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Topic: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process - page 3. (Read 292138 times)

newbie
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We do not forget. We do not forgive.
Eat your own shit Jon Montroll!
Suck your dirty ass Montroll! Criminal and fraudster!
You'll be fucked until your last day. 
Expect us!

Watch out Danny. Suck the devil's cock!
Expect us!

Watch out Graet. Suck Satan's dick!
Expect us!
hero member
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I'm just writing to say that, even though I haven't been posting, I haven't forgotten about this, and I'm still very keen on finding a solution and helping where I can. I'm sure there are many others out there that are keeping an eye on this thread for any developments.

The only news I've seen is that Jon was arrested, but I didn't see why. I also don't know where he is ATM or if anyone has communicated with him.

Does anyone have more up to date / complete info, or any ideas?


Any update on Graet ?
full member
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I'm just writing to say that, even though I haven't been posting, I haven't forgotten about this, and I'm still very keen on finding a solution and helping where I can. I'm sure there are many others out there that are keeping an eye on this thread for any developments.

The only news I've seen is that Jon was arrested, but I didn't see why. I also don't know where he is ATM or if anyone has communicated with him.

Does anyone have more up to date / complete info, or any ideas?

legendary
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If ukyo was messing around with tradings on mtgox(witch could explain his claims about the funds currently(back in 2013-14) not beeing avaliable) he should now get back about twice as many coins as he had on mtgox(if the bitcoinprice stays at the currently low level in september when the mtgox funds will be payed back to people as it looks like the refund amount is locked at a fixed usd per coin amount that is way higher than current price. He should then not have any problems paying back the loan 2 000 btc*1.32 = 2 640btc and the other maby 8 000 btc that he owes people from weexchange. Hopefully the great loan will also get solved at that time.

Why would he do that? It's been a year and half and he has faced no negative repercussions for stealing/losing all your coins, why would he give a shit now?

Also, this fell apart way before gox did.
thy
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If ukyo was messing around with tradings on mtgox(witch could explain his claims about the funds currently(back in 2013-14) not beeing avaliable) he should now get back about twice as many coins as he had on mtgox(if the bitcoinprice stays at the currently low level in september when the mtgox funds will be payed back to people as it looks like the refund amount is locked at a fixed usd per coin amount that is way higher than current price. He should then not have any problems paying back the loan 2 000 btc*1.32 = 2 640btc and the other maby 8 000 btc that he owes people from weexchange. Hopefully the great loan will also get solved at that time.
legendary
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Did he finally file for bankruptcy?

why would he do that when he got off scot free?
full member
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Did he finally file for bankruptcy?
hero member
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Unlimited Free Crypto
Putting your head in the sand and hide isent the solution Ukyo, come back to the forum as soon as possible and explain whats going on and make the promised payments.

the reason I believe he is going to be murdered and his family hurt really badly in the future is because he did not even give an explanation.
newbie
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Putting your head in the sand and hide isent the solution Ukyo, come back to the forum as soon as possible and explain whats going on and make the promised payments.
newbie
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We do not forget. We do not forgive.
Eat shit Jon Montroll! Criminal and fraudster!

Watch out Danny! We are legion. Expect us!
member
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Mine hard!
I didn't get past page before I added a tally mark to my scam count. I'm tracking as many as I can. This is #33
legendary
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Deals done in the background, maybe??  
Well I haven't seen/heard anything (unfortunately) and he still owes me 100+  Undecided

I still believe that the following IRC-log from December 17, 2013, is the best clue we have to what happened:
Code: (#weex)
been fighting gox to coorolate things
to find out exactly whats what on those orders
er..
>,>
<,<
i am going to shut up now.
It was written out of context and clearly in the wrong chat.
Trading on Gox was always a thing that i thought was possible that ukyo and Great could have been playing around with but would they really have been doing that unless ukyo were garanteed by the the ceo, his friend that there they would get there funds out when gox went under, it was very obvious that things werent as it should on gox for a very long time and even if the gox mess was the big reason why ukyo cant access a big part of his funds, how would that explain his claims that he cant talk about it, it just dosent add up i think.
Do we know what specific orders he is referring to, in that chat?
I think he had received official notification from the powers-that-be, in December. Think thats why he 'cant talk about it'. Considering Burnside has settled his legal battle, we can assume Jon has as well......unless the powers-that-be are further investigating why/how he 'lost' 1000's of peeps coins......they bloody well should be! 
thy
hero member
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Deals done in the background, maybe??  
Well I haven't seen/heard anything (unfortunately) and he still owes me 100+  Undecided

I still believe that the following IRC-log from December 17, 2013, is the best clue we have to what happened:
Code: (#weex)
been fighting gox to coorolate things
to find out exactly whats what on those orders
er..
>,>
<,<
i am going to shut up now.
It was written out of context and clearly in the wrong chat.
Trading on Gox was always a thing that i thought was possible that ukyo and Great could have been playing around with but would they really have been doing that unless ukyo were garanteed by the the ceo, his friend that there they would get there funds out when gox went under, it was very obvious that things werent as it should on gox for a very long time and even if the gox mess was the big reason why ukyo cant access a big part of his funds, how would that explain his claims that he cant talk about it, it just dosent add up i think.
hero member
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Is he still alive?
member
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Merit: 10
Deals done in the background, maybe??  
Well I haven't seen/heard anything (unfortunately) and he still owes me 100+  Undecided

I still believe that the following IRC-log from December 17, 2013, is the best clue we have to what happened:
Code: (#weex)
been fighting gox to coorolate things
to find out exactly whats what on those orders
er..
>,>
<,<
i am going to shut up now.
It was written out of context and clearly in the wrong chat.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1000

And Jon at some point worked together with Danny "Neo&Bee" Brewster

Danny has been up to his old tricks again ! .....

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-30932424
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
the Ukyo's expressions about lost btc's were nearly same as Karpeles' ones. if the theory of Karpeles' involvement into SR is correct and btcs are confiscated by US gov then we still have the chance to get them back.

Funny you mention that, because Jon and Mark are/were good friends, and have spent much time in each others company.

Go figure.

And Jon at some point worked together with Danny "Neo&Bee" Brewster

Perhaps they held monthly kaffe klatches where the met to share laughs and new successful techniques in bilking the bitcoin faithful.
hero member
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the Ukyo's expressions about lost btc's were nearly same as Karpeles' ones. if the theory of Karpeles' involvement into SR is correct and btcs are confiscated by US gov then we still have the chance to get them back.

Funny you mention that, because Jon and Mark are/were good friends, and have spent much time in each others company.

Go figure.

And Jon at some point worked together with Danny "Neo&Bee" Brewster
sr. member
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Merit: 250
An SEC or criminal investigation would be great to see here. Has anyone filed a complaint to the SEC? I have not followed the situation that closely but I found this link:

http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml

I see that quite a bit of information is known about Ukyo and I know there were a few people affected by this scam who kept close tabs on the entire situation. If GAW/Paycoin can attract an SEC investigation, then this debacle definitely should.
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