Bitcointalk Merit Dashboard - page 16.

fillippone

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 16328

Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 30, 2021, 12:56:30 PM

I'd hate to have to factor in someone's merit-giving history before granting them merits, and it's not something I've thought of before and don't intend to do--but if I'm basically sending merits to a dead end, I'm not helping the merit system as a whole, and that's something I very much want to do.

I actually have done something similar to this in the past.
I sent merits to a very good users, who later kept being in the first position of the list compiled by @Coin-1 of users with greater merit stash.

So I didn’t sent him many merits untile he ed used to start useng his stash.

As you said, sending merits to a merits hoarded doesn’t help the merit system and ultimately the forum.

BITCOIN4X

legendary

Activity: 1974

Merit: 1150

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 30, 2021, 12:56:30 PM

I wonder what the problem is. Are merit sources being stingy, or does the problem lie with members who aren't merit sources?

I'm not sure merit source is stingy even though I haven't had the chance to receive merit from all merit source members. It is possible that the habits distribution of merit source of 1 merit per tx may affect the decline if they do not find more post to post merit. I don't know of any other reason worth dropping as some of the merit source can be seen depleting their sMerit faster than usual.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 30, 2021, 12:56:30 PM

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It’s actually a pretty decent week in terms of newly appointed high ranks. I don’t have exactly what I’d call comparable data.

Since the introduction of the Merit System, I make it 145 accounts have made it to Legendary, and 158 to Hero, needing Merits in the process (see https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up?:language=en-US&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link).
I don’t keep track of the associated ranking dates, other by the posting I make of those detected on a weekly basis (i.e. I’d need to go over all this thread to break these figures by year - end of 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021).

The prior data I do have, which as I stated is not exactly on the same scale for comparison, is this:

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on November 15, 2018, 07:44:35 AM

<…> 3. Legendary Date of Register vs Last Active

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The focus is different, but we can see the difference in numbers (with a stretch of imagination).

The Sceptical Chymist

legendary

Activity: 3500

Merit: 6981

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Quote from: fillippone on July 30, 2021, 08:39:36 AM

It might be too early to call, but the downward trend is resuming.

That's surprising, especially after Theymos upped the sMerit allotments for merit sources and added new ones. Personally, I have never given out as many merits in a one month time period than I have in July. I started off the month with 1000 source sMerits, and as of this moment I think I have about 145 left.

I wonder what the problem is. Are merit sources being stingy, or does the problem lie with members who aren't merit sources? It's all well and good that I gave out 800+ merits this month, but if the members who received them don't pay them forward....then there's a problem. Unfortunately, there's not much any of us can do to make anyone give out merits if they don't want to.

I'd hate to have to factor in someone's merit-giving history before granting them merits, and it's not something I've thought of before and don't intend to do--but if I'm basically sending merits to a dead end, I'm not helping the merit system as a whole, and that's something I very much want to do.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 30, 2021, 07:17:50 AM

In addition, there are 2 new Legendary and 4 new Hero Members this week.

That seems absurdly low, but I don't know what the data looked like before the merit system started. DdmrDdmr, do you have any of that data compiled by any chance, i.e., how many new Hero and Legendary members there were on a weekly basis prior to January 2018?

Rikafip

legendary

Activity: 1722

Merit: 5937

Quote from: fillippone on July 30, 2021, 08:39:36 AM

It might be too early to call, but the downward trend is resuming.

I think that last two weeks results are mostly due that sudden increase in merit; people probably spent it way fast, so merit shared started slowing down. 24773 merit shared during July is the best result in the last year and a half (since February 2020).

Quote from: fillippone on July 30, 2021, 08:39:36 AM

Really curious about the new equilibrium.

Considering the overall lower forum activity, I think current amount of merit is more than enough, but yeah it will be interesting to see how it pans out in the next couple of months.

fillippone

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 16328

Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

It might be too early to call, but the downward trend is resuming.
Of course some Merit sources have still adapt to new allowances, some might have depleted too quickly (I do plead guilty), while some other might still have a backlog.

Really curious about the new equilibrium.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Update 30/07/2021:

The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit.
Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard.

Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data:

Total sMerit: 943.009
Total TXs: 511.206
From Users: 23.627
To Users: 40.001
minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21
maxDate: 2021-07-30 02:46:39

Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (19/07/2021 .. 25/07/2021) is 6.352, which is down 6,01% from the previous week.

In addition, there are 2 new Legendary and 4 new Hero Members this week.

20kevin20 -> Legendary from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.
logfiles -> Legendary from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off.

gembitz -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.
Husires -> Hero Member from Old Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off.
Mpamaegbu -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.
suzanne5223 -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.

Note:
-Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Update 23/07/2021:

The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit.
Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard.

Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data:

Total sMerit: 937.522
Total TXs: 508.355
From Users: 23.604
To Users: 39.865
minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21
maxDate: 2021-07-23 02:26:45

Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (12/07/2021 .. 18/07/2021) is 6.758, which is down 2,20% from the previous week.

In addition, there are 2 new Legendary and 1 new Hero Members this week.

Cnut237 -> Legendary from Full Member during Merit System kick-off.
Julien_Olynpic -> Legendary from Full Member during Merit System kick-off.
Nestade -> Hero Member from Member during Merit System kick-off.

Note:
-Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.

fillippone

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 16328

Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 17, 2021, 02:32:58 AM

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Thank you. Yes I was certain those surge in merit distribution are direct consequence of a specific event. However I genuinely tought art contest was by far the biggest one, but it probably spread his influence over multiple weeks.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: fillippone on July 16, 2021, 04:38:42 PM

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Third really, although each massive increase has it’s trigger event:

1)   17/09/2018 .. 23/09/2018 -> 167,35% increase from prior week -> 9.587 awarded Merits -> Trigger: Merit Source review
2)   18/11/2019 .. 24/11/2019 -> 148,54% increase from prior week -> 22.254 awarded Merits -> Trigger: 10th Anniversary art contest
3)   05/07/2021 .. 11/07/2021 -> 121,97% increase from prior week -> 6.910 awarded Merits -> Trigger: Merit Source review

fillippone

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 16328

Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 16, 2021, 02:08:44 AM

Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (05/07/2021 .. 11/07/2021) is 6.910, which is up 121,97% from the previous week.

Wow, only a tad lower than the forum record I think is at 148,54%. Can you confirm that?

I am going to comment on this record later, on another thread of yours.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Update 16/07/2021:

The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit.
Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard.

Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data:

Total sMerit: 930.843
Total TXs: 505.147
From Users: 23.583
To Users: 39.713
minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21
maxDate: 2021-07-16 02:39:11

Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (05/07/2021 .. 11/07/2021) is 6.910, which is up 121,97% from the previous week.

In addition, there are 0 new Legendary and 5 new Hero Members this week.

BlackHatCoiner -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off.
Mbitr -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off.
Porfirii -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.
soliton -> Hero Member from Full Member during Merit System kick-off.
teosanru -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.

Note:
-Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.

fillippone

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 16328

Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 09, 2021, 02:21:17 AM

Update 09/07/2021:

The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit.
Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard.
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Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (28/06/2021 .. 04/07/2021) is 3.113, which is down 11,79% from the previous week.

Nevertheless, current partial week, after Merit Source readjustments, renders so far an aggregate awarded sMerit of 4.521, which is up 45,23% from the previous week.

Ah, nice that, I never noticed you were decoupling complete week compared to most recent data, so I was expecting to see the massive increase in Merits sent this week.
I am far ahead distributing my new merit source, but I see on average others might be lagging behind.
I guess there will need some time to adjust to the new sMerits allowances.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Update 09/07/2021:

The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit.
Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard.

Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data:

Total sMerit: 924.482
Total TXs: 501.925
From Users: 23.558
To Users: 39.579
minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21
maxDate: 2021-07-09 02:51:09

Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (28/06/2021 .. 04/07/2021) is 3.113, which is down 11,79% from the previous week.

Nevertheless, current partial week, after Merit Source readjustments, renders so far an aggregate awarded sMerit of 4.521, which is up 45,23% from the previous week.

In addition, there are 0 new Legendary and 3 new Hero Members this week.

aoluain -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.
casperBGD -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off.
FatFork -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off.

Note:
-Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.

fillippone

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 16328

Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

Quote from: skarais on July 08, 2021, 06:35:34 AM

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Thanks @DdmrDdmr @fillippone, I updated the merit activity and monthly post for Indonesian local board. It seem that an incident like this has happened before when I haven't updated monthly post activities and merit for local board or to be precise in July and August 2020. Of course, because the activity chart that I made only specializes on Indonesian local board, then -91 will make one upside down candle on the monthly chart. Again, thanks for the explanation.

As I am doing this kind of updates for the Italian board, I regularly notice this kind of “cleaning” activity taking place from time to time across all boards.
My suggestion is to ask some “colour” on this to your local moderator as he could give you some more insight.

Ah! This is going to help our board overcoming yours! (Long shot extrapolation needed!)

skarais

legendary

Activity: 2464

Merit: 2094

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 08, 2021, 06:17:07 AM

Not exactly. It means that -91 net posts were "created". Net posts are: Created – deleted +/moved. It is also subject to forum reindexes, which may affect these counters (data is derived from forum official stats, comparing consecutive months).
Essentially, it means that there have been more posts deleted or moved from the Indonesian Altcoin board, than created.

Quote from: fillippone on July 08, 2021, 06:21:31 AM

Yes, negative numbers means the total post count of a specific board has decreased compared to previous snapshot.
This can be due to a number of reasons, namely

Post deleted by user
Post deleted by moderator
Post moved to a different board

It is important to notice that whatever the cause, the posts that have beencdelted/moved, might have been posted earlier than the last period. I.e., regarding this specific issue, total post in June on that board might well be positive, but outnumbered by old post deletions by a moderator.

Edit: sorry, didn’t notice @ddmrddmr already answered

Thanks @DdmrDdmr @fillippone, I updated the merit activity and monthly post for Indonesian local board. It seem that an incident like this has happened before when I haven't updated monthly post activities and merit for local board or to be precise in July and August 2020. Of course, because the activity chart that I made only specializes on Indonesian local board, then -91 will make one upside down candle on the monthly chart. Again, thanks for the explanation.

fillippone

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 16328

Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

Quote from: skarais on July 08, 2021, 06:05:56 AM

@DdmrDdmr, what does -91 mean in June post count for Indonesian altcoins. Does it indicate that during the month of June a total of 91 post on the Indonesian altcoin board were deleted?

Yes, negative numbers means the total post count of a specific board has decreased compared to previous snapshot.
This can be due to a number of reasons, namely

Post deleted by user
Post deleted by moderator
Post moved to a different board

It is important to notice that whatever the cause, the posts that have beencdelted/moved, might have been posted earlier than the last period. I.e., regarding this specific issue, total post in June on that board might well be positive, but outnumbered by old post deletions by a moderator.

Edit: sorry, didn’t notice @ddmrddmr already answered

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: skarais on July 08, 2021, 06:05:56 AM

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Not exactly. It means that -91 net posts were "created". Net posts are: Created – deleted +/moved. It is also subject to forum reindexes, which may affect these counters (data is derived from forum official stats, comparing consecutive months).
Essentially, it means that there have been more posts deleted or moved from the Indonesian Altcoin board, than created.

When this happens, normally due to an increase in moderation, it’s best to discard the month’s reading for the board. If it happens sparsely, it should not be much of an issue. If it happens regularly, as it does lately on the Russian Local board, it renders the post count unusable/unreliable for that board for the implicated months. It could also lead to asking the local mod, just to understand better what happened for the local language community.

skarais

legendary

Activity: 2464

Merit: 2094

@DdmrDdmr, what does -91 mean in June post count for Indonesian altcoins. Does it indicate that during the month of June a total of 91 post on the Indonesian altcoin board were deleted?

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Update 02/07/2021:

The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit.
Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard.

Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data:

Total sMerit: 918.729
Total TXs: 499.085
From Users: 23.536
To Users: 39.455
minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21
maxDate: 2021-07-02 02:46:39

Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (21/06/2021 .. 27/06/2021) is 3.529, which is up 8,99% from the previous week.

In addition, there are 1 new Legendary and 2 new Hero Members this week.

hv_ -> Legendary from Hero Member during Merit System kick-off.
Quidat -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off.
shasan -> Hero Member from Old Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off.

Note:
-Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.

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