Topic: [BitFunder] - KENILWORTH - Real World Mining Opportunity with Bitcoins - page 6. (Read 54634 times)
November 13, 2013, 12:57:15 AM
So... what do I do with my shares still @ BF?
November 12, 2013, 11:06:30 PM
Kenilworth BitFunder is transfering to Havelock
Thank you for your patience
November 12, 2013, 07:44:20 PM
As usual, people didn't heed my warning. Good luck getting your money back.
what warning?
If you read the company's statement, Kenilworth has stated that their field testing results will be ready around mid december. That means they will know if there is gold or not after that time. Until then these shares will just hang there, any movement is from investor impatience or ignorance, most likely both.
ofc, If there is no news or bad news after mid December - bagholders are hooped. It is an "exploration" company afterall, its different than a purely "mining" company. Their primary goal is locating rich veins of ore to mine.
However, listing on an exchange, or at least some acknowledgement that there is progress on this front would help greatly with investor confidence.
November 12, 2013, 06:04:53 PM
As usual, people didn't heed my warning. Good luck getting your money back.
November 12, 2013, 03:21:33 PM
news of a new exchange?
November 11, 2013, 12:34:30 PM
I doubt much will happen anyway. There hasn't been movement in about a week (and it was mainly painting the tape).
Yes, I also don't expect much to happen.
Just sit back and wait how the problem with Bitfunder closing will be solved.
For the "big" players I don't fear too much.
November 11, 2013, 11:49:48 AM
I doubt much will happen anyway. There hasn't been movement in about a week (and it was mainly painting the tape).
November 11, 2013, 11:27:23 AM
Or, push them to me, I'll sell them at market price and transfer the BTC to you (less transaction fees and a 5% management fee).
Good idea!
I wonder why there had not been an offer like this in this thread before.
trepex
November 11, 2013, 11:22:54 AM
...
In this example, you're buying for about 55% of the price one would get on Bitfunder. It gets worse when you sell more shares.
In this example, you're buying for about 55% of the price one would get on Bitfunder. It gets worse when you sell more shares.
Yes, that's the main impact.
BUT: The BID orderbook (medium prices) will not change when multiple people buy shares directly!
November 11, 2013, 11:21:04 AM
Or, push them to me, I'll sell them at market price and transfer the BTC to you (less transaction fees and a 5% management fee).
November 11, 2013, 11:19:52 AM
So, it's a complicated way of saying you're buying them for much less than what one could get by simply dumping the shares on Bitfunder.
Yes. (OK, when you buy 1/3 of the best BID price: no)
As probably not everyone is really fully understanding what my offer with the calculations) really means, let me give you some
examples (from real data):
Best 5 current offers:
10 ฿0.00007801
1,500 ฿0.0000780
30 ฿0.00007751
875 ฿0.00007750
30 ฿0.0000750
You want to sell 3 shares. Medium price selling 3*3=9 shares = ฿0.00007801
You want to sell 10 shares. Medium price selling 3*10=30 shares = (10*฿0.00007801 + 20*฿0.0000780) / 30 = ฿0.000078003333
(bad real sample data, sorry)
You want to sell 600 shares. Medium price selling 3* 600=1800 shares = (10*฿0.00007801 + 1500*฿0.0000780 + 30*฿0.00007751+60*฿0.00007750) / 1800 = ฿0.00006930
November 11, 2013, 11:04:11 AM
So, it's a complicated way of saying you're buying them for much less than what one could get by simply dumping the shares on Bitfunder.
Yes. (OK, when you buy 1/3 of the best BID price: no)
It's an offer for people who can not sell them or need a solution now.
I am sorry when I did offend anyone. When you are a US citizen, complain to your government!
November 11, 2013, 11:00:42 AM
So, it's a complicated way of saying you're buying them for much less than what one could get by simply dumping the shares on Bitfunder.
edit:
ATM, on Bitfunder:
SELL 10.000 shares = 0.34753984 BTC -> avg price 0.000034753984
SELL 30.000 shares = 0.569591BTC -> avg price 0.000018986367
In this example, you're buying for about 55% of the price one would get on Bitfunder. It gets worse when you sell more shares.
edit:
ATM, on Bitfunder:
SELL 10.000 shares = 0.34753984 BTC -> avg price 0.000034753984
SELL 30.000 shares = 0.569591BTC -> avg price 0.000018986367
In this example, you're buying for about 55% of the price one would get on Bitfunder. It gets worse when you sell more shares.
November 11, 2013, 10:19:18 AM
can we transfer shares to another exchange platform?
Hello,
if anyone wants to sell KENILWORTH shares but can not do this anymore, I am interested in obtaining some.
Push the shares to my account on Bitfunder. Minimum transaction: 5000 shares (ask me for smaller amounts)
I am a German (European) citizen, fully verified at Bitfunder.
Payment via BTC or € via SEPA wire transfer.
International wire possible if the buyer pays for my fees as well (about 15€ + money conversion rate)
€ price will be calculated from this average €/BTC price: https://bitcoinaverage.com/#EUR|nogox (note the |nogox !)
Hero members from the German subforum have my verified address.
Please also check my active in the KnC Miner discussion or in this German thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3380620
to see that I am a serious guy
Calculate my offer using this script.
Copy&Paste the BID Section from Bitfunder into this Unix script and use the number of shares wanted as parameter:
Quote
if test $# -ne 1
then
echo "Missing parameter: number of shares"
exit 1
fi
grep -v "Quick Fill" | tr -d ",฿" | \
awk -v buying=$1 'BEGIN {buying=buying*3; price_sum=0; bought=0}
{
if(bought > 0) { printf "# buying: %d, bought: %d, paid: %.8f (%.8f), avg: %.8f\n", buying, bought, price_sum, price_sum/3, price_sum/bought }
if(bought+$1 < buying) {bought=bought+$1; price_sum=price_sum+$1*$2}
else {if(bought < buying) {price_sum=price_sum+(buying-bought)*$2; bought=buying}}}
END {printf "%d shares will be bought for %.8f BTC (avg: %.8f BTC/share)\n", bought/3, price_sum/3, price_sum/bought}'
then
echo "Missing parameter: number of shares"
exit 1
fi
grep -v "Quick Fill" | tr -d ",฿" | \
awk -v buying=$1 'BEGIN {buying=buying*3; price_sum=0; bought=0}
{
if(bought > 0) { printf "# buying: %d, bought: %d, paid: %.8f (%.8f), avg: %.8f\n", buying, bought, price_sum, price_sum/3, price_sum/bought }
if(bought+$1 < buying) {bought=bought+$1; price_sum=price_sum+$1*$2}
else {if(bought < buying) {price_sum=price_sum+(buying-bought)*$2; bought=buying}}}
END {printf "%d shares will be bought for %.8f BTC (avg: %.8f BTC/share)\n", bought/3, price_sum/3, price_sum/bought}'
I am offering the medium bid price for 3x the amount of shares you want to buy.
Sample result for 10000 shares:
Quote
../bitfunder.sh 10000 < kenilworth.txt
# buying: 30000, bought: 10, paid: 0.00078010 (0.00026003), avg: 0.00007801
# buying: 30000, bought: 1510, paid: 0.11778010 (0.03926003), avg: 0.00007800
# buying: 30000, bought: 1540, paid: 0.12010540 (0.04003513), avg: 0.00007799
# buying: 30000, bought: 2415, paid: 0.18791790 (0.06263930), avg: 0.00007781
# buying: 30000, bought: 2445, paid: 0.19016790 (0.06338930), avg: 0.00007778
# buying: 30000, bought: 2465, paid: 0.19141850 (0.06380617), avg: 0.00007765
# buying: 30000, bought: 3465, paid: 0.25393850 (0.08464617), avg: 0.00007329
# buying: 30000, bought: 4116, paid: 0.27027860 (0.09009287), avg: 0.00006567
# buying: 30000, bought: 5116, paid: 0.29327860 (0.09775953), avg: 0.00005733
# buying: 30000, bought: 15116, paid: 0.40437860 (0.13479287), avg: 0.00002675
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
10000 shares will be bought for 0.18986367 BTC (avg: 0.00001899 BTC/share)
# buying: 30000, bought: 10, paid: 0.00078010 (0.00026003), avg: 0.00007801
# buying: 30000, bought: 1510, paid: 0.11778010 (0.03926003), avg: 0.00007800
# buying: 30000, bought: 1540, paid: 0.12010540 (0.04003513), avg: 0.00007799
# buying: 30000, bought: 2415, paid: 0.18791790 (0.06263930), avg: 0.00007781
# buying: 30000, bought: 2445, paid: 0.19016790 (0.06338930), avg: 0.00007778
# buying: 30000, bought: 2465, paid: 0.19141850 (0.06380617), avg: 0.00007765
# buying: 30000, bought: 3465, paid: 0.25393850 (0.08464617), avg: 0.00007329
# buying: 30000, bought: 4116, paid: 0.27027860 (0.09009287), avg: 0.00006567
# buying: 30000, bought: 5116, paid: 0.29327860 (0.09775953), avg: 0.00005733
# buying: 30000, bought: 15116, paid: 0.40437860 (0.13479287), avg: 0.00002675
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
# buying: 30000, bought: 30000, paid: 0.56959100 (0.18986367), avg: 0.00001899
10000 shares will be bought for 0.18986367 BTC (avg: 0.00001899 BTC/share)
(I have the same offer for btcQuick shares here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328919.0 )
trepex
November 11, 2013, 10:01:47 AM
nope
November 11, 2013, 02:07:51 AM
can we transfer shares to another exchange platform?
November 10, 2013, 08:35:24 AM
November 08, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
we're waiting!
November 08, 2013, 12:40:55 AM
Agreed. Bunch of shares just rotting on Bitfunder right now... 
November 07, 2013, 11:57:43 PM
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