Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 281.

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Quote from: wmabern on July 12, 2016, 03:45:39 PM

I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.

My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?

The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?

I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)

Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!

Thanks!!

I have 5 of these and so far they are running perfect. I'm running them at 550 I don't want to void my warranty. After warranty expires I'll flash the 12.93 firmware and give it a shot.

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I have an option to get a S9-B6, 11.85TH for a pretty decent price from someone I know.

My question is are these 2nd class chips that couldn't make the cut at 12.9TH or something else?

The batch 6 is spec'd at 550Mhz vs. the batch 3 and 7 @ 600Mhz. Is this because the batch 6 chips can't handle that frequency?

I would probably try to run it at least 587Mhz, which is what I am running my S9 batch 3 at.
(I know that would void the warranty on the batch 6, so I would wait till it ran out.)

Any thoughts appreciated. Especially from anyone who has the batch 6!

Thanks!!

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I really didn't like when they switched to the 135-chip version of S7 for exactly those reasons. However, the early builds aren't volt-hackable without external adjustable power supplies. Variable bucked string beats unregulated string any day - not necessarily in overall efficiency or total parts cost, but being able to drop core voltages extends the viable life quite a bit.

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Quote from: Swimmer63 on July 12, 2016, 11:49:26 AM

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Quote from: HagssFIN on July 12, 2016, 10:49:00 AM

Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8 Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??

I would not be surprised. The last few batches it seemed like they were working through lower grade ASIC chips.
Next could be the S9 v2.0.

From my experience with S7s, it was best to get the early batches. My early batches once set to the optimal frequency are running and have been running without flaw ever since. The newer models with less chips and higher frequency are more seceptible to running hotter at a lower Hashrate.

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I figured him for a troll and/or jackass and have him ignored as well.

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Must you is that gratifying to come out here and say.

In reply to you, poor engineer. I got a last and "very intelligent" message from you. You PM messages have now been blocked and posts still ignored. So do not see any more trouble with sending PM

Quote from: steve1965! on July 12, 2016, 10:37:52 AM

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

screw you shitbrain.

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Quote from: Swimmer63 on July 12, 2016, 11:49:26 AM

Quote from: AriesIV10 on July 12, 2016, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 12, 2016, 10:49:00 AM

Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8 Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??

I would not be surprised. The last few batches it seemed like they were working through lower grade ASIC chips.
Next could be the S9 v2.0.

I wonder if they will start a new batch 8 fast (under a week) or that they will have a long delay (More then 3weeks).

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Quote from: AriesIV10 on July 12, 2016, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 12, 2016, 10:49:00 AM

Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8 Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??

I would not be surprised. The last few batches it seemed like they were working through lower grade ASIC chips.
Next could be the S9 v2.0.

AriesIV10

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Quote from: HagssFIN on July 12, 2016, 10:49:00 AM

Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8 Tongue

Very Interesting...Maybe a different Price, Maybe a different Hashrate??

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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

Batch 6 and batch 7 are sold out, I'm eager to see what is the price for the batch 8 Tongue

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 12, 2016, 07:35:57 AM

Quote from: Contact2015 on July 12, 2016, 05:17:43 AM

Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving? Huh

Well if you purchase batch 1 and batch 2 it is good for you.

If you waited until after the ½ ing it is bad for you.

Captain Obvious right?

Yes but I think bitmaintech has a plan here. The plan is to keep the s-9 at a high price while they fill the data centers they have. Once they have hashnest setup to sell the s-9 's we will start to see the price drop.

I am holding for 2 weeks to make more orders. I think there is a stabilization process that needs to occur. It has not settled in yet.

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Quote from: Contact2015 on July 12, 2016, 05:17:43 AM

Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving? Huh

Well if you purchase batch 1 and batch 2 it is good for you.

If you waited until after the ½ ing it is bad for you.

Captain Obvious right?

Yes but I think bitmaintech has a plan here. The plan is to keep the s-9 at a high price while they fill the data centers they have. Once they have hashnest setup to sell the s-9 's we will start to see the price drop.

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Quote from: Contact2015 on July 12, 2016, 05:17:43 AM

Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving? Huh

if people stopped buying the damn things the price would be lowered. they r gonna tap every single users pocket until they cant get anymore sales then they will start lowering the price. until then they will keep the prices high because who else is gonna compete with them?? i dont see ne other competition when it comes to public miner sales....do you?

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Quote from: Contact2015 on July 12, 2016, 05:17:43 AM

Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving? Huh

Quote from: BITMAIN on May 31, 2016, 06:35:39 AM

We are happy to announce the long-awaited release of the Antminer S9. It’s the world’s first commercially available bitcoin miner based on a 16nm process chip and, delivering 0.1J/GHs*, it is currently the most efficient bitcoin miner in existence.

If you can not afford it, do not buy it.

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Quote from: Contact2015 on July 12, 2016, 05:17:43 AM

Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving? Huh

GREED GREED AND MORE GREED. They know they can get away with it because they have no competition as of this post.

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Can anybody explain the fact that Bitmain still holds on to the same price as before the halving? Huh

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Quote from: QuintLeo on July 12, 2016, 01:01:56 AM

20 amp NEMA 5 sockets are NOT standard in U.S. homes and most businesses, though they're more frequently found in shop/industrial type business locations.

You will find exceptions SOMETIMES in newer homes or homes that have upgraded wiring, used mostly for medium-sized window A/C units and washers, or sometimes in garages/shop areas.

You'll also find occasional NEMA 6 220v series sockets, usually intended for use with electric driers, electric hot water heaters, or large (most 25,000 BTU and up) window A/C units.

The STANDARD is a NEMA 5-15 dual socket for almost ALL outlets in the large marjority of US homes.

Most of the power connectors I've seen in the pair of hospitals I've been in this year were GFI NEMA 5-20.

This is not a "hospital grade" connector as such, GFI is specified for any location that wetness or other higher risk of shock hazards can be found, though that "higher risk" issue is why pretty much all line-powered medical equipment specifies connection to a GCI-equipped circuit and therefore that type of outlet is the norm in most areas of a hospital.

Must you really.......

Hospital-Grade Requirements in North America

North American NEMA 5-15 gray, black, and clear plugs.
Hospital-Grade Standards Hospital-grade plugs, sockets, and cable mount connectors are subject to special requirements contained in the following standards: Medical equipment standards—UL 60601-1 and CAN/CSA C22.2 no. 21; Power supply cord standards— UL 817 and CAN/CSA C22.2 no. 21; and Attachment plug and receptacle standards—UL 498 and CAN/CSA C22.2 no. 42. The hospital-grade plug diameter conforms to NEMA WD-6 and UL 817 standards: (1) the blades must be solid instead of folded brass, (2) the blades are usually nickel-plated, (3) the plug includes an internal cable retention device or strain relief to prevent any stress to the plug’s internal connections and (4) NEMA plug and receptacle are marked “Hospital-grade” and with a green dot

Which mine are hospital grade "Marked" with the green dot right out of the package. anything else you want to say.

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20 amp NEMA 5 sockets are NOT standard in U.S. homes and most businesses, though they're more frequently found in shop/industrial type business locations.

You will find exceptions SOMETIMES in newer homes or homes that have upgraded wiring, used mostly for medium-sized window A/C units and washers, or sometimes in garages/shop areas.

You'll also find occasional NEMA 6 220v series sockets, usually intended for use with electric driers, electric hot water heaters, or large (most 25,000 BTU and up) window A/C units.

The STANDARD is a NEMA 5-15 dual socket for almost ALL outlets in the large marjority of US homes.

Most of the power connectors I've seen in the pair of hospitals I've been in this year were GFI NEMA 5-20.

This is not a "hospital grade" connector as such, GFI is specified for any location that wetness or other higher risk of shock hazards can be found, though that "higher risk" issue is why pretty much all line-powered medical equipment specifies connection to a GCI-equipped circuit and therefore that type of outlet is the norm in most areas of a hospital.

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Ooh La La, C'est Zoom!

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Quote from: Tupsu on July 11, 2016, 05:11:06 AM

But not 100%. It is technically impossible.

you cannot stop difficult

Quote from: BITMAIN

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difficult is inconceivable

set up us all your coin

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Quote from: bbOOmm on July 10, 2016, 09:52:39 PM

Quote from: elokk on July 10, 2016, 08:44:05 AM

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As far as all the ROI talk goes... if you can't roi then great do not buy a miner. If you want to support the network, then maybe you should consider buying a miner. Some of us spend money to run a full node which does not return any money. It is not always about "getting rich"

Ahhhh, If I'm not mistaken, Running a -Full Node- is running the the full bitcoin wallet program 24/7 that is open for both incoming and outgoing connections to keep the blockchain decentralized and transactions recorded.

Mining - using miners- if for the generation of NEW BITCOINS thus being paid for your serviced to help create bitcoins. Running miners is NOT needed to support or keep the blockchain alive.

That's my understanding, but I may be wrong.

Bitcoin is a proof of work blockchain, so yes the network needs miners

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