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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 281. (Read 531168 times)

legendary
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Mine for a Bit
You also have to ascribe an accurate decisional weight to the warranty from Bitmain. It's pretty much understood that they'll do as much as they can to deny all warranty claims, and if you read the not-so-fine print basically any feasible issue is not covered under the warranty. I would not consider a Bitmain warranty as a factor in any risk assessment. The few problems they will actually work with you on, once you factor in hassle, arguments, shipping to China and the associated revenue loss of extended downtime, it'd be cheaper to solve the problem with parts off eBay or something. If you happen to have a hashboard that fails without burning something (and therefore voiding warranty) might be a bit tricky, but what are the odds of that?

I noticed that each miner seems to have its own personality (frequency) that it runs most efficiently.  You just have to find it and run it.  The warranty is an issue that you are going to have to decide.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
You also have to ascribe an accurate decisional weight to the warranty from Bitmain. It's pretty much understood that they'll do as much as they can to deny all warranty claims, and if you read the not-so-fine print basically any feasible issue is not covered under the warranty. I would not consider a Bitmain warranty as a factor in any risk assessment. The few problems they will actually work with you on, once you factor in hassle, arguments, shipping to China and the associated revenue loss of extended downtime, it'd be cheaper to solve the problem with parts off eBay or something. If you happen to have a hashboard that fails without burning something (and therefore voiding warranty) might be a bit tricky, but what are the odds of that?
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 253
I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.

My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?

The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?

I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)

Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!

Thanks!!  Smiley








I have 5 of these and so far they are running perfect. I'm running them at 550 I don't want to void my warranty. After warranty expires I'll flash the 12.93 firmware and give it a shot.

I agree on waiting as there voiding warranty currently is on a 2k or so miner.  Wait the 90 day's it (hopefully) will be down where if something goes wrong it won't hurt as bad.  But still not sure worth doing when you look at added speed vs possible loss.

If everything goes perfect yes getting some extra hash would be nice.   But your risking a awful lot on your OC.   I think ROIing in 90 day's is going to not happen to much unless bought in Fiat and big BTC jump in value.   I know I need to run quite a bit longer then 90 day's so I think I will not be OC'ing S9's anytime soon.  Just not worth the risk for me and with being in summer it's not the best time for me to OC personally.

I agree summer won't be the best time, fall should be coming when the warranty runs out.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.

My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?

The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?

I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)

Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!

Thanks!!  Smiley






I have 5 of these and so far they are running perfect. I'm running them at 550 I don't want to void my warranty. After warranty expires I'll flash the 12.93 firmware and give it a shot.

I agree on waiting as there voiding warranty currently is on a 2k or so miner.  Wait the 90 day's it (hopefully) will be down where if something goes wrong it won't hurt as bad.  But still not sure worth doing when you look at added speed vs possible loss.

If everything goes perfect yes getting some extra hash would be nice.   But your risking a awful lot on your OC.   I think ROIing in 90 day's is going to not happen to much unless bought in Fiat and big BTC jump in value.   I know I need to run quite a bit longer then 90 day's so I think I will not be OC'ing S9's anytime soon.  Just not worth the risk for me and with being in summer it's not the best time for me to OC personally.
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 253
I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.

My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?

The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?

I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)

Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!

Thanks!!  Smiley






I have 5 of these and so far they are running perfect. I'm running them at 550 I don't want to void my warranty. After warranty expires I'll flash the 12.93 firmware and give it a shot.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
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I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.

My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?

The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?

I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)

Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!

Thanks!!  Smiley




legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
I really didn't like when they switched to the 135-chip version of S7 for exactly those reasons. However, the early builds aren't volt-hackable without external adjustable power supplies. Variable bucked string beats unregulated string any day - not necessarily in overall efficiency or total parts cost, but being able to drop core voltages extends the viable life quite a bit.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1006
Mine for a Bit
Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8  Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??

I would not be surprised.  The last few batches it seemed like they were working through lower grade ASIC chips.
Next could be the S9 v2.0.

From my experience with S7s, it was best to get the early batches.  My early batches once set to the optimal frequency are running and have been running without flaw ever since.  The newer models with less chips and higher frequency are more seceptible to running hotter at a lower Hashrate.
legendary
Activity: 3374
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
I figured him for a troll and/or jackass and have him ignored as well.
legendary
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Must you is that gratifying to come out here and say.



In reply to  you,  poor engineer. I got a last and "very intelligent" message from you.  You PM messages have now been blocked and posts still ignored. So do not see any more trouble with sending PM

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

screw you shitbrain.

legendary
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Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8  Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??

I would not be surprised.  The last few batches it seemed like they were working through lower grade ASIC chips.
Next could be the S9 v2.0.

I wonder if they will start a new batch 8 fast (under a week)  or that they will have a long delay (More then 3weeks).
legendary
Activity: 1593
Merit: 1004
Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8  Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??

I would not be surprised.  The last few batches it seemed like they were working through lower grade ASIC chips.
Next could be the S9 v2.0.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1006
Mine for a Bit
Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8  Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1006
Mine for a Bit
Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving?Huh

Well if you purchase batch 1 and batch 2  it is good for you.

If you waited until after the ½ ing it is bad for you.

Captain Obvious right?

Yes but I think bitmaintech has a plan here.  The plan is to keep the s-9 at a high price while they fill the data centers they have.  Once they have hashnest   setup to sell the s-9 's we will start to see the price drop.

I am holding for 2 weeks to make more orders.  I think there is a stabilization process that needs to occur.  It has not settled in yet.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving?Huh

Well if you purchase batch 1 and batch 2  it is good for you.

If you waited until after the ½ ing it is bad for you.

Captain Obvious right?

Yes but I think bitmaintech has a plan here.  The plan is to keep the s-9 at a high price while they fill the data centers they have.  Once they have hashnest   setup to sell the s-9 's we will start to see the price drop.
sr. member
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Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving?Huh

if people stopped buying the damn things the price would be lowered. they r gonna tap every single users pocket until they cant get anymore sales then they will start lowering the price. until then they will keep the prices high because who else is gonna compete with them?? i dont see ne other competition when it comes to public miner sales....do you?
legendary
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Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving?Huh


We are happy to announce the long-awaited release of the Antminer S9. It’s the world’s first commercially available bitcoin miner based on a 16nm process chip and, delivering 0.1J/GHs*, it is currently the most efficient bitcoin miner in existence.
 
If you can not afford it, do not buy it.



newbie
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Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving?Huh

GREED GREED AND MORE GREED. They know they can get away with it because they have no competition as of this post.

 
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Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving?Huh
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