Topic: Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly" - page 40. (Read 108588 times)
People are talking. There's been a thread in Group Buys for a week and some asking if there's interest. Folks need to go tell 'em there's interest and maybe someone will start moving.
Another good hope is a group gets together, works out a large chip order and gets a board designed around 'em that can be manufactured as soon as chips arrive.
I would fully support your efforts in funding such a venture if you were to build a bitfury miner sidehack
That would be a heck of a deal if you could get one going. Would love to have a full size GekkoScience miner from sidehack powered by these new chips.
Would be great if funding got behind him, and gave possibility for regular people to buy miners.
Another good hope is a group gets together, works out a large chip order and gets a board designed around 'em that can be manufactured as soon as chips arrive.
I would fully support your efforts in funding such a venture if you were to build a bitfury miner sidehack
Another good hope is a group gets together, works out a large chip order and gets a board designed around 'em that can be manufactured as soon as chips arrive.
and at least BitFury or their integrators haven't taken the pre-order and give us oodles of cash for our fabulous miners NOW! route with the general public. At least none that I know of... 
Another good hope is a group gets together, works out a large chip order and gets a board designed around 'em that can be manufactured as soon as chips arrive.
And I will be more than happy if you were in this group
Another good hope is a group gets together, works out a large chip order and gets a board designed around 'em that can be manufactured as soon as chips arrive.
With another 20% increase in difficulty expected will the new miners be outdated before they even come to market for the home miners?
Not these miners at .06 or so they have a LOT of wiggle room. Considering current is .30 or so we are talking big efficiency jump. So we will see what will happen.
And if anyone even sells these to home miner is another thing. We don't know about re sellers, and a re seller would need to spend a lot to buy from Bitfury. I think our best hope is a huge mine buys a ton and sells some for a instant profit to customers.
With another 20% increase in difficulty expected will the new miners be outdated before they even come to market for the home miners?
I don't understand what info you're basing your opinionated statements on. We have seen great interest from integrators to our 16nm chip and are confident mining devices based on our chip will be available to public very soon. Possibly as early as end of march.
Good stuff, where will these "official" Bitfury integrators be posted?
They are still building relationships now, I suspect you will see real movement in the coming weeks from some integrators..
Personally I don't believe that we will see any of the miners on sell for the open market. Anyone with a half of brain will simply buy the chips and mine for themselves. Their latest announcement is pure PR bullshit and lies, but we will not see them in the wild as it should happen. Thanks Bitfury for the constant stream of lies! Whatever brings the money, right?
Meh "Whatever brings the money" is right - and that goes for all ASIC manufacturers! I'm not sure why everyone is bitchy about BitFury's stance on this, even BitMain proved with the S7 its all about the money! I don't think we need another "S7 launch"-priced ASIC. Ripoff the customers by severely overpricing in the beginning, then drop the price like a rock to move even more volume when you cause difficulty to skyrocket.
Really its been this way since Avalon launched the first ASIC. Even with jumping through all the manufacturer/group buy hoops to obtain ASICs at the lowest possible price for the BCT forum members, actually obtaining ROI on an ASIC is a crapshoot even when you do the homework! What is this, fool me 37 times? You pretty much need to be in bed with the ASIC supplier to have any real chance!
I don't understand what info you're basing your opinionated statements on. We have seen great interest from integrators to our 16nm chip and are confident mining devices based on our chip will be available to public very soon. Possibly as early as end of march.
Good stuff, where will these "official" Bitfury integrators be posted?
In the same way that people try and assess failure rates via a forum, no. Bitfury, the $X00,000,000 multinational corporation has nothing to prove to you.
Not to me, but to everyone else that read their announcement.
I don't understand what info you're basing your opinionated statements on. We have seen great interest from integrators to our 16nm chip and are confident mining devices based on our chip will be available to public very soon. Possibly as early as end of march.
I don't have any info. It's just my educated guess. I can't wait to be wrong!
Whatever brings the money, right?
Holy shit can you stop shilling already. Its very clear from 3rd party reports that they are selling to the [rich] public and we will see 16nm based devices in the wild.
Let's agree on a number of devices to be available to the open market in order to define "in the wild". I think that if we see less than 1k devices we can't call them "in the wild". Agree on this number?
I don't understand what info you're basing your opinionated statements on. We have seen great interest from integrators to our 16nm chip and are confident mining devices based on our chip will be available to public very soon. Possibly as early as end of march.
Whatever brings the money, right?
Holy shit can you stop shilling already. Its very clear from 3rd party reports that they are selling to the [rich] public and we will see 16nm based devices in the wild.
Let's agree on a number of devices to be available to the open market in order to define "in the wild". I think that if we see less than 1k devices we can't call them "in the wild". Agree on this number?
In the same way that people try and assess failure rates via a forum, no. Bitfury, the $X00,000,000 multinational corporation has nothing to prove to you.
Whatever brings the money, right?
Holy shit can you stop shilling already. Its very clear from 3rd party reports that they are selling to the [rich] public and we will see 16nm based devices in the wild.
Let's agree on a number of devices to be available to the open market in order to define "in the wild". I think that if we see less than 1k devices we can't call them "in the wild". Agree on this number?
So we have the specifications ? That's true that 2 Th/s for a 220W consumption is really really interesting. If I buy or not will depend on the price.
Personally I don't believe that we will see any of the miners on sell for the open market. Anyone with a half of brain will simply buy the chips and mine for themselves. Their latest announcement is pure PR bullshit and lies, but we will not see them in the wild as it should happen. Thanks Bitfury for the constant stream of lies! Whatever brings the money, right?
Holy shit can you stop shilling already. Its very clear from 3rd party reports that they are selling to the [rich] public and we will see 16nm based devices in the wild.
please be so fair and quote all.
yes, but then they are overpriced. count one and one together and you will understand how the future will look like. every link in the chain will add a margin for themselves.
this is how the old world works but Bitcoin (or people behind) claimed in the beginning they will change the world. NOTHING HAS CHANGED AT ALL!
Whatever brings the money, right?
Holy shit can you stop shilling already. Its very clear from 3rd party reports that they are selling to the [rich] public and we will see 16nm based devices in the wild.
So we have the specifications ? That's true that 2 Th/s for a 220W consumption is really really interesting. If I buy or not will depend on the price.
Personally I don't believe that we will see any of the miners on sell for the open market. Anyone with a half of brain will simply buy the chips and mine for themselves. Their latest announcement is pure PR bullshit and lies, but we will not see them in the wild as it should happen. Thanks Bitfury for the constant stream of lies! Whatever brings the money, right?
I am under NDA .
So just take my word for it.
So just take my word for it.
How much do you think a board would cost to run 20 chips per board? Subtract the price of the BF chips so I am just talking about the board.
20 chips should run 2TH at .11w/gh so 220W per board. How big would the board need to be? 10" X 10"?
Qty 500 boards.
I am just curious as to the cost of the board in qty.
I don't have a ballpark price on hand but that's not too far from what we're looking to build. A pair of my boards would do 2TH/220W in approximately 6"x9" of PCB and screw onto an S1 heatsink.
If you make one of those 2T at 220w I will buy that for sure.
So we have the specifications ? That's true that 2 Th/s for a 220W consumption is really really interesting. If I buy or not will depend on the price.
Between I got a mail from bitfury.
Have a look.
Have a look.
Thanks for making this available! It's unfortunate he doesn't indicate how many chips you get if you put up $1M.
Do you get 100, 1000, 500,000, what?
Nice way of saying "Don't talk to us unless you have serious money". Not a surprise.....
Punin himself stated exactly that in the russian part of the forum.
The picture is a good read on it. Everyone would LOVE to get their hands on these miners. But that picture of email basically was a really nice way of saying if you don't have a million to spend your wasting your time.
Someone could make a bundle buying in huge bulk and reselling miners at a markup. Not sure if anyone will do this, but we can hope. Or hope some other way comes up to buy them.
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