Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds - page 18.

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Quote from: gentlemand on June 14, 2017, 04:41:14 AM

I just noticed the selfish mining and premine part as well.

I'm starting to believe this is some sort of performance art piece now.

nice shot with that extra premine NICE Cheesy

he is god he will mine it with all asic boost miners ...
He doens give fuck ? Trash asicboost miner ? no mine BU altcoin and get some cash + add some premine Genius.
He will HF to self defence aiscboost tech ^^

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Quote from: gentlemand on June 14, 2017, 04:41:14 AM

I just noticed the selfish mining and premine part as well.

I'm starting to believe this is some sort of performance art piece now.

You can't expect them to be honest/fair.

Bitmain is a company, a company is an centralized entity.

They have no other way but to have control over their product.

Bitmain is trying to be a central bank. Let them have it. Cheesy

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners? Sounds like an emotional thing to say. And to answer your question, maybe it won't be centralized, but it definitely won't be bitcoin with minority hash power. Don't fall for the lies. We will soon have a superior bitcoin with large blocks and we may also have a Core/Segwit altcoin. Ignore false narratives that try and flip this.

Jihan might be a bitoiner but he is also the CEO of a mining cartel. I rather have cypher punks as users than Jihan and pals.
I'm not a UASF supporter but saying that only because it has minority hash power it's not Bitcoin is so wrong on so many levels.
You think hash power is the only thing that makes "Bitcoin" Bitcoin?

25hashcoin is probably a bought account employed by Jihan or Ver, no one should believe anything that shill says. If you check his posts, one day he is 100% pro core and the next 100% pro Jihan, a complete 180 turnaround in a short span with no explanation.

No, but nice try. That's all you Core people can do is accuse people of being shills isn't it? Is it really that unfathomable that real people wan't to actually scale bitcoin with larger blocks how it was intended? Yes, I used to be a pro Core sheep and didn't know any better but I realized I have been duped. Here's some great reading material for anyone who isn't sure whether or not they are acting in bitcoins best interests: https://keepingstock.net/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0

A "real" person cannot possible believe the shit you post. You shills really should at least make an effort to not sound like shills, then maybe people might think you are a real person and not some bought, employed, mouth-piece for Jihan and his conspirators.

I really don't see how you can possibly even think that. The majority in this space seem to side with big blockers. It seems you may be a victim of censorship and echochambers if you really think that way. I have the same reaction to posts like yours just now. Hard to believe people are really that brainwashed.

Most people here are not big blockers, what forum you been reading (oh right, r/btc)? Most people do want a capacity increase but they want it done safely and not by Jihan Wu, BU or their shitty development team. Since you seem to be living in your own "echochamber" as you /r/btc shills like to say, most people here do not trust Jihan and his people have Bitcoin's best interests at heart, and for good reason.

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I just noticed the selfish mining and premine part as well.

I'm starting to believe this is some sort of performance art piece now.

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Quote from: FiendCoin on June 14, 2017, 04:33:21 AM

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Quote from: FiendCoin on June 14, 2017, 04:15:13 AM

Quote from: forevernoob on June 14, 2017, 04:02:00 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners? Sounds like an emotional thing to say. And to answer your question, maybe it won't be centralized, but it definitely won't be bitcoin with minority hash power. Don't fall for the lies. We will soon have a superior bitcoin with large blocks and we may also have a Core/Segwit altcoin. Ignore false narratives that try and flip this.

Jihan might be a bitoiner but he is also the CEO of a mining cartel. I rather have cypher punks as users than Jihan and pals.
I'm not a UASF supporter but saying that only because it has minority hash power it's not Bitcoin is so wrong on so many levels.
You think hash power is the only thing that makes "Bitcoin" Bitcoin?

25hashcoin is probably a bought account employed by Jihan or Ver, no one should believe anything that shill says. If you check his posts, one day he is 100% pro core and the next 100% pro Jihan, a complete 180 turnaround in a short span with no explanation.

No, but nice try. That's all you Core people can do is accuse people of being shills isn't it? Is it really that unfathomable that real people wan't to actually scale bitcoin with larger blocks how it was intended? Yes, I used to be a pro Core sheep and didn't know any better but I realized I have been duped. Here's some great reading material for anyone who isn't sure whether or not they are acting in bitcoins best interests: https://keepingstock.net/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0

A "real" person cannot possible believe the shit you post. You shills really should at least make an effort to not sound like shills, then maybe people might think you are a real person and not some bought, employed, mouth-piece for Jihan and his conspirators.

I really don't see how you can possibly even think that. The majority in this space seem to side with big blockers. It seems you may be a victim of censorship and echochambers if you really think that way. I have the same reaction to posts like yours just now. Hard to believe people are really that brainwashed.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 04:22:59 AM

Quote from: FiendCoin on June 14, 2017, 04:15:13 AM

Quote from: forevernoob on June 14, 2017, 04:02:00 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners? Sounds like an emotional thing to say. And to answer your question, maybe it won't be centralized, but it definitely won't be bitcoin with minority hash power. Don't fall for the lies. We will soon have a superior bitcoin with large blocks and we may also have a Core/Segwit altcoin. Ignore false narratives that try and flip this.

Jihan might be a bitoiner but he is also the CEO of a mining cartel. I rather have cypher punks as users than Jihan and pals.
I'm not a UASF supporter but saying that only because it has minority hash power it's not Bitcoin is so wrong on so many levels.
You think hash power is the only thing that makes "Bitcoin" Bitcoin?

25hashcoin is probably a bought account employed by Jihan or Ver, no one should believe anything that shill says. If you check his posts, one day he is 100% pro core and the next 100% pro Jihan, a complete 180 turnaround in a short span with no explanation.

No, but nice try. That's all you Core people can do is accuse people of being shills isn't it? Is it really that unfathomable that real people wan't to actually scale bitcoin with larger blocks how it was intended? Yes, I used to be a pro Core sheep and didn't know any better but I realized I have been duped. Here's some great reading material for anyone who isn't sure whether or not they are acting in bitcoins best interests: https://keepingstock.net/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0

A "real" person cannot possible believe the shit you post. You shills really should at least make an effort to not sound like shills, then maybe people might think you are a real person and not some bought, employed, mouth-piece for Jihan and his conspirators.

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Goodbye, Z.

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Quote from: aarturka on June 14, 2017, 03:53:22 AM

For now they are bitcoiners but it won't last long. Soon they will be shitcoiners after their hardfork

Explain to me how uasf will be bitcoin with a minority hashpower but this hard fork would be an altcoin with a majority hashpower and majority of the ecosystem backing it? You have it completely backwards. There's bitcoin, and then there's Core trying to desperately keep their grasps on bitcoin with uasf.

How about you explain to us how this "uahf" will be bitcoin after bitmain mined it privately for 72 hours?
How can you accept any chain as bitcoin that has a 432 block part being mined in private?
Sounds like bit(main)coin to me.

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Quote from: FiendCoin on June 14, 2017, 04:15:13 AM

Quote from: forevernoob on June 14, 2017, 04:02:00 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners? Sounds like an emotional thing to say. And to answer your question, maybe it won't be centralized, but it definitely won't be bitcoin with minority hash power. Don't fall for the lies. We will soon have a superior bitcoin with large blocks and we may also have a Core/Segwit altcoin. Ignore false narratives that try and flip this.

Jihan might be a bitoiner but he is also the CEO of a mining cartel. I rather have cypher punks as users than Jihan and pals.
I'm not a UASF supporter but saying that only because it has minority hash power it's not Bitcoin is so wrong on so many levels.
You think hash power is the only thing that makes "Bitcoin" Bitcoin?

25hashcoin is probably a bought account employed by Jihan or Ver, no one should believe anything that shill says. If you check his posts, one day he is 100% pro core and the next 100% pro Jihan, a complete 180 turnaround in a short span with no explanation.

No, but nice try. That's all you Core people can do is accuse people of being shills isn't it? Is it really that unfathomable that real people wan't to actually scale bitcoin with larger blocks how it was intended? Yes, I used to be a pro Core sheep and didn't know any better but I realized I have been duped. Here's some great reading material for anyone who isn't sure whether or not they are acting in bitcoins best interests: https://keepingstock.net/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0

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Jihan shills are ready to name their alt as "bitcoin" woohooo!

This gon' be gud.

What a freakshow Grin

Quote from: FiendCoin on June 14, 2017, 04:15:13 AM

25hashcoin is probably a bought account employed by Jihan or Ver

Exactly my thoughts. Added him to my "ignored/jihan spammers" list decades ago.

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Quote from: forevernoob on June 14, 2017, 04:02:00 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners? Sounds like an emotional thing to say. And to answer your question, maybe it won't be centralized, but it definitely won't be bitcoin with minority hash power. Don't fall for the lies. We will soon have a superior bitcoin with large blocks and we may also have a Core/Segwit altcoin. Ignore false narratives that try and flip this.

Jihan might be a bitoiner but he is also the CEO of a mining cartel. I rather have cypher punks as users than Jihan and pals.
I'm not a UASF supporter but saying that only because it has minority hash power it's not Bitcoin is so wrong on so many levels.
You think hash power is the only thing that makes "Bitcoin" Bitcoin?

25hashcoin is probably a bought account employed by Jihan or Ver, no one should believe anything that shill says. If you check his posts, one day he is 100% pro core and the next 100% pro Jihan, a complete 180 turnaround in a short span with no explanation.

As for the Jihan HF, I would be very happy if he and his conspirators forked off the network. He and anyone else who thinks they can hijack Bitcoin need to be taught a lesson.

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I was waiting for some action from the dark side! And here it is!
To be honst I don't think Jihan is really that stupid! OR is he? A 100% centralized Jihancoin, premined and probably without nodes fully validating transactions as Jihan hates this right?! Who is going to use this crap? And what developers shall work on this? I'd guess NOBODY!
I say he is bluffing. Hot air! Empty words!Just some more FUD!
This is soo much more fuel for UASF 148 right now.

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Quote from: theymos on June 14, 2017, 02:28:40 AM

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/uahf-contingency-plan-uasf-bip148/

Bitmain is announcing that if BIP148 succeeds, then they are essentially going to mine a new SHA-256 altcoin instead of Bitcoin. If you don't do anything, it'll be as if mining power dropped somewhat, but you'll otherwise be completely unaffected.

I feel like some people might read this statement as trying to force a decision between Bitmain's altcoin and BIP148, but you should be roughly equally unaffected whether or not you enforce BIP148. It might help BIP148's chances a little due to removing Bitmain from consideration and therefore increasing the chances of activating the traditional BIP141 SegWit deployment, though I continue to be pessimistic about BIP148's chances; I consider continuation of the status-quo and a somewhat later BIP149 UASF as the most likely outcome.

I kinda doubt that they're actually going to stick by what they say here, but if they do, it only seems like good news. If you'd like to use a currency controlled by a single company that puts its ability to use its patented Asicboost tech above all other considerations, feel free! I'll stick with Bitcoin, thank you very much.

This is what we should have expected

And this is what I've been telling many times myself, namely, that miners (Jihan Wu's puppets, specifically) will leave no stone unturned to escalate things further (to keep things where they are now). But I don't think that they are really going to stake everything when the time comes to decide and actually follow their decision. This will just turn out the same bluff as it has always been the case before with miners and the stuff they have been proposing (like BU and similar bullshit)

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners? Sounds like an emotional thing to say. And to answer your question, maybe it won't be centralized, but it definitely won't be bitcoin with minority hash power. Don't fall for the lies. We will soon have a superior bitcoin with large blocks and we may also have a Core/Segwit altcoin. Ignore false narratives that try and flip this.

Jihan might be a bitoiner but he is also the CEO of a mining cartel. I rather have cypher punks as users than Jihan and pals.
I'm not a UASF supporter but saying that only because it has minority hash power it's not Bitcoin is so wrong on so many levels.
You think hash power is the only thing that makes "Bitcoin" Bitcoin?

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Quote from: pinkflower on June 14, 2017, 03:08:51 AM

If the chain splits, it will be bad from an image perspective for BTC. Pride destroyed whats supposed to be a brilliant master piece.

I'm not sure I'd call it much of a chain split myself. It's one tumour going off to do its own thing while everyone else does theirs. I will not be doing business with a chain entirely controlled by one person.

This little fella seems to be condemned to keep attempting the same thing in a different form forever. He should be put out of his misery for his own sake or be left to go off and play with himself on his own.

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Quote from: aarturka on June 14, 2017, 03:53:22 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners?

For now they are bitcoiners but it won't last long. Soon they will be shitcoiners after their hardfork

Explain to me how uasf will be bitcoin with a minority hashpower but this hard fork would be an altcoin with a majority hashpower and majority of the ecosystem backing it? You have it completely backwards. There's bitcoin, and then there's Core trying to desperately keep their grasps on bitcoin with uasf.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:43:31 AM

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners?

For now they are bitcoiners but it won't last long. Soon they will be shitcoiners after their hardfork

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Quote from: forevernoob on June 14, 2017, 03:35:35 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:31:01 AM

Only centralized shitcoin will be Cores UASF who has a very minority support.

And how would a UASF chain mined by ACTUAL bitcoin users be centralized?
A Jihancoin will be mined by Bitmain only. How is that decentralized?

Bitmain's mining network is perfectly decentralized, enriched with backdoored miners all over the world. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: forevernoob on June 14, 2017, 03:35:35 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:31:01 AM

Only centralized shitcoin will be Cores UASF who has a very minority support.

And how would a UASF chain mined by ACTUAL bitcoin users be centralized?

You're saying Jihan and the many big blockers aren't actual bitcoiners? Sounds like an emotional thing to say. And to answer your question, maybe it won't be centralized, but it definitely won't be bitcoin with minority hash power. Don't fall for the lies. We will soon have a superior bitcoin with large blocks and we may also have a Core/Segwit altcoin. Ignore false narratives that try and flip this.

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Quote from: theymos on June 14, 2017, 02:28:40 AM

Bitmain is announcing that if BIP148 succeeds, then they are essentially going to mine a new SHA-256 altcoin instead of Bitcoin. If you don't do anything, it'll be as if mining power dropped somewhat, but you'll otherwise be completely unaffected.

Big words from their side, but no, I clearly don't believe them. They will not go away from the precioussss Bitcoin for a (worthless!) altcoin they'd create.
This is only a "political declaration" (which I've learned that's the nice way to say about a lie). However, I will not be neither happier nor sad, I think that this means nothing and nothing will change.

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Quote from: forevernoob on June 14, 2017, 03:28:17 AM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on June 14, 2017, 03:22:54 AM

It will not be an alt, it will be bitcoin. Only alt might be uasf chain. Don't believe the people that will tell you to sell off your non uasf chain tokens either. You will regret it for life.

Finally the removal of toxic Core/Blockstreamer influence and on to making bitcoin great again! Very bullish news!

Why would you support a centralized shitcoin? That makes no sense to me.

he gets topnotch chinese buds from Jihad

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