[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process - page 65.

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Quote from: blastbob on December 13, 2013, 11:11:39 AM

Would be stupid to pay without consulting the support tickets. The address used 1.5+ month ago might not be valid anymore..

I agree. But if you read Danny's posts he said that "the coins will be available to the users" and "the process of receiving them" will be ready today.

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Quote from: WeexUser on December 13, 2013, 10:56:13 AM

Quote from: tomywomy on December 13, 2013, 10:43:09 AM

Well, it's almost 6:00pm in Cyprus and we've had no update and no coins paid. So I guess the obvious conclusion is that we should be patient for another week and assume that Danny and Ukyo continue to do their best and we should be thanking them for their efforts.

Again, Danny said the update would be Friday night.

It's fairly obvious that "by Friday" he meant 23:59 UTC-11, so everyone should relax he still has plenty of time.... Cool

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Would be stupid to pay without consulting the support tickets. The address used 1.5+ month ago might not be valid anymore..

So personally i doubt anything happens today.

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Quote from: tomywomy on December 13, 2013, 10:43:09 AM

Well, it's almost 6:00pm in Cyprus and we've had no update and no coins paid. So I guess the obvious conclusion is that we should be patient for another week and assume that Danny and Ukyo continue to do their best and we should be thanking them for their efforts.

Again, Danny said the update would be Friday night.

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on December 13, 2013, 10:53:05 AM

Quote from: tomywomy on December 13, 2013, 10:43:09 AM

Well, it's almost 6:00pm in Cyprus and we've had no update and no coins paid. So I guess the obvious conclusion is that we should be patient for another week and assume that Danny and Ukyo continue to do their best and we should be thanking them for their efforts.

It's almost 5pm there.

Almost 6pm. UTC +2.

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Quote from: tomywomy on December 13, 2013, 10:43:09 AM

Well, it's almost 6:00pm in Cyprus and we've had no update and no coins paid. So I guess the obvious conclusion is that we should be patient for another week and assume that Danny and Ukyo continue to do their best and we should be thanking them for their efforts.

It's almost 5pm there.

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Well, it's almost 6:00pm in Cyprus and we've had no update and no coins paid. So I guess the obvious conclusion is that we should be patient for another week and assume that Danny and Ukyo continue to do their best and we should be thanking them for their efforts.

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Quote from: WeexUser on December 13, 2013, 08:51:44 AM

Quote from: dave111223 on December 13, 2013, 08:41:51 AM

Quote from: cryptocyprus on December 07, 2013, 06:20:00 AM

There is a tiny amount of BTC in the wallets, however by this Friday there will be access to these coins, distributed on a proportional basis.

Sooo Friday's here...anyone get "access" to any coins yet?

Danny said Friday night (probably EU night).

I am curious how much % it will be...

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Quote from: dave111223 on December 13, 2013, 08:41:51 AM

Quote from: cryptocyprus on December 07, 2013, 06:20:00 AM

There is a tiny amount of BTC in the wallets, however by this Friday there will be access to these coins, distributed on a proportional basis.

Sooo Friday's here...anyone get "access" to any coins yet?

Danny said Friday night (probably EU night).

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Quote from: cryptocyprus on December 07, 2013, 06:20:00 AM

There is a tiny amount of BTC in the wallets, however by this Friday there will be access to these coins, distributed on a proportional basis.

Sooo Friday's here...anyone get "access" to any coins yet?

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfundercom-has-been-hacked-and-it-is-bitfunders-fault-251051

I'm not arguing that he has made no backups, I have no idea, but I don't see it as so unlikely.

Hm... that level of security is indeed a bit strange. At least he changed the code... letting security pros do it is a good choice i think.

But i think that can be an error... when coding you never are able to think about every possibility and especially when you never thought about such vulnerabilities you wont recognize them. Forgetting backups is way more fundamental... so i think that didnt happen. I mean... even when he used a rented server... there is good chance the serverprovider did backups on its own.

Anyway... if he really starts to claim the private keys are gone or the bitcoins somehow vanished from their addresses... i cant believe him.

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Quote from: Bananery on December 12, 2013, 05:53:33 AM

Ukyo probably fucked up and made a huge mistake when tried to fix bitcoind. At some point he had all the private keys of all the wallets.

He should've started an operation to fix bitcoind with help from a team of professionals, but being an idiot he is, he tried to fix it by himself, which is extremely hard. So he either destroyed or lost all the data in the process, or it was leaked and someone stole the bitcoins.

Or perhaps he hired a "professional" to help and the "professional" stole all the coins once they had access to the wallet and saw those millions sitting there.

Many things are possible.

Everyone is just guessing until more information is released.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfundercom-has-been-hacked-and-it-is-bitfunders-fault-251051

I'm not arguing that he has made no backups, I have no idea, but I don't see it as so unlikely.

Reading through that thread I saw my coins fading away. I knew that Ukyo was highly incompetent, but especially his comments on this thread reveal a whole new level.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on December 12, 2013, 09:38:45 AM

He cant be that dumb.

Of course he can. This is Bitcoin. (And there are many examples of BitFunder being poorly coded already.)

If he claimed he ran an exchange and weexchange, he is a coder since years and he isnt really a noob to the net and pc's, and he didnt made backups... then i think its a clear lie. If he really didnt do it then i would strongly assume it was on purpose.

He really has to come with some infos now.

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Quote from: dave111223 on December 12, 2013, 08:40:53 AM

Quote from: Bananery on December 12, 2013, 05:53:33 AM

Ukyo probably fucked up and made a huge mistake when tried to fix bitcoind. At some point he had all the private keys of all the wallets.

He should've started an operation to fix bitcoind with help from a team of professionals, but being an idiot he is, he tried to fix it by himself, which is extremely hard. So he either destroyed or lost all the data in the process, or it was leaked and someone stole the bitcoins.

Even the most stupid retard would keep several backups of the wallet file or private keys (or use a deterministic wallet).

I can't believe he's so dumb that his entire exchange used a single wallet with no backup...there's simply no way he could be that dumb and still have been able to code all the systems.

Plus if this were the case he would easily be able to provide proof of the locked/lost coins; and they would never move after the date the wallet was lost.

This!

He cant be that dumb. And even when the wallet cant work anymore... the private keys cant vanish. The same goes for the coins. They cant possibly vanish magically from the addresses.

If he really wants to make up for it... i take it as earning them and pay us back from his private coins... then we wont see much back.

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Quote from: Bananery on December 12, 2013, 05:53:33 AM

Ukyo probably fucked up and made a huge mistake when tried to fix bitcoind. At some point he had all the private keys of all the wallets.

He should've started an operation to fix bitcoind with help from a team of professionals, but being an idiot he is, he tried to fix it by himself, which is extremely hard. So he either destroyed or lost all the data in the process, or it was leaked and someone stole the bitcoins.

Even the most stupid retard would keep several backups of the wallet file or private keys (or use a deterministic wallet).

I can't believe he's so dumb that his entire exchange used a single wallet with no backup...there's simply no way he could be that dumb and still have been able to code all the systems.

Plus if this were the case he would easily be able to provide proof of the locked/lost coins; and they would never move after the date the wallet was lost.

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Quote from: stonehoo on December 12, 2013, 07:01:59 AM

So, finally, after 1 month waiting, our bitcoins are all gone....... ukyo, what would you to make it up?

It requires a lot of work to make up $2 million. Especially in Cyprus where per capita GDP is a mere US$23K.

Not sure how Danny thinks he can be helpful in getting us back money that isn't there.

Also not sure why we can't get a full explanation now from Ukyo as to what happened along with some proof that his explanation is true if this was an honest mistake (either technical or mismanagement). The silence only stinks of fraud and implicates Danny as one who has aided and abetted the the perpetrator of the fraud.

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So, finally, after 1 month waiting, our bitcoins are all gone....... ukyo, what would you to make it up?

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Ukyo is with me now, he is saying for instructions on how to verify click where it says "not verified", or click on "profile" and then "identification" to upload the needed documents to process an AUD withdraw.

My status is "verified" - I have uploaded ID previously and it says:"You currently have 115 of 100 minimal points to gain Verified status."

But then when I go to withdraw AUD it says "No verified AUD bank accounts." even though there is a bank account registered and I am verified (and have deposited from that bank account).

Is there any point putting in a support ticket - or will it be ignored like all the BTC related ones?

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Ukyo probably fucked up and made a huge mistake when tried to fix bitcoind. At some point he had all the private keys of all the wallets.

He should've started an operation to fix bitcoind with help from a team of professionals, but being an idiot he is, he tried to fix it by himself, which is extremely hard. So he either destroyed or lost all the data in the process, or it was leaked and someone stole the bitcoins.

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