over at that time for RCB.

Kohli and RCB teams really need to understand that stupidity does not pay off. A working strategy should remain until it starts failing, you do not over do it with new experiment.
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Didn't expect thwt Punjab will win the match with freaking 8 wickets in their hand. Bowler selection from Kohli mad the match hard for RCB. Punjab lost last 5 matches but won this match like nothing. Very disappointed with Kohlis captaincy.

Congratulations for the round 4 toppers.
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How enjoyable match we have watched today? It was really enjoyable and full of fun match to me basically the second innings (KXIP battings). The last over was quite fun. 5 runs needed in 6 balls. Gayle was trying to finish the game by shooting six. But he can not do that Grin. the game slowly going to KXIP favor almost. Pooran was so lucky that the Six was not a catch ball.  Grin
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Such a dram at the last over? I thought we are going to see another fixed match tonight. But no, Pooran hit a Six at the end. 2 run needed from 6 balls with 9 wickets in hand and still KXIP had to go till the last ball!
Who is going to be the round champ? I see Royse777 at the top of the list at the moment while I was at the top before the match end  Shocked
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^^ Damaged done for good and only Kohli could give correct answer. last over might give some hope and momentum to RCB. Pitches are getting slow at every ground so who knows if team batting second might fail to chase even sub par total.

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And don't know what's happening with the Smith-Samson duo, they both are failing especially Smith's form should be major concern for Royals as he's the captain.
I was thinking exactly the same. Uthapa and Buttler can open up while Samson on number 3 and Smith on number 4 and Stokes on number 5 followed by Riyan Parag and Rahul Tewatia. This in itslef looks like a pretty solid line up. Utahappa obviously is not able to perform at any place so giving him a chance to open might give him time to set his foot in. If he is successful RR would get a great opening pair otherwise they might as well decide to drop Utahappa. Another shocking experiment could be to give Riyan Parag a chance to open up. Samson who started the tournament so well is now struggling so badly to score runs.
Is there any chance to drop Smith?  Grin Grin
Haha ofcourse not. KXIP haven't been able to drop Maxwell who has been consistently performing bad and you are expecting RR to drop someone like Smith. These actually are some big names and you just have to keep them in playing XI I even think that even BCCI might force Franchises to keep such players in playing XI because they do increase viewership despite of their performance. Moreover one man today has proven that Experience is something and that man is Chris Gayle. He has batted so nicely today now I am pretty sure that KL Rahul is not a good captain. He doesn't know how to maintain balance in the team. You have to play at your opponent weaknesses if you don't have any strength of yours. KXIP today played at strength of the pitch which has helped them win this game. They bowled with their spin bowlers on a slow track and restricted RCB at 171. But yes I am not happy from KXIP as they took away my margin point. They could have easily won this with more than 5 balls remaining don't know why they decided to slow down and took it to the last ball. That's even more strange when they need to maintain a high NRR considering they might not get enough points to qualify for the playoffs.
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Is there any chance to drop Smith?  Grin Grin

You want to drop one of the best batsmen in the world, just because he had a couple of bad performances? He has scored 163 runs from 8 matches, which is not a bad statistic as far as T20 format is concerned. He scored half century two times, and on both the occasions RR won. Also, he did a decent job with captaining the RR squad, especially with such a young side.
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Can someone help me to understand the logic behind sending Sundar and Dube?
Sundar was fine to send as there were 13 overs left if I'm correct but sending Dube at 5 was a wrong decision certainly. There was a point, maintaining a left and a right hands to face the leg spinner. But it was also wrong ddecision for two reasons- one, the ground is so small and bowlers have almost zero dominating power. Second, like you said ABD is called 360. And if we look at 3 matches where ABD played at 6, he barely had any good score (reason is simple though, it's almost the end of a game). Certainly ABD should be sent at 5, he could play some balls, set him and go for bigger later.
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And Kohli asked Chahal to bowl the 4th over (in power play) where he had Udana and Sundar to call. In regular days he usually calls Sundar but today again new experiment.

So many gambling in one match. Why?
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