BITMAIN announces Antpool - page 88.

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Quote from: tmpwhore on February 06, 2015, 02:00:47 PM

Sure may try that out but since BTCGuild and nicehash has been so crappy lately I'm going to try a couple of new pools one at a time. Just wanted to know what the difference was connecting just normally:

Ie. stratum+tcp://stratum.antpool.com:3333

than solo.antpool.com:3333?

I see no real difference and there is no explanation in the help on their site. Just started mining on Antpool with my Sp20 and 3 overclocked S3+'s. Oh well I guess I can connect both ways for a few days and see what happens but if someone knows that would be great.

There is no difference between these two- "stratum.antpool & solo.antpool". They are both directed too the same pool. The use of the word "solo" is not the correct translation. They were trying to differentiate the Standard stratum PPLNS pool from their P2P pool/node, which to this day is an unfinished/broken project with the "P2P.antpool....." name/address.

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Sure may try that out but since BTCGuild and nicehash has been so crappy lately I'm going to try a couple of new pools one at a time. Just wanted to know what the difference was connecting just normally:

Ie. stratum+tcp://stratum.antpool.com:3333

than solo.antpool.com:3333?

I see no real difference and there is no explanation in the help on their site. Just started mining on Antpool with my Sp20 and 3 overclocked S3+'s. Oh well I guess I can connect both ways for a few days and see what happens but if someone knows that would be great.

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Quote from: tmpwhore on February 06, 2015, 01:40:42 PM

Hey guys what's the best payout protocol for the antminer pool with only 3 TH/s. I'm just connecting now with the normal stratum+tcp://stratum.antpool.com:3333 method which is PPNLS shares. Is it more effecient to try the solo method? What the biggest difference? You're still getting a cut of the shares from one single block anyway. I'm not sure with only 3 TH/s p2p even on a different node would work very well would it?

I like to use ckpool, http://www.kano.is . Great pool, honest operator, and can get very lucky at times.

I would never mine anywhere else.

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM

Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

No because I don't use it and never will.

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Hey guys what's the best payout protocol for the antminer pool with only 3 TH/s. I'm just connecting now with the normal stratum+tcp://stratum.antpool.com:3333 method which is PPNLS shares. Is it more effecient to try the solo method? What the biggest difference? You're still getting a cut of the shares from one single block anyway. I'm not sure with only 3 TH/s p2p even on a different node would work very well would it?

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Quote from: windpath on February 04, 2015, 07:42:51 PM

Quote from: dogie on February 04, 2015, 06:35:07 PM

There is meant to be geolocation on automatically anyway, so at least on paper US should be worse.

Are you suggesting they implemented LBR or just do a location based IP lookup (very slow)?

I am unsure how it is implemented.

Dogie support (was never official) for this product has now expired. Other staff will now service your queries in this thread.

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Quote from: dogie on February 04, 2015, 06:35:07 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 03:51:26 PM

Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:45:16 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 12:33:57 PM

Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:26:43 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM

Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

Intermittent server busy on the website but miners have been uninterrupted. Wish they would fix the screwup they introduced yesterday to the header layout which put the account menu in the middle of the stats field.

All my miners went down for a while for the nth time. Hope they improve stability.

I'm using the newer us.solo. server for my minres, it has been much better at retaining uptime for me so far.

Oh, I just used solo.antpool.com:3333. But I am located in europe. Anyone who knows if the US server is better from europe as well?

There is meant to be geolocation on automatically anyway, so at least on paper US should be worse.

Are you suggesting they implemented LBR or just do a location based IP lookup (very slow)?

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 03:51:26 PM

Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:45:16 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 12:33:57 PM

Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:26:43 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM

Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

Intermittent server busy on the website but miners have been uninterrupted. Wish they would fix the screwup they introduced yesterday to the header layout which put the account menu in the middle of the stats field.

All my miners went down for a while for the nth time. Hope they improve stability.

I'm using the newer us.solo. server for my minres, it has been much better at retaining uptime for me so far.

Oh, I just used solo.antpool.com:3333. But I am located in europe. Anyone who knows if the US server is better from europe as well?

There is meant to be geolocation on automatically anyway, so at least on paper US should be worse.

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Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:45:16 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 12:33:57 PM

Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:26:43 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM

Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

Intermittent server busy on the website but miners have been uninterrupted. Wish they would fix the screwup they introduced yesterday to the header layout which put the account menu in the middle of the stats field.

All my miners went down for a while for the nth time. Hope they improve stability.

I'm using the newer us.solo. server for my minres, it has been much better at retaining uptime for me so far.

Oh, I just used solo.antpool.com:3333. But I am located in europe. Anyone who knows if the US server is better from europe as well?

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 12:33:57 PM

Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:26:43 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM

Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

Intermittent server busy on the website but miners have been uninterrupted. Wish they would fix the screwup they introduced yesterday to the header layout which put the account menu in the middle of the stats field.

All my miners went down for a while for the nth time. Hope they improve stability.

I'm using the newer us.solo. server for my minres, it has been much better at retaining uptime for me so far.

Fatman3001

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Quote from: hurricandave on February 04, 2015, 12:26:43 PM

Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM

Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

Intermittent server busy on the website but miners have been uninterrupted. Wish they would fix the screwup they introduced yesterday to the header layout which put the account menu in the middle of the stats field.

All my miners went down for a while for the nth time. Hope they improve stability.

hurricandave

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Quote from: Fatman3001 on February 04, 2015, 11:54:28 AM

Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

Intermittent server busy on the website but miners have been uninterrupted. Wish they would fix the screwup they introduced yesterday to the header layout which put the account menu in the middle of the stats field.

Fatman3001

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Anyone else having trouble with their pool the last hour?

IYFTech

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WANTED: Active dev to fix & re-write p2pool in C

I can't believe they still haven't revised their topic header to be more accurate & less misleading. I'm not sure what's worse, them making blatantly false claims - or the "suckers" who believe them Tongue

So many pools jumping on the p2pool bandwagon with fake "decentralised" claims. Don't they have any genuinely true marketing gimmicks? Angry

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Quote from: adaseb on January 28, 2015, 09:50:01 PM

Quote from: mdude77 on January 28, 2015, 05:53:27 PM

Quote from: kcal63 on January 28, 2015, 05:47:35 PM

Can anyone give me an idea of what the payouts from antpool have been like lately?
I just got my first S5 today and have an entire rack more of them on the way and wondering if antpool is a viable option for a US miner.
Thanks

Presumably Antpool works.

However, it's not what it's advertised to be. Bitmain uses false advertising for Antpool. As someone stated above, it's close to the largest centralized pool out there. That's a bad thing.

Might I suggest ckpool (http://www.kano.is/)?

M

Why is centralized pool considered bad? It is because there can be a 50% hack?

If the topic properly read "Bitmain announes Antpool: not really p2pool, we're just giving it a similar name so people help us make the biggest centralized pool ever! suckers!" would you join?

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Quote from: adaseb on January 28, 2015, 09:50:01 PM

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Why is centralized pool considered bad? It is because there can be a 50% hack?

It's not a hack, it is control. Control is the antithesis of a decentralized network.

From Satoshi's whitepaper (underline mine):

Quote

2. Transactions
We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures. Each owner transfers the coin to the
next by digitally signing a hash of the previous transaction and the public key of the next owner
and adding these to the end of the coin. A payee can verify the signatures to verify the chain of
ownership.

The problem of course is the payee can't verify that one of the owners did not double-spend
the coin. A common solution is to introduce a trusted central authority, or mint, that checks every
transaction for double spending. After each transaction, the coin must be returned to the mint to
issue a new coin, and only coins issued directly from the mint are trusted not to be double-spent.
The problem with this solution is that the fate of the entire money system depends on the
company running the mint, with every transaction having to go through them, just like a bank.

We need a way for the payee to know that the previous owners did not sign any earlier
transactions. For our purposes, the earliest transaction is the one that counts, so we don't care
about later attempts to double-spend. The only way to confirm the absence of a transaction is to
be aware of all transactions. In the mint based model, the mint was aware of all transactions and
decided which arrived first. To accomplish this without a trusted party, transactions must be
publicly announced [1], and we need a system for participants to agree on a single history of the
order in which they were received. The payee needs proof that at the time of each transaction, the
majority of nodes agreed it was the first received.

The second underlined part is where miners decentralize the agreement on what transactions are valid or not. Moving beyond a 51% attack, what if you had a 100% attack? Then you have a mint. 51% is the hypothetical threshold where this becomes not only possible, but perhaps inevitable...

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Quote from: mdude77 on January 28, 2015, 05:53:27 PM

Quote from: kcal63 on January 28, 2015, 05:47:35 PM

Can anyone give me an idea of what the payouts from antpool have been like lately?
I just got my first S5 today and have an entire rack more of them on the way and wondering if antpool is a viable option for a US miner.
Thanks

Presumably Antpool works.

However, it's not what it's advertised to be. Bitmain uses false advertising for Antpool. As someone stated above, it's close to the largest centralized pool out there. That's a bad thing.

Might I suggest ckpool (http://www.kano.is/)?

M

Why is centralized pool considered bad? It is because there can be a 50% hack?

mdude77

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Quote from: kcal63 on January 28, 2015, 05:47:35 PM

Can anyone give me an idea of what the payouts from antpool have been like lately?
I just got my first S5 today and have an entire rack more of them on the way and wondering if antpool is a viable option for a US miner.
Thanks

Presumably Antpool works.

However, it's not what it's advertised to be. Bitmain uses false advertising for Antpool. As someone stated above, it's close to the largest centralized pool out there. That's a bad thing.

Might I suggest ckpool (http://www.kano.is/)?

M

kcal63

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Can anyone give me an idea of what the payouts from antpool have been like lately?
I just got my first S5 today and have an entire rack more of them on the way and wondering if antpool is a viable option for a US miner.
Thanks

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Quote from: adaseb on January 28, 2015, 11:04:10 AM

Just connected to the pool.

Been mining for 30 mins but all my stats are 0

I doubled checked the address and workers.

They are slow to update stats. Give it a little more time.

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