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Quote from: bb on August 09, 2011, 01:57:16 PM

Quote from: c00w on August 09, 2011, 01:49:36 PM

If we could get deepbit to change from proportional to empps or something similar it would be amazing. I'm sure they will just degrade their LP responses though...

Wait, what? I thought deepbit was on PPS. (No matter I don't get how you hop them. ^^)

So if they are on prop, why didn't we hop before? No stats?

delayed stats.

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Quote from: c00w on August 09, 2011, 01:49:36 PM

If we could get deepbit to change from proportional to empps or something similar it would be amazing. I'm sure they will just degrade their LP responses though...

Wait, what? I thought deepbit was on PPS. (No matter I don't get how you hop them. ^^)

So if they are on prop, why didn't we hop before? No stats?

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Quote from: ewibit on August 09, 2011, 01:09:31 PM

Quote from: dribbits on August 09, 2011, 01:01:12 PM

Ive got bitHopper running on my main machine with 2 GPUS, and 10 more miners from other machines that connect to it. Including browsing the internet I have used 61.7MB down and 25.6MB up today. Do you have some other software doing auto updates or something in the background?

ok, I think, the first important step will be the miner on the second PC connect to this PC's bithopper...
(because now it is running here 2 times)
how can I do this (if the ip changes every reboot)?

If your talking about your LAN, you could always set a static ip or setup a dhcp reservation. I just use hostnames, works good so far.

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Quote from: paraipan on August 09, 2011, 01:50:59 PM

Quote from: jkminkov on August 09, 2011, 01:47:44 PM

Quote from: EskimoBob on August 09, 2011, 01:29:39 PM

Deepbit is evil!

Help the small guys to grow and take something away from those top 3 pools!
Do I really have to say: "Fuck globalisation, fuck central an all controlling [ADD YOUR PICK] and blaa blaa blaa? Do I?
Kiss

OK, I put penalty 2.00

hopping deepbit will chicken out their miners Cheesy

if they don't take measures...

I think Deepbit.net is so big, It doesn't even notice us, unless they read on the forum Tongue

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Quote from: jkminkov on August 09, 2011, 01:47:44 PM

Quote from: EskimoBob on August 09, 2011, 01:29:39 PM

Deepbit is evil!

Help the small guys to grow and take something away from those top 3 pools!
Do I really have to say: "Fuck globalisation, fuck central an all controlling [ADD YOUR PICK] and blaa blaa blaa? Do I?
Kiss

OK, I put penalty 2.00

hopping deepbit will chicken out their miners Cheesy

if they don't take measures...

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If we could get deepbit to change from proportional to empps or something similar it would be amazing. I'm sure they will just degrade their LP responses though...

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Quote from: EskimoBob on August 09, 2011, 01:29:39 PM

Deepbit is evil!

Help the small guys to grow and take something away from those top 3 pools!
Do I really have to say: "Fuck globalisation, fuck central an all controlling [ADD YOUR PICK] and blaa blaa blaa? Do I?
Kiss

OK, I put penalty 2.00

hopping deepbit will chicken out their miners Cheesy

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Quote from: GenTarkin on August 09, 2011, 01:41:56 PM

EDIT: couple mins later, just saw another LP hit and went over to deepbit...mining there again. Is there a bug thats causing deepbit to get mined on every LP? ... it seems thats the behaviour even when the LP says someone else owns the block.

I wait for the stats Tongue

They are slow at deebit...

Update: unless Deepbit is very lucky right now, I guess there's a problem with the LP hop to Deepbit... It only mines at Deepbit now...

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Ugh finally mining on deepbit.

Feels good man. feels good.

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Is slush's website down for everyone?

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Quote from: MaGNeT on August 09, 2011, 01:27:30 PM

Deepbit:

09.08 18:21:52 0h 20m 203 1586080 0.00620744

That's for 2950Mhash/s, Default scheduler and threshold at 60% (.6)

hrm....WTF?!?!? my stats on deepbit say 000 shares for me on that exact round! Although, I know I hopped over to deepbit more than an hour ago. I am just using default scheduler, default threshold.
Deepbit was confirming I submitted shares during that time period ( I watched my worker on their site)
I mine at about 366mh/s
ideas?

EDIT: couple mins later, just saw another LP hit and went over to deepbit...mining there again. Is there a bug thats causing deepbit to get mined on every LP? ... it seems thats the behaviour even when the LP says someone else owns the block.

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Ref: original Raulo paper on pool hopping - link

edit: detailed analysis of pooled mining reward system

edit2:
just happened to see this table in Meni's paper, it just reinforces my thoughts on amplification factor (m = number of pools)

Code:

Table B.1: Amplication factor of pool-hopping, as a function of the number of proportional
pools.
m|with fallback|without fallback
1 1.28149 |1
2 1.5159 |1.38629
3 1.71404 |1.64792
4 1.88393 |1.84839
5 2.03152 |2.0118
6 2.16131 |2.15011
7 2.27669 |2.27023
8 2.38028 |2.3765
9 2.4741 |2.47188
10 2.55975 |2.55843
15 2.90159 |2.90148
20 3.15341 |3.1534
25 3.353 |3.353

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Quote from: bitcoindaddy on August 09, 2011, 01:16:50 PM

I suspect, but can't prove that deepbit isn't working with the alternate scheduler. I mined quite a while on the newest build and it didn't go over, even though others here said their's were mining deepbit. When I switched back to the default scheduler, it started mining deepbit.

Deepbit is evil!

Help the small guys to grow and take something away from those top 3 pools!
Do I really have to say: "Fuck globalisation, fuck central an all controlling [ADD YOUR PICK] and blaa blaa blaa? Do I?
Kiss

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Deepbit:

09.08 18:21:52 0h 20m 203 1586080 0.00620744

That's for 2950Mhash/s, Default scheduler and threshold at 60% (.6)

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moOo

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since around 2:00 pm to 7:00 pm
340 MB out
270 MB in

that seems more than high to me.. we are only sending small strings of text back and forth.. even blocks are normally in the kb range.

chek to see if you got a virus.. make sure wifi is secure

I am going to monitor the miner and hopper and see what I come up with.. but there is no way it is that much i wouldnt think.

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I just updated this morning, and now when a pool lags out, the slice goes empty, and it doesn't mine anymore until I mark something info and then back

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I suspect, but can't prove that deepbit isn't working with the alternate scheduler. I mined quite a while on the newest build and it didn't go over, even though others here said their's were mining deepbit. When I switched back to the default scheduler, it started mining deepbit.

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Quote from: macboy80 on August 09, 2011, 01:06:35 PM

I would like to pose a possibly over-complicated solution to the slice vs. default scheduler question that I'm not even sure is possible. I may be way off, but please give this some thought.

Create a new role called "mine_slice". This would be for the small pools with low hashrate (user selectable). The faster pools would stay "mine".
My idea is to run the slice scheduler inside of the default scheduler. So the behavior would be: If there were "mine" pools below threshold, you would be mining them under OldDefault rules. If there were no acceptable "mine" pools, all of the "mine_slice" pools would be selected running under slice rules as a group, but only if there was one or more below threshold. If all of these options were exhausted, we would then resort to "backup".

Visually, I see it like this.
OldDefaultScheduler[mine; mine_slush; SliceScheduler(mine_slice); backup]

Like I said, I'm not even sure this is possible, and I'm definitely not qualified to try to code it. Just food for thought...

I think this is a pretty good idea. It may be a good alternative to slicing based off pool speed. I don't think it would be to hard to code in either. Very nice idea.

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@macboy80 favouring slush when available is on issue list in git and it's already implemented in AltScheduler
ppl in here would surely give you answers about the new role you propose

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Quote from: dribbits on August 09, 2011, 01:01:12 PM

Ive got bitHopper running on my main machine with 2 GPUS, and 10 more miners from other machines that connect to it. Including browsing the internet I have used 61.7MB down and 25.6MB up today. Do you have some other software doing auto updates or something in the background?

ok, I think, the first important step will be the miner on the second PC connect to this PC's bithopper...
(because now it is running here 2 times)
how can I do this (if the ip changes every reboot)?

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