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Quote from: kae1078 on June 25, 2015, 03:57:50 PM

Please shed some light, I just wanna know if I'm gonna use this APW3-12-1600 PSU to my antminer S4 (Terminal type) the 1st batch of S4, there is a big difference when it comes to the switch of power supply.
My question is how am I gonna power up this power supply without power button, unlike in my 1st batch S4 it has a builtin power switch with the PSU.

Thanks & best regards, kae1078

Its auto on, which means when you provide it mains power its already on. Think of it like a phone charger, if you plug it in its just on.

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Please shed some light, I just wanna know if I'm gonna use this APW3-12-1600 PSU to my antminer S4 (Terminal type) the 1st batch of S4, there is a big difference when it comes to the switch of power supply.
My question is how am I gonna power up this power supply without power button, unlike in my 1st batch S4 it has a builtin power switch with the PSU.

Thanks & best regards

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Quote from: fullintegrity on June 11, 2015, 01:37:54 PM

I just ordered 4 new S5's, (which im going to assume they were running, because they do not look fresh off the factory line- but they hash ok i guess) and also 2 of these PSU APW3-12-1600-B2 from bitmaintech. My third purchase, after the S3 and S5's i already have.
My issue is that upon pluggin the psu in, the fan comes on, but fails to even light up the S5, which i checked the actual s5 unit with another PSU i have working on another S5 that i already have. How possible could it be that i had 2 BAD PSU sent? Odds of that are wierd.
I sent a ticket in last night and this am woke to this:
Hi,
please confirm what's the voltage from the wall in your side.
The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage.
Please confirm whether it's due to this issue.

I wrote back that im in the US, upper middle class neighborhood with a house built in the late 90's.
Power is fine on my side, even as i told them that the unit works with my own PSU's and not my power issue, but a FAULTY PSU by them.
I hope they pay for the freight for return and EITHER A REPLACEMENT AT NO COST TO ME, or just give me back my frickin btc, ill go back to using the 750W like the other 3 i have working just great.

- AS OF RIGHT NOW, I GIVE THESE UNITS A FLAT THUMBS DOWN. well see if that changes with the Bitmain Customer Support.

-For what its worth in my two cent mining ops

As others in the thread stated, your issue is likely due to insufficient mains voltage. If you're interested in platinum PSUs that will work for you, check the link in my sig. Two of the 1100s will power 4 S5s and will run on your residential 120V power just fine. Highly recommend you put them on two different breakers, however.

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Quote from: fullintegrity on June 11, 2015, 01:37:54 PM

I just ordered 4 new S5's, (which im going to assume they were running, because they do not look fresh off the factory line- but they hash ok i guess) and also 2 of these PSU APW3-12-1600-B2 from bitmaintech. My third purchase, after the S3 and S5's i already have.
My issue is that upon pluggin the psu in, the fan comes on, but fails to even light up the S5, which i checked the actual s5 unit with another PSU i have working on another S5 that i already have. How possible could it be that i had 2 BAD PSU sent? Odds of that are wierd.
I sent a ticket in last night and this am woke to this:
Hi,
please confirm what's the voltage from the wall in your side.
The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage.
Please confirm whether it's due to this issue.

I wrote back that im in the US, upper middle class neighborhood with a house built in the late 90's.
Power is fine on my side, even as i told them that the unit works with my own PSU's and not my power issue, but a FAULTY PSU by them.
I hope they pay for the freight for return and EITHER A REPLACEMENT AT NO COST TO ME, or just give me back my frickin btc, ill go back to using the 750W like the other 3 i have working just great.

- AS OF RIGHT NOW, I GIVE THESE UNITS A FLAT THUMBS DOWN. well see if that changes with the Bitmain Customer Support.

-For what its worth in my two cent mining ops

http://www.lowes.com/pd_246702-1571-L630-RCCV3_1z0yt2jZ1z10vpr__?productId=3537736&pl=1
usa 240 wall plugs look like this.

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Quote from: fullintegrity on June 11, 2015, 01:37:54 PM

I just ordered 2 of these PSU APW3-12-1600-B2 from bitmaintech.
My issue is that upon pluggin the psu in, the fan comes on, but fails to even light up the S5, which i checked the actual s5 unit with another PSU i have working on another S5 that i already have. How possible could it be that i had 2 BAD PSU sent? Odds of that are wierd.
I sent a ticket in last night and this am woke to this:
Hi,
please confirm what's the voltage from the wall in your side.
The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage.
Please confirm whether it's due to this issue.

I wrote back that im in the US, upper middle class neighborhood with a house built in the late 90's.
Power is fine on my side, even as i told them that the unit works with my own PSU's and not my power issue, but a FAULTY PSU by them.
I hope they pay for the freight for return and EITHER A REPLACEMENT AT NO COST TO ME, or just give me back my frickin btc, ill go back to using the 750W like the other 3 i have working just great.

sounds like you dont know the difference between 'MINIMUM OF 205 VOLTS' and a typical 115V outlet. obviously a 240V-only device wont work on 115V. Thats like trying to plug in a microwave to your 240V dryer outlet (hint: it will probably release smoke)

please confirm that you are either using a correct outlet, or simply did not read the PSU description properly before ordering

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Quote from: sidehack on June 11, 2015, 01:44:44 PM

An upper-middle-class house in the US will not have 240V common circuits, no matter when it was built. DId you wire in 240V outlets specifically, or are you running it off a repurposed dedicated AC or dryer plug or something?

Sidehack is very right with most US houses they normally do not put in 220/240 for devices unless you had asked when being built or added it on. Chances are you have a outlet that's 220/240 for your washer/dryer and maybe a stove depending on settings.

But you will need a 220/240 breaker with higher guage wire installed most likely to mine with the PSU's. They need the extra power to be able to boot up, that's why warn about "The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage."

As always be careful with electrictricity but if you have a nice power multimeter you can tell at the outlet what it's putting out. If you do not have one you can tell by finding the breaker used for that outlet.

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I assume you have tried taking one of your "new" (i.e. recently arrived) S5's and swapped it in place of a working S5? You just want to make sure that the S5 is functional, and not a broken PSU.

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An upper-middle-class house in the US will not have 240V common circuits, no matter when it was built. DId you wire in 240V outlets specifically, or are you running it off a repurposed dedicated AC or dryer plug or something?

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I just ordered 4 new S5's, (which im going to assume they were running, because they do not look fresh off the factory line- but they hash ok i guess) and also 2 of these PSU APW3-12-1600-B2 from bitmaintech. My third purchase, after the S3 and S5's i already have.
My issue is that upon pluggin the psu in, the fan comes on, but fails to even light up the S5, which i checked the actual s5 unit with another PSU i have working on another S5 that i already have. How possible could it be that i had 2 BAD PSU sent? Odds of that are wierd.
I sent a ticket in last night and this am woke to this:
Hi,
please confirm what's the voltage from the wall in your side.
The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage.
Please confirm whether it's due to this issue.

I wrote back that im in the US, upper middle class neighborhood with a house built in the late 90's.
Power is fine on my side, even as i told them that the unit works with my own PSU's and not my power issue, but a FAULTY PSU by them.
I hope they pay for the freight for return and EITHER A REPLACEMENT AT NO COST TO ME, or just give me back my frickin btc, ill go back to using the 750W like the other 3 i have working just great.

- AS OF RIGHT NOW, I GIVE THESE UNITS A FLAT THUMBS DOWN. well see if that changes with the Bitmain Customer Support.

-For what its worth in my two cent mining ops

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Quote from: Tupsu on June 11, 2015, 07:22:02 AM

Named S4 Power_Board V1.0

http://i.imgur.com/tmMMvNO.jpg

wtf am I to do with that?

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Quote from: dogie on June 11, 2015, 06:33:15 AM

DPS-2000 + breakout board + S4's cables. You'll have to check if the breakout board has a limit per wire channel, I don't remember one.

Ohh dog-ie. You produce a pure loss for your owner Bitmain with your barking.

BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series hat is own separate power board to connect the PCI-E cables with S4 cables.

Named S4 Power_Board V1.0

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Quote from: FreeFelix on June 11, 2015, 05:35:01 AM

Quote from: Prelude on May 20, 2015, 06:01:10 PM

Man, some of you guys are fucking annoying. Get off of Dogie's case, or start a thread dedicated to Dogie bashing so you folks can congregate there and circle jerk each other in privacy so we don't have to continually read your fucking useless drivel.

Since none of you geniuses actually have one of these, I'll comment on them. I've got 3 S4+, and so far they're running great. Not a single issue. They seem much better than what came with S4s, by a long shot. Will they die in 2 months? Who the fuck knows. If BITMAIN is serious about these PSUs, they should send a sample to Oklahoma Wolf over at jonnyguru.com. He'll reveal the truth about this PSU in short order. (BITMAIN: If you're interested in this, I can set it up... Just PM me)

About those 2 pictures posted earlier... The first has nothing to even do with the PSU, it's a heat sink fin loose in the main S4 case. BITMAIN QC failure for sure, things like that are hardware killers. The second picture is of a pinched 12V fan wire inside the PSU. Yep, another QC issue, but one that falls on the PSU OEM, not BITMAIN. BITMAIN can't be expected to open up every PSU to check them out for physical damage, in fact they'd probably cause more problems than they'd catch if they did. What that picture tells me, is that the short circuit protection works perfectly in that PSU, and it saved the PSU from failure. You'd be a fool to think this only happens to BITMAIN hardware. Pinched wires have happened with Delta PSUs, Flextronic PSUs, Seasonic PSUs, etc... Shit happens. It'll just happen much less with the big boys I just mentioned.

Now, this PSU is a no-go for me. 18AWG wires and unknown quality means I'll stick to used server hardware made by the likes of Delta.

Which would you use to replace the PSU that has stopped working in an S4. The PSU is connected by bolts to the board not a PCI

DPS-2000 + breakout board + S4's cables. You'll have to check if the breakout board has a limit per wire channel, I don't remember one.

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Quote from: Prelude on May 20, 2015, 06:01:10 PM

Man, some of you guys are fucking annoying. Get off of Dogie's case, or start a thread dedicated to Dogie bashing so you folks can congregate there and circle jerk each other in privacy so we don't have to continually read your fucking useless drivel.

Since none of you geniuses actually have one of these, I'll comment on them. I've got 3 S4+, and so far they're running great. Not a single issue. They seem much better than what came with S4s, by a long shot. Will they die in 2 months? Who the fuck knows. If BITMAIN is serious about these PSUs, they should send a sample to Oklahoma Wolf over at jonnyguru.com. He'll reveal the truth about this PSU in short order. (BITMAIN: If you're interested in this, I can set it up... Just PM me)

About those 2 pictures posted earlier... The first has nothing to even do with the PSU, it's a heat sink fin loose in the main S4 case. BITMAIN QC failure for sure, things like that are hardware killers. The second picture is of a pinched 12V fan wire inside the PSU. Yep, another QC issue, but one that falls on the PSU OEM, not BITMAIN. BITMAIN can't be expected to open up every PSU to check them out for physical damage, in fact they'd probably cause more problems than they'd catch if they did. What that picture tells me, is that the short circuit protection works perfectly in that PSU, and it saved the PSU from failure. You'd be a fool to think this only happens to BITMAIN hardware. Pinched wires have happened with Delta PSUs, Flextronic PSUs, Seasonic PSUs, etc... Shit happens. It'll just happen much less with the big boys I just mentioned.

Now, this PSU is a no-go for me. 18AWG wires and unknown quality means I'll stick to used server hardware made by the likes of Delta.

Which would you use to replace the PSU that has stopped working in an S4. The PSU is connected by bolts to the board not a PCI

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on June 04, 2015, 05:39:58 PM

Quote from: fullintegrity on June 04, 2015, 05:07:39 PM

Is this plug n play, or am i going to get this and have to go buy a power cord for it?
im in US, so i assume i am ok with the 205V minimum?
Thanks

As Bitmain states in the product description, we need to supply our own cord.
Gets them off the hook in supporting the gazillion different national plug types out there.

If you are willing to cut the male end off of a 14ga 110v IEC cord and replace it with a 6-15P that can be used. Barring that try Amazon/eBay or here http://www.stayonline.com/208v-straight-blade-cords.aspx

With being in US you would need to check and see to make sure your above 110/120. It warns if "The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage."

Be careful (call electrician if feel uncertain with electricity). But you can tell by looking in your breaker box and looking at the breakers. Specifically the breaker being used the the area where this PSU will be plugged in. For myself I had 120 and got 240 added in via a new breaker and wire.

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Quote from: fullintegrity on June 04, 2015, 05:07:39 PM

Is this plug n play, or am i going to get this and have to go buy a power cord for it?
im in US, so i assume i am ok with the 205V minimum?
Thanks

As Bitmain states in the product description, we need to supply our own cord.
Gets them off the hook in supporting the gazillion different national plug types out there.

If you are willing to cut the male end off of a 14ga 110v IEC cord and replace it with a 6-15P that can be used. Barring that try Amazon/eBay or here http://www.stayonline.com/208v-straight-blade-cords.aspx

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Is this plug n play, or am i going to get this and have to go buy a power cord for it?
im in US, so i assume i am ok with the 205V minimum?
Thanks

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 03, 2015, 12:34:03 PM

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on June 03, 2015, 10:41:41 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 30, 2015, 10:41:23 AM

and yet to see any testing on this by anyone on any gear.

which shows the current state of home mining is pretty much dead at the moment.

Or most folks already are well stocked with HP and/or IBM server supplies to take care of immediate future needs (like me) Wink

But ja, unless folks have several 'spare' kw to use at home and a way to take care of the heat, home mining could well be kaput. That doesn't mean that only Peta-pharms will be Bitmain and any other mfgrs left as customers, just that it's now past the hobbyist stage and in the hands of folks that can afford & locate larger setups.

yeah for me I have summer rates of 16.9 cents add in 1.1 cents and at 18 cents home mining is done until oct 1 rates drop to 13.3 cents and with the heat made take off 3.3 cents and from oct 1 to june 1

I am at 10 cents.

I have 1 spot to mine at 3.2 cents in the summer and 2.4 cents in the winter but my max power there is 1kwatt.
I am running 3 s-3's slight under clock.

any other renting is from rentals see sig.

please note my sig is a gift to west-nice hash and ck solopool

Heh heh.. I'm one of the lucky ones. I pay 15 cents kW-hr at home where I run 4.4Ths but at work my electric used for miners is 'free' so have 28Ths running there. Tongue

Our light-industrial rate there is 7.5 cents/kW-hr.
Nice being one of the owners Wink

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Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on June 03, 2015, 10:41:41 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 30, 2015, 10:41:23 AM

and yet to see any testing on this by anyone on any gear.

which shows the current state of home mining is pretty much dead at the moment.

Or most folks already are well stocked with HP and/or IBM server supplies to take care of immediate future needs (like me) Wink

But ja, unless folks have several 'spare' kw to use at home and a way to take care of the heat, home mining could well be kaput. That doesn't mean that only Peta-pharms will be Bitmain and any other mfgrs left as customers, just that it's now past the hobbyist stage and in the hands of folks that can afford & locate larger setups.

yeah for me I have summer rates of 16.9 cents add in 1.1 cents and at 18 cents home mining is done until oct 1 rates drop to 13.3 cents and with the heat made take off 3.3 cents and from oct 1 to june 1

I am at 10 cents.

I have 1 spot to mine at 3.2 cents in the summer and 2.4 cents in the winter but my max power there is 1kwatt.
I am running 3 s-3's slight under clock.

any other renting is from rentals see sig.

please note my sig is a gift to west-nice hash and ck solopool

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 30, 2015, 10:41:23 AM

and yet to see any testing on this by anyone on any gear.

which shows the current state of home mining is pretty much dead at the moment.

Or most folks already are well stocked with HP and/or IBM server supplies to take care of immediate future needs (like me) Wink

But ja, unless folks have several 'spare' kw to use at home and a way to take care of the heat, home mining could well be kaput. Now, that doesn't mean that the only customers left for Bitmain and any other mfgrs still around will be only Peta-farms, just that it's now past the hobbyist stage and in the hands of folks who can afford & locate larger setups.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 01, 2015, 03:31:54 PM

any idea of efficiency ?

I was afraid it would be short of power to do 3 s-5's at 1150gh freq 350 .

Please post details if you can.

Tried it only with one PSU of the 4 hours, and is efficiency is not bad.

1700 W at 223/216 V

Bad was miners GH/S(avg).
In this you are right. It would be short of power to do 3 s-5's at 1150gh freq 350 .

1575W at freq 325

1450W at freq 300

1610 W at freq 331,25M

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