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Topic: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process - page 71. (Read 291897 times)

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
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If people don't want me to help towards getting their coins back just say, lawyer up, go for it yourselves (Good luck)...

*<$10K?  Small Claims Court.  No lawyer required.


Judy does arbitrage. Even better, I think the producers pay the awards!

Sure would be fun for a bitcoin case to come up Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Jon (Ukyo) is now here with me in Cyprus to ensure this problem is resolved for everyone involved.
...
If you promise to support my family, following me making that information public at this very moment in time.
You will have to excuse the fact that I value my freedom.

I'm not tring to be hostile here, but this reads to me as...
"Uyko had fled the country"
&
"I may be an accomplice to a crime"

This whole thing is really starting to give me the shits. It's like everyone out there is attempting to take away all the Bitcoin I was going to use for IVF.

*sighs*

If I go through everything you have ever written I could make all kinds of assumptions when taking selected words.

You should be a journalist.

If people don't want me to help towards getting their coins back just say, lawyer up, go for it yourselves (Good luck) and I will reduce my targets by their amounts and continue towards getting everyone that is happy it their coins back. In fact it will make my life much easier.






A snarky response to someone concerned about the loss of their money.

Funny how quickly the new banksters become exactly like the old banksters.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
The bitcoins are simply not there anymore, ...

So how does this fit together with "the wallet file is too big and due to technical issues payouts are not possible"?

Ukyo is clearly Neo&Bee's slave now. He will most likely work for free for years to come, receive only bread and water as food and give them his code for free to repay his debt.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1024
The bitcoins are simply not there anymore, ...

So how does this fit together with "the wallet file is too big and due to technical issues payouts are not possible"?
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1000
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If people don't want me to help towards getting their coins back just say, lawyer up, go for it yourselves (Good luck)...

*<$10K?  Small Claims Court.  No lawyer required.


'BALONY'
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Hey Ukyo,
come to belgium. We have a Bitcoin meet in Ghent next saturday.
Have a beer with me (my treat!) and pay me 0.42 BTC and I am happy!

 Grin    Cheesy    Smiley    Undecided    Lips sealed    Sad    Angry    Cry
The line above shows my mood when I was typing this message.

Cryptocyprus should kick Ukyo in the balls and post it on youtube. It would at least offer shareholders some relief.

Some old school catholic flagellation could also work.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
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If people don't want me to help towards getting their coins back just say, lawyer up, go for it yourselves (Good luck)...

*<$10K?  Small Claims Court.  No lawyer required.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1000
The bitcoins are simply not there anymore, we are continuing to work through the implementation of a number of solutions to correct the issue.

Where have they gone ? Can you answere this question or will you ignore it?

It cannot be ignored, but it cannot be answered at this time, also. For now, just read between the lines and see if you judged right in the weeks to come.

Cant think of many examples where someone has so overtly publicised the fact, that he is prepared to help people get missing funds back, and thereby put his own reputation on the line. Sure, there may or may not be a vested interest and/or parallel agenda in play here, but lets be thankful for having someone who's shrewd enough to see a win win opportunity, and someone with the bollocks to carry it out.

We have a date when funds should start moving. Thats a step closer, right?

  

 

 
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Hey Ukyo,
come to belgium. We have a Bitcoin meet in Ghent next saturday.
Have a beer with me (my treat!) and pay me 0.42 BTC and I am happy!

 Grin    Cheesy    Smiley    Undecided    Lips sealed    Sad    Angry    Cry
The line above shows my mood when I was typing this message.

Cryptocyprus should kick Ukyo in the balls and post it on youtube. It would at least offer shareholders some relief.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
Want privacy? Use Monero!
Hey Ukyo,
come to belgium. We have a Bitcoin meet in Ghent next saturday.
Have a beer with me (my treat!) and pay me 0.42 BTC and I am happy!

 Grin    Cheesy    Smiley    Undecided    Lips sealed    Sad    Angry    Cry
The line above shows my mood when I was typing this message.
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 250
The bitcoins are simply not there anymore, we are continuing to work through the implementation of a number of solutions to correct the issue.

Where have they gone ? Can you answere this question or will you ignore it?

I cannot answer it at this exact moment in time. But that will change.
hero member
Activity: 601
Merit: 503
The bitcoins are simply not there anymore, we are continuing to work through the implementation of a number of solutions to correct the issue.

Where have they gone ? Can you answere this question or will you ignore it?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Jon (Ukyo) is now here with me in Cyprus to ensure this problem is resolved for everyone involved.
...
If you promise to support my family, following me making that information public at this very moment in time.
You will have to excuse the fact that I value my freedom.

I'm not tring to be hostile here, but this reads to me as...
"Uyko had fled the country"
&
"I may be an accomplice to a crime"

This whole thing is really starting to give me the shits. It's like everyone out there is attempting to take away all the Bitcoin I was going to use for IVF.

*sighs*

He's not safe there. http://www.mcnabbassociates.com/Cyprus%20International%20Extradition%20Treaty%20with%20the%20United%20States.pdf
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 250
Jon (Ukyo) is now here with me in Cyprus to ensure this problem is resolved for everyone involved.
...
If you promise to support my family, following me making that information public at this very moment in time.
You will have to excuse the fact that I value my freedom.

I'm not tring to be hostile here, but this reads to me as...
"Uyko had fled the country"
&
"I may be an accomplice to a crime"

This whole thing is really starting to give me the shits. It's like everyone out there is attempting to take away all the Bitcoin I was going to use for IVF.

*sighs*

If I go through everything you have ever written I could make all kinds of assumptions when taking selected words.

You should be a journalist.

If people don't want me to help towards getting their coins back just say, lawyer up, go for it yourselves (Good luck) and I will reduce my targets by their amounts and continue towards getting everyone that is happy it their coins back. In fact it will make my life much easier.



hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 532
Former curator of The Bitcoin Museum
Jon (Ukyo) is now here with me in Cyprus to ensure this problem is resolved for everyone involved.
...
If you promise to support my family, following me making that information public at this very moment in time.
You will have to excuse the fact that I value my freedom.

I'm not tring to be hostile here, but this reads to me as...
"Uyko had fled the country"
&
"I may be an accomplice to a crime"

This whole thing is really starting to give me the shits. It's like everyone out there is attempting to take away all the Bitcoin I was going to use for IVF.

*sighs*
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1001
For those of you complaining about not getting our coins back, please read the post. The coins are not there for some reason, whatever that is,

They said the coins are not there.  I then showed that at least some coins were still "there" and then they changed to say that there were a tiny amount of coins still in their wallets....

So even the miniscule amount of info that cryptocyprus has provided has already been proven inaccurate.

I am assuming that I'm not the only person that can prove coins deposited are still at the deposit address, as such it is probably a considerable amount that they still have in their wallets and certainty not "all gone" as they initially claimed.
full member
Activity: 187
Merit: 109
Converting information into power since 1867
Are you blaming government intervention also for inputs.io, labcoin, pirateat40, and countless other scams?

Not at all, I'm just saying you can't necessarily blame lack of government regulation for their existence either. Government regulation usually ends up fighting small scams and enabling large scams.


ITs been crystal clear from day 1 that these bitcoin security issuers and exchanges are violating relevant laws in just about any country on earth.

Of course, but that alone doesn't make them scams. They could violate every law imaginable and still benefit their investors, as some Bitcoin securities have. Laws made by governments usually benefit governments, not people.


Now you may object to laws that require security issuers to register their shares, make certain disclosures etc, you may think its a good idea that an anonymous entity operating from a phone-boot in Nigeria can legally operate a money exchange and hold millions of dollars of other people's coins with no verification, oversight or accountability, but then you should protest those laws instead of blaming government for enforcing them when someone knowingly violates them.

Personally, I think bitcoin asset market is doing a very good job proving why there is a need for at least some sensible regulation and oversight, just leaving it up to the free market makes it a paradise for scammers and a useless minefield for investors.

I don't necessarily trust Wall Street bankers and their good friends in the Treasury department to do a better job than an anonymous entity operating from a phone booth in Nigeria. And yes, I do protest these laws, as well as blame the government for enforcing them the way it does. But the point is, Bitcoin almost had a chance to develop a new system of distributed regulation, in which people act in their own self-interest and yet the community as a whole judges and rejects those who try to act unfairly. The way we currently do this clearly doesn't work that well, as proven by the high trust rating TradeFortress had until very recently. But it's a work in progress, and the last thing we need is government intervention.
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 250
So do you believe that we get our coins back this year ?

The process of receiving them will start this week.

Does this include the coins from ukyo.loan too? Or just the coins stuck on bitfunder and weexchange?
I'm owed nearly 250 btc from ukyo.loan. I think I might actually be ukyo's largest creditor.

I am helping him solve that issue too
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
So do you believe that we get our coins back this year ?

The process of receiving them will start this week.

Does this include the coins from ukyo.loan too? Or just the coins stuck on bitfunder and weexchange?
I'm owed nearly 250 btc from ukyo.loan. I think I might actually be ukyo's largest creditor.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Within 12 months we'll have far more secure ways to store Bitcoins, including with third parties. It's definitely needed. Neo themselves will be doing it in Cyprus, someone else is doing it in the US, we have Trezor coming, and probably numerous other options. Knybe, in fact bitcoin can be extremely secure but getting multi sig into an easily usable format has proved tricky and there hasn't been enough incentive to do it until recently.

As for regulation, that would maybe help but it would also have prevented many of these opportunities in the first place. Now, however, we should have exchanges regulated in some form for customer protection purposes. Not bitcoin itself, but exchanges or places hosting 3rd party wallets.

For those of you complaining about not getting our coins back, please read the post. The coins are not there for some reason, whatever that is, but neo have stepped in the find a way to get our coins back. Neo did not cause the problem, they are offering a solution which involves fully refunding everyone if it all works out.

So if you would prefer that neo don't help or you are going to give them grief then I'd have to question how much you really have at stake and/or your common sense. Or if you are just trolling.
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