Topic: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) - page 25. (Read 16420 times)
Well if all you want to do is mine ether I'd buy this but I don't. I think the sub par specs on this is so the Ether devs don't panic and fork. So not only has bitmain already increased the diff but will continue to exponentially increase once these actually hit customers hands. Might be smaller than most of our racks but we all know we could throw gpu's in a server box. Nothing about this looks asic to me, nothing about this says rush to order, nothing about this makes me jump at all. Some pro's to this will be panicked miners dump their gpu's for this or get out the game as returns didn't hold during q4/q1 surge, reducing costs on new and used gpus. I still hope there's a fork though, the community shouldn't be complacent by any means regarding Bitmain and continue punish them, their centralization practices, insider trading techniques like "pre-farming", and 51% attacks.
Is it true than Chinese miners start to sell used graphic cards after that news?
It's indeed true and its always been the way Bitmain operates. They call it a "testing" where they actually run the miners in the guise of quality testing but in reality a few days testing should be finne. But these guys, as we can see, take months testing before selling the used miners to unwitting customers. Don't buy it.
I ordered 4 acics, hope it'll come fast.
Is it true than Chinese miners start to sell used graphic cards after that news?
It's indeed true and its always been the way Bitmain operates. They call it a "testing" where they actually run the miners in the guise of quality testing but in reality a few days testing should be finne. But these guys, as we can see, take months testing before selling the used miners to unwitting customers. Don't buy it.
Is it true than Chinese miners start to sell used graphic cards after that news?
Bitmain trolling ETH community with selling old RX 570. 
Yeah this is not a big deal if you already own the GPUs, they are comparable to this "asic". Only thing that makes it stand out is the price, which is irrelevant if you already own the gpus. So....yeah this is a big ol' nothingburger IMO
Horrible ROI for a miner thats months away from release.
180 mh/s is barely 170$ a month. By the time they release it if prices dont go up that miner will be worthless. But yeah GPU mining is dead thats the cost of 2 rx 580
I'll take a 4.7 month ROI (before power cost) over anything available today. But yeah sad day indeed.
Yeah but delivery is ions away, no one knows what roi will be and with asics once its not profitable its dead. Gpus can be repurposed and sold
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
they wont be doing gaming GPUs for this so ROPs and TMUs are useless for miningBut I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
and AMD hasnt licensed them or sold any chips have they? plus per rma requirements assuming 4GB per GPU they would be 18 GPUs...
The GPU market is huge.
I think Bitmain can buy an GPU IP-Core and make own chips and PCB´s ... AMD RX550 is only an example, I know, more CU´s and a GDDR3 memory is better for mining
All is hypothetically ! But I would do it.
Does AMD or NVIDIA even sell IP-cores?
hell no gddr3 memory is NOT better for mining
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
Bitmain should start making gaming GPUs. Nvidia and AMD will go out of business But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
honestly I think they will come out with one in the next few months, they have tons of free money coming in from mining with private gear that we dont even know about. the x3 they are selling to suckers today was making $500 a unit back in oct nov dec , or more lol
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
Bitmain should start making gaming GPUs. Nvidia and AMD will go out of business But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
No.
That is the metal clamp holding the controller board in place, just like in other Antminer models.
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
they wont be doing gaming GPUs for this so ROPs and TMUs are useless for miningBut I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
and AMD hasnt licensed them or sold any chips have they? plus per rma requirements assuming 4GB per GPU they would be 18 GPUs...
The GPU market is huge.
I think Bitmain can buy an GPU IP-Core and make own chips and PCB´s ... AMD RX550 is only an example, I know, more CU´s and a GDDR3 memory is better for mining
All is hypothetically ! But I would do it.
Does AMD or NVIDIA even sell IP-cores?
What am I missing? This thing makes $3 - $4 a day and costs about as much as an S9. Why would I be interested in this? Am I missing something?
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
they wont be doing gaming GPUs for this so ROPs and TMUs are useless for miningBut I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
and AMD hasnt licensed them or sold any chips have they? plus per rma requirements assuming 4GB per GPU they would be 18 GPUs...
The GPU market is huge.
I think Bitmain can buy an GPU IP-Core and make own chips and PCB´s ... AMD RX550 is only an example, I know, more CU´s and a GDDR3 memory is better for mining
All is hypothetically ! But I would do it.
Does AMD or NVIDIA even sell IP-cores?
And whats the best is bitmain is making a shit load of money ask yourself this why do they want you to prepay months in advance so you can pay to build a asic for them to make money with for months than just as the difficulty sky rockets and profits go down they ship you your brand new (USED) miner
This.
Basically people are helping to fund their new gen ASICs which would eventually hurt existing mining equipments.
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
they wont be doing gaming GPUs for this so ROPs and TMUs are useless for miningBut I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
and AMD hasnt licensed them or sold any chips have they? plus per rma requirements assuming 4GB per GPU they would be 18 GPUs...
The GPU market is huge.
I think Bitmain can buy an GPU IP-Core and make own chips and PCB´s ... AMD RX550 is only an example, I know, more CU´s and a GDDR3 memory is better for mining
All is hypothetically ! But I would do it.
Does AMD or NVIDIA even sell IP-cores?
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
they wont be doing gaming GPUs for this so ROPs and TMUs are useless for miningBut I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
and AMD hasnt licensed them or sold any chips have they? plus per rma requirements assuming 4GB per GPU they would be 18 GPUs...
The GPU market is huge.
I think Bitmain can buy an GPU IP-Core and make own chips and PCB´s ... AMD RX550 is only an example, I know, more CU´s and a GDDR3 memory is better for mining
All is hypothetically ! But I would do it.
I think the E3 uses 16 x BM1680 Neuralprcessing Chips and one Asic or FPGA for the controlling.
But I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
they wont be doing gaming GPUs for this so ROPs and TMUs are useless for miningBut I hope it´s a multi-gpu-system with HDMI and a PCI-E-Plug, also usable for gaming and VR.
...could have more power compared to Vega-cards !
(12 x RX550) vs Vega:
Memory bandwith: Vega: 500.000 MB/s --- E3?: 1.380.000 (115.000x12)
Compute Units: Vega: 4096 --- E3?: 6144 (512x12)
TPU´s: Vega: 256 --- E3?: 384 (32x12)
ROP´s: Vega: 64 --- E3?: 192 (16x12)
and AMD hasnt licensed them or sold any chips have they? plus per dram requirements assuming 4GB per GPU they would be 18 GPUs...
it will be nice hilarious when people received it, look inside and find GPUs!
Power consumption/hashrate ratio, of this thing show that it is not an ASIC.
If You add the shipping cost, Power supply, and add the EU tax if You want to import it, we come around 1400 to 1500USD.
GPUs probably will have a lower price to 150-170USD (per pc), until July, so this thing not look so good.
plus coins could hark fork to change the algorithm If You add the shipping cost, Power supply, and add the EU tax if You want to import it, we come around 1400 to 1500USD.
GPUs probably will have a lower price to 150-170USD (per pc), until July, so this thing not look so good.
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