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You need to vent at the top and bottom... At the botton you can put in a 8" fan, at the top you can use Dundas insulated 4" conduit and an inline fan to move air from the top of your room over to an exhaust outside. It looks like you're in a garage, so there should be some venting around going outside.  Here's a couple of links:

Insulated duct: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0049H9970/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_dp_1
4" Inline fan: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F6BL11U/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item
8" inline fan: http://www.amazon.com/VenTech-DF8-Duct-Fan-400/dp/B005KMUHWY
Transition: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00009W3GE/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item

Good luck with your room man...



The S3's are all venting out of the enclosure.  The only problem is they cannot pull enough air into the room.  A simple whole in the wall will suffice to fix the problem.

Also, to the OP, your insulation will still be very beneficial to keep the radiating heat from coming through the walls.  It just would have taken some extra math to learn that 16 S3's have more CFM than your window AC can move.  Who knows....Maybe just removing the window barriers next to the AC would be best. 


I agree with this. get an AC that will push more air than your S3's combined

The overall misunderstanding is in how an AC system works.  The AC unit is not pulling the hot air from inside the room to the outside.  What it is doing is a fan is pulling ambient temp air from inside your room,  and moving that air across a coil that is cooler than the ambient air. The colder coil absorbes some of the heat energy and removes some of the moisture via the beer can affect.  The ambient temp room air that has gone through the coil gives up some of it's heat into the coil, and left some of it's moisture condensed on the coil and is returned to the room drier and 8-15 degrees cooler than it started.  That particular AC is a closed system and doesn't move any air from inside the room to the outdoors, or from the outdoors to the inside of the room.  The hot air you feel coming out of the AC on the outside is the "heat energy" collected from the inside air through the cooling coil.  On the outside, another fan blows the outside ambient temp air across the now hot coil, pulling some of the heat from the coil then recirculates the reduced temp coolant back to the inside to soak up more heat energy from the ambient inside air.  I found a good video that illustrates how it works on youtube.      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OU7WHgJ_cY

Air from inside the room is blown across the cooling coil, then back into the room, this keeps the pressure of the room static or unchanged. 

Now with the miners doing what they do, how you currently have them configured, is attempting to pull cooler air from inside the room through the heat sinks, picking up heat energy, and exhausting that warmer air outside the sealed room.  With no air being let into the room (not through the AC as previously assumed) and all of those miners trying to pull air out of the room...creates a vacuum or negative pressure zone, that's why the door slams shut since it opens to the outside of the room which is now a positive pressure area relative to the lower pressure inside the room.  If that door was hinged on the other side of the jam and swung into the room, the miners would be sucking the door open when pulling air into the room.  Your concept is pretty good, however, you should try sealing the miners inside the room entirely.  Seal off all the exhaust holes, and mount the miners vertically so they are sucking cooler air up from the floor since colder air sinks, and exhausts out the top as hot hair naturally wants to rise away from cooler air.  Then your room will be back to a static pressure area, where the cooler air coming out of the AC unit sinks to the floor, gets pulled up through the miners heat sinks and the warmer air naturally wants to rise out of the miners.  In this fashion, your using the miners fans to help the already natural convection current, of cooler air down, and warmer air up.  I have my miners running in a small room, the ambient temp of the room about waist/chest high is 78-80F.  I have my miners mounted vertically, pulling in the air from down by the floor ~74F, (2-3 degrees cooler than midzone), when it comes out of the miners, its much warmer ~94F(warmer than midzone) and rises to the ceiling where it's apx. ~82F.  If you mount 3 digital thermometers in your room, you see the thermocline, or temp difference between the floor, mid, and ceiling height.  Give it a shot...your miners will never run cooler unless you put em in a freezer.
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Thanks for your reply, allcoinminer, but that doesn't help.  I updated the firmware for one of the two units, and they're both still doing the "not mining" thing until I restart the network and the cgminer.

My guess is that it's some timing thing with the network --- something times out in the first network setup when the antminers are first booted, and it doesn't time out after the antminer operating system has settled down.  Maybe the name server?  I've got them doing the network setup with DHCP.
newbie
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Hello!
I'm going to have two antminer s3s
I will never upgrade and I just want a PSU that can handle both Antminer's overclocked.

I heard my EVGA 500W 80 PLUS psu won't work as the 2 pci-e cables are daisy chained? I can't even see if they are or not.
I may return that PSU and try to get either..

EVGA 1000W

or

EVGA 1300W

The cheaper the better.

I was also thinking of getting two
CX600
or
CX750

Please help!
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 504
Problem re-starting S3?

I've had two Antminer S3 running for a few days now.  No problem setting them up or getting them going.  They have worked to spec.

However, today I had to shut them off, and when I turned them on again they would not start mining.
I cycled the power numerous times and rebooted.  They would come up but not mine.

The only thing that works is this: start them up.  They sit there running but not mining.  So I login through the web interface and go to "System" and "Startup", then hit the "Restart" network button, wait until it comes back, and then "Restart" cgminer.  Then they start mining and continue to work smoothly.

Any comments or advice?

I point out that both units have behaved exactly the same.

Do Reset to Factory Settings.
If not working again update firmware.
newbie
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Problem re-starting S3?

I've had two Antminer S3 running for a few days now.  No problem setting them up or getting them going.  They have worked to spec.

However, today I had to shut them off, and when I turned them on again they would not start mining.
I cycled the power numerous times and rebooted.  They would come up but not mine.

The only thing that works is this: start them up.  They sit there running but not mining.  So I login through the web interface and go to "System" and "Startup", then hit the "Restart" network button, wait until it comes back, and then "Restart" cgminer.  Then they start mining and continue to work smoothly.

Any comments or advice?

I point out that both units have behaved exactly the same.
hero member
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Hi Guys

I just got my antminer s3 and having big problems.

It's only mining at about 250ghs and gets around 75% hw error.

I am using a brand new Corsair CX500 and have also tried with my Corsair HX850.
I have changed the thermal paste on all the chips.
I have flashed it to latest firmware.
I have very stable internet connection.

Anyone have advice for me?

After 5min:
After 10min:
HW error:


Sorry, you are an RMA candidate!
newbie
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ztureo0yjlys9a/Screenshot%202014-08-08%2011.53.58.png

Looks like we have stability on the Ant that would'nt take 250 at a setting of 243.75 and averaging 490 GH/s!
newbie
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Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.

I have been running both of my Ant's OC'd to 500 GH/s and 490 GH/s and both temperatures are well within normal ranges and all chips are stable and hashing with no X's.  One of them has been running a few hours as if you look up a post or two you'll see where we came up with the newer smaller incremental frequency steps, and that is the one running at 490 GH/s up from the 237.5 clock which was in the 470-480 GH/s range, while the other has been running for 72 hours at 500 GH/s.  

Highest temperature reached by any miner is 44C, while averaging 40-43 C in use, so I would say replacing the thermal compound is unnecessary.

That being said, if you do decide to go ahead and upgrade/replace the thermal compound, do not use any compound with Silver in it as it is conductive, and make absolutely sure that whatever brand you decide to go with DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY - YOU WILL FRY YOUR ANTMINER!!!!!




I see Smiley Yes my current have same temperature, from some pictures I have seen of heatsinks removed I noticed very bad application of the paste. I don't expect too much from the assembly line.

Silly question but I must ask, outside of trial and error how are you coming up with the newer reg codes you posted above? Should I completely ignore the first page and use the recent posting?

I separated out the operating speed's into incremental steps and JakeTri calculated the appropriate Freq values and Timings.
newbie
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Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.

I have been running both of my Ant's OC'd to 500 GH/s and 490 GH/s and both temperatures are well within normal ranges and all chips are stable and hashing with no X's.  One of them has been running a few hours as if you look up a post or two you'll see where we came up with the newer smaller incremental frequency steps, and that is the one running at 490 GH/s up from the 237.5 clock which was in the 470-480 GH/s range, while the other has been running for 72 hours at 500 GH/s.  

Highest temperature reached by any miner is 44C, while averaging 40-43 C in use, so I would say replacing the thermal compound is unnecessary.

That being said, if you do decide to go ahead and upgrade/replace the thermal compound, do not use any compound with Silver in it as it is conductive, and make absolutely sure that whatever brand you decide to go with DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY - YOU WILL FRY YOUR ANTMINER!!!!!




I see Smiley Yes my current have same temperature, from some pictures I have seen of heatsinks removed I noticed very bad application of the paste. I don't expect too much from the assembly line.

Silly question but I must ask, outside of trial and error how are you coming up with the newer reg codes you posted above? Should I completely ignore the first page and use the recent posting?
newbie
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Hi Guys

I just got my antminer s3 and having big problems.

It's only mining at about 250ghs and gets around 75% hw error.

I am using a brand new Corsair CX500 and have also tried with my Corsair HX850.
I have changed the thermal paste on all the chips.
I have flashed it to latest firmware.
I have very stable internet connection.

Anyone have advice for me?

After 5min: http://i62.tinypic.com/2psln39.jpg
After 10min: http://i61.tinypic.com/28vaza.jpg
HW error: http://i58.tinypic.com/262qnmq.jpg
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.

I have been running both of my Ant's OC'd to 500 GH/s and 490 GH/s and both temperatures are well within normal ranges and all chips are stable and hashing with no X's.  One of them has been running a few hours as if you look up a post or two you'll see where we came up with the newer smaller incremental frequency steps, and that is the one running at 490 GH/s up from the 237.5 clock which was in the 470-480 GH/s range, while the other has been running for 72 hours at 500 GH/s.  

Highest temperature reached by any miner is 44C, while averaging 40-43 C in use, so I would say replacing the thermal compound is unnecessary.

That being said, if you do decide to go ahead and upgrade/replace the thermal compound, do not use any compound with Silver in it as it is conductive, and make absolutely sure that whatever brand you decide to go with DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY - YOU WILL FRY YOUR ANTMINER!!!!!


newbie
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Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.
newbie
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I was able to seperate the above frequencies into smaller incremental steps, but I have no idea how to calculate the "reg. value" or the "ideal delay" for them.  Anyone with a little more know-how than myself willing to help out?  I know a few other people in this thread were looking for something like this as well, and any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks!
Adjusting the S1 formula based on S3 ASIC spec I was able to get following register values (and timeout). Use the settings below at your own risk!

Clock_Freq      Register value    Timeout
(chip_freq)(freq_value)(timeout)
100078340
103.125100739
106.25080338
109.375110737
112.5088336
115.625120735
118.75090334
121.875130733
125098332
128.125140731
131.250A0330
134.375150730
137.50A8329
140.625160728
143.750B0328
146.875170727
1500B8327
153.125180726
156.250C0326
159.375190725
162.50C8325
165.6251A0724
168.750D0324
171.8751B0723
1750D8323
178.1251C0722
181.250E0322
184.3751D0722
187.50E8321
190.6251E0721
193.750F0321
196.8751F0720
200078220
206.25100619
212.5080219
218.75110618
225088218
231.25120617
237.5090217
243.75130616
250098216
256.25140616
262.50A0215
268.75150615
2750A8215
281.25160614
287.50B0214
293.75170614
3000B8213
306.25180613
312.50C0213
318.75190613
3250C8212
331.251A0612
337.50D0212
343.751B0612
3500D8211
356.251C0611
362.50E0211
368.751D0611
3750E8211
381.251E0610
387.50F0210
393.751F0610
4000F8210
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Clock Freq.(M)   Hash rate(G)      Reg.value      Ideal delay(ms)      Recommenddelay(ms)
 100                   6.30                    0783           42.6                    38
-106.25
-112.5
-118.75
 125                   7.88                    0983           34.0                    31
-131.25
-137.5
-143.75
 150                   9.45                    0b83           28.4                    26
-156.25
-162.5
-168.75
 175                  11.03                    0d83           24.3                    22
-181.25
-187.5
-193.75
 200                  12.60                    0782           21.3                    19
-206.25
-212.5
-218.75
 225                  14.18                    0882           18.9                    17
-231.25
-237.5
-243.75
 250                  15.75                    0982           17.0                    15
-256.25
-262.5
-268.75
 275                  17.33                    0a82           15.5                    14
-281.25
-287.5
-293.75
 300                  18.90                    0b82           14.2                    13
-306.25
-312.5
-318.75
 325                  20.48                    0c82           13.1                    12
-331.25
-337.5
-343.75
 350                  22.05                    0d82           12.2                    11
-356.25
-362.5
-368.75
 375                  23.63                    0e82           11.3                    10
-381.25
-387.5
-393.75
 400                  25.20                    08f2           10.6                    10

I was able to seperate the above frequencies into smaller incremental steps, but I have no idea how to calculate the "reg. value" or the "ideal delay" for them.  Anyone with a little more know-how than myself willing to help out?  I know a few other people in this thread were looking for something like this as well, and any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks!
v0n
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Both of my 1st batch S3's will overclock to 225 and beyond, at least for short time, but both hash slower at 225 and 250 than at 218.5. As in - both 5s and average GH/s figures are lower (barely reaching 400 at 225), whereas they will happily do stable throughput of 440 at 218.5.   
newbie
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Work Input timing
Clock Freq.(M)   Hash rate(G)   Reg.value   Ideal delay(ms)   Recommenddelay(ms)
 100                   6.30                    0783           42.6                    38
 125                   7.88                    0983           34.0                    31
 150                   9.45                    0b83           28.4                    26
 175                  11.03                    0d83           24.3                    22
 200                  12.60                    0782           21.3                    19
 225                  14.18                    0882           18.9                    17
 250                  15.75                    0982           17.0                    15
 275                  17.33                    0a82           15.5                    14
 300                  18.90                    0b82           14.2                    13
 325                  20.48                    0c82           13.1                    12
 350                  22.05                    0d82           12.2                    11
 375                  23.63                    0e82           11.3                    10
 400                  25.20                    08f2           10.6                    10

Has anyone successfully broken the above down into smaller incremental steps?  Preferably 1/4 of their current spacing?  Or even 1/6th?  Thanks!
hero member
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Which two of the four PCI-E connectors do you need to plug power into? Or does it not matter?

You can connect any of the two, one in each blade.
Its better and safe to have all the 4 cables connected to Ant S3.
I found improved stability when connected all the fours.
Make sure that you are not connecting a single blade from multiple PSUs.
Same time you can connect one PSU to one blade and Another PSU to the other blade
if you cannot have a single PSU which can power both the blades.
hero member
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Which two of the four PCI-E connectors do you need to plug power into? Or does it not matter?
The blades run lengthways, and you need to power each.  So one on the "left-side" and one on the "right-side", if you are looking at it from the front side with the ethernet connection.
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Does anyone have any information about the JDH1238B fan used on the S3? Specifically Air Flow CFM and Noise Level dbA.

I'm looking to replace them with something quieter if possible.

Thanks

they move 90-105 cfm.  the high end 30 a piece deltas move 210 cfm.  so if you buy them and turn down the rpm they will be quieter.  wait for link,


these can be found for less.


http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9321/fan-581/Delta_120_x_38mm_Ultra_High-Speed_PWM_Fan_-_21038_CFM_QFR1212GHE-PWM.html?tl=c365s935b113&id=mPpv8As6


they are 4 pin and will run slower then 2000 rpm and still move more air then stock.

most other solutions are meh.  but someone may find a better one for you.
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